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nick
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

96 D1 stock rotors with bendix metalic pads. I try to stop hard(standing on brake pedal with both feet),this thing doesn't even lock up the tires.ABS works ,comes on on slick surfaces.Any ideas? Takes just too long to stop,could be a problem in an emergency situation. What if anything is wrong ,and if so what can be done to make it stop better?
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nick:
The whole idea behind ABS brakes is to keep the tires from locking up.

Your brakes are probably working as intended.

Slow down.
 

jay caragay (Jcaragay)
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ABS certainly can be unnerving - especially if you're used to non-ABS brakes.

I've had the D1 since 1995 and while I've had experiences when I would have preferred the brakes work a little "better", overall, they've performed admirably.

Slow down, anticipate and start braking earlier.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The laws of physics apply to Land Rovers too, unfortunately. Stopping distances increase in slick conditions, ABS or not. You need to anticipate that and drive accordingly.

If on the other hand the ABS is kicking in when you would not expect it to such as on dry pavement, you probably have a bad, loose or dirty sensor. That's a pretty common problem, especially with the D1's. Search the archives for solutions.
 

andythoma
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a 95 D1, my abs one day desided not to work. The pump started to pulse on dry pavement so fast that I lost all braking power. I used the ebrake to come to a stop. I disabled the abs, (pulled the fuses) and it worked fine. I did have signs that something was wrong, my antilock light in the dash kep flashing on and off. I couldn't get any error codes. When they failed you could here the pump going wild. I later found out two sensors were bad, opposite front and rear. If you suspect you are having brake trouble, try "turning off the ABS" and see if you braking problem goes anyway.
Andy
95 d1
 

Jim
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think I've also experienced Nick's problem. 94 D1, 100K, at slow-ish speeds (less than 35mph) every now and then it'll just be sluggish in stopping. two-footed braking results in slow, lazy braking and a pronounced whiff of brake pad. I don't feel the ABS engaging (improperly) but its like there's something "interfering" with brake action.

Aside from just driving slower, any advice?
 

andythoma
Posted on Friday, December 27, 2002 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thats kind of what mine did. Try disconneced the abs. Also check the archives like axel said and look for abs problems,one will have a link to a great site for diagonising abs problems. You might also want to pull the pads, maybe they are glazed. Could try sanding them and cleaning off the rotor and pads with brake cleaner.
Andy
95d1
 

nick
Posted on Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think I was misunderstood,what I meant to say is that this thing takes just too long to stop on dry pavement,it almost feels like the master cylinder does not apply enough pressure onto the tiny little pads they put on these heavy trucks.
I am not sure on the life span of the rotors but they have 65000 miles on them and the thickness is correct never been resurfaced could resurfacing help? By the way the ABS works fine in slippery conditions it is just that I have driven cars with ABS and in a hard stopping situation on dry pavement and when the tires feel like they are about to lock up(slight squeal)the ABS will control it,mine does not get there just keeps on rolling to a slow unsafe stop. Master cylinder problem maybe?

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