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DaveB
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 12:17 pm: | 
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I have an adventure rack on my D1 and was looking for a good weather resistant storage bag to safely square away stuff on long trips. I've seen Yakima makes a bag (Atlantic-British sell them and most other Yakima dealers), but I was wondering if any knows of any other alternatives and where to source them.
Thanks,
Dave |
bryan
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 12:27 pm: |
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I saw a soft sided roof bag at WalMart a week or two ago for around $40. I'm pretty sure it's weather proof. I passed on it and bought a hitch mounted cargo carrier instead. The bag does look like it folds up nice and would store easily in the rear compartments, you never know when you'll need some extra storage capacity. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 12:30 pm: |
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ever consider some pelican cases from EE?
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/pelican/
http://www.expeditionexchange.com/pelican/indexpics.htm |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 12:44 pm: |
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Pelican is the way to go. If you want a "bag" you pretty much have to go with a marine-style dry bag. Pelican is so much easier. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 03:43 pm: |
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How about the Rubbermaid containers? |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 03:47 pm: |
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you get what you pay for. i have some of the cheap ass containers that i store tools, tents, supplies, etc. in, but i would not trust them up top in the pouring rain. they stay in the back. i have some dry bags in case i want something to stay dry or i just keep it in the truck. |
Tom P.
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 03:56 pm: |
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Cabelas has a really nice roof top bag. HD PVC coated fabric, 3-sided zipper top under a buckle down top cover (three straps), with four 2-inch wide web straps to secure it to the rack. Not a sissy bag and it holds up to real use, even without flooring on the rack. You can fit two of these in the adventure basket.
I drove from MA to the MAR a couple years ago through Hurricane Floyd (?), and everything was bone dry upon arrival.
Rob - thenice thing about this bag is that it is flexible. This helps when your needs change during the course of a trip. Aside from that, Pelicans are nice boxes.
Tom P.
96 Disco |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 05:56 pm: |
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yeah..
i hear you tom.
i do like garrett and have a couple nice dry bags too...
i got a 57 lt clear drybag from REI 2 weeks ago, but i cant find them on there site anymore. |
DaveB
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 06:15 pm: |
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Thanks for the comments. I'll check REI for ideas, there's an REI store near by on my route home from work.
Dave |
Mike D1
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 07:27 pm: |
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I have four of the Cabela's bags. Two roll top and two zip duffels with the rain flap. Both are rain proof and work great. The duffels hold about four times more than the largest Pelican case. |
p m
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 07:52 pm: |
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I used the biggest roof rack bag I could find - can't remember whether it was in KMart or any off-road store - just to get it torn to pieces while wheeling in the woods.
get pelican cases. I don't like the idea of so much cross-sectional area on the roof rack, but I guess there's not much I can do about it.
Two or three 1650s will hold all your stuff and fit on the Adventure rack.
peter |
DaveB
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 07:52 pm: |
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I'm looking for something that is soft and will squash. Want a bag to hold the overflow and large items, thus a pelican case isn't really the ticket. A Cabela bag sounds like the item. Where can they be found?
Thanks,
Dave |
Kyle
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 07:56 pm: |
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I have traveled with bags and with pelicans. The bags ARENT the way to go. The wind and the elements eventually win over the bags and they let you down. The pelicans are really the best way to travel.....
Kyle |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 11:02 pm: |
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I've used the Seal Line Boundry 115 drybag/pack from REI for almost 3 years now and never had anything get wet in it. at almost 7000 cu. in. (4 cu. ft /32 gallons) and only $70, it's hard to beat. Check it out at:
http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=8000&prrfnbr=4290401
These are top-loading drybags that are not convenient for loading/unloading. This can be made eaiser by lining it with a sleeping pad, which holds the bag in the expanded shape and further protects the inside contents. They have decent carry straps that work pretty well for a makeshift backpack. They are not solid or locking like the $160 5400 cu.in. Pelican 1650's. However, they provide a lot more dry storage for a lot less money.
Mine has been through blizzards and downpours atop my Disco at 80 mph and to Everest basecamp & back. It it an excellent travel duffel that carries quite well and can easily thrown/kicked/rolled as well. Because it is non-flashy, green and top-loading, it is easy to seal and secure closed with tie-wraps and duct tape. This makes it very unattractive (I deliberately don't wash the outside of it) to 3rd world baggage-handlers who love to "inspect" or expropriate cool high-tech cases and designer trekking duffels.
In a pinch, It will also double as a half bivvy sack, water barrel, 1 person soaking tub, washable trash can or punching bag! |
bryan
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 11:53 pm: |
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check this bag out http://www.familyonboard.com/Kanga_car_top_roof_pouch.html |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:43 am: |
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also check out the new sierra trading post that just came out. page 56 if you get it. some nice bags in there at great prices. |
Hank Shank (Disco_Tex)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:47 am: |
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Daveb,
They can be found at http://www.cabelas.com/
Hank |
Kyle
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:49 am: |
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LOL , Well , I put in my two cents. The bags arent going to live atop the Disco. The wind will find any little fault in there and exploit it to the fullest.... You just havnt lived unitl all your crap is getting ejected out onto the interstate in BFE Kansass.... 
Kyle |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:53 am: |
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but if you are lucky it will all land on the white or yellow line. happened to us one in england. we got lucky. i just use the bags, since i had already had them for paddling, etc. i am sure the boxes will last longer and all that.......guess i am just waiting til i am forced to buy them. my day will come. |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 11:54 am: |
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>"How about the Rubbermaid containers?"
Ford pickup = rubbermaid in the bed
Land Rover = Pelican case on the roof or in the cargo hold
The main reason I don't like bags (other than the fact that they weather away to nothing) is that they are a real PIA to get into to whereas you just pop the latches on a Pelican. |
John Lee
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:35 pm: |
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Rubbermaid? Save the Tupperware for the kitchen.
Bags? Bags are for holding groceries.
Pelicans are the way to go. Yes, they're expensive. But they're covered by a lifetime warranty against virtually anything so they're cheaper in the long run. If you buy a Pelican case, you're basically covered for life. If a bag cuts or tears, will the bag company cover it by sending you a new one? Bags will also not protect the contents the way a Pelican case will. Besides, Pelicans on the roof rack look a heck of a lot better than some giant condoms on the roof rack. Save money by doing it right the first time around. |
jmon
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:37 pm: |
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also check out that expedition base camp duffles by north face..super bomber..only thing that really is from them now days..also patagonia makes a bag called the black hole..another bomber bag..both of these bags are made with pvc material and quadruple reinforced in all the right areas..it would be hard to stick a knife through these bags!...i have used mine for many years on top of cars filled with climbing and mountaineering gear...they now have become my baja bags and they ride on top of the car..work great in the elements..thats what they are designed for... |
chris browne
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:39 pm: |
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I agree with Cabelas...I have a hitch hauler from them with bag. We was rain on for 400 miles......solid on interstate. A stroller on the outside was soaked through everything on the inside dry
And I got 18mpg.....try that with a roof rack |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:44 pm: |
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hehehe...John, I think you and I are in our own world. Bringing lots of expensive electronic gear on the next big trip - glad it'll be securely locked up in an airtight Pelican 1550. |
John Lee
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 12:56 pm: |
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Obviously we are. Us and Kyle. Something about white Land Rover owners. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:38 pm: |
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these drybags are very logical. the fact that it's not cool and only cost 1/3 the amount of a pelican can't be argued.
and yes if you buy from rei they will take back just about anything... but it's highly unlikely you would put a whole in this bag under normal condition.
if you did , just get a patch and bardge cement and you are on your way...
each case has there place.
i do not reccomend those cheap ass roof bags though..
i am talking the sealine drybags
rd |
chrisvonc
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:53 pm: |
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We have burned through 2 "high quality" roof bags. Both failed on their maiden runs on the roof rack. Just about every thing we take with us now goes into the army of Pelicans we bought (through the fine folks at EE BTW).
Sure, you can save a lot more and buy those bags but how much have you really saved when you get to the camp site in the middle of the night and your sleeping bags and what not are soaked through? But thank goodness you saved those extra dollars.
Chris |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:55 pm: |
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sealine are nice. another good maker is ortlieb. they are not "bags" but duffels. they have waterproof zippers and can be carried like packs. pretty beefy.
not knocking the pelicans. just don't have as much of a use for them. bags i can use for travel, camping, paddling, etc. and they are compact when empty and store easily.
like rob said......not the stupid ass roof bags. they suck. i have yet to see a 'good' one. a good dry bag will last. i have a sealine that is over 10 years old. have drug it in and out of campsites and canoes......still good to go. |
al hang
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 05:10 pm: |
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yes, those drybags are great. I first noticed those on a rafting trip years ago, they'll take any abuse you can throw at them. Pelicans are cool too, I plan to buy both for my roof rack. |
Phil
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:26 pm: |
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http://www.discoweb.org/andynix/MVC-003X.jpg
http://www.discoweb.org/andynix/MVC-004X.jpg |
Kyle
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:48 pm: |
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A patch ? So the high quality bag itself came apart but the magic patch will hold ? Apparently you boys dont know what abuse is.... Now , as Thumper said , if you have some pelicans surrounding your bags up there protecting them you are probably good to go...
Kyle |
p m
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 09:55 pm: |
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LOL,
our bunch of Pelicans just came back from American Samoa... What did you say about lifetime warranty, John? They kinda don't look like they used to
still, they hold up together all right. Skipping the relative rare cases of bags snagged on highway overpasses like on the photos Phil mentioned, I am yet to see a bag that survives combing with a 2" pine tree branch. Many bags are waterproof, we use stuff like Rich Lee mentioned to jump from a ship into a lil' whaler, and they are tough, but not _that_ tough.
peter |
charles p.
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:10 pm: |
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I agree Pelicans are ideal, and just what Rovers deserve. But what if it is just a smart idea away?
Rubbermaid's ActionPackers are, I think, the most rugged container from them.(not even close to Pelican, of course) But if you really want to save some money just for a durable box (not under rover's wheel, ), I think they are just fine for the price. Basically we just need to put in some gaskets around the opening then we are able to make them seamless watertight.
Just my .02 for the poor.
charles |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 10:50 pm: |
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kyle, not came apart...
it someone jabbed a knife into it. just slap a patch on it.
you dont think i can damage a pelican?
open it up and run over the lid. pelican is done
you can run over the drybag all day.
drybag is especially useful when you can just put your pack in it and trow it on the roof.
again, read who was the first to suggestthe pelicans
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my96disco (Trevorh)
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 12:01 pm: |
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Charles,
What type of Gasket do you use for the ActionPackers? Enquiring minds would like to know.
Thanks
Trevor |
John
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 04:44 pm: |
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where do you get the 'dry bags' you guys are talking about. Is there a website?
Thanks in advance |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 05:23 pm: |
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http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/CategoryDisplay?cgmenbr=8000&cgrfnbr=4501503&seq=1&sort=1 |
GreenPeace
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 08:15 pm: |
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Fucking REI... |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:10 pm: |
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Like I said, the Pelicans are the best of the hard cases. You just have to pay more for them.
Also, unless you are REALLY strong, it's hard to roll up a bunch of pelican cases and store them in a compact space when not needed. I also stand by my claim of the SealLine bag staying dry in a downpour at 60-80 mph for 5 hours. They can also withstand an underwater trip down Crystal rapid in the Grand Canyon.
My green bag did get "abraided" between a crazed Yak and rock wall in Nepal, but the duct tape patch held and did not leak for at least a year until I finally repaired it with a Sevelyor inflatable kayak patch.
BTW, For those who are into "disaster tech", Pelican makes several affordable flashlights that are ANSI and NFPA approved to work safely in an explosive atmosphere. Theoretically, if you switch on an "ordinary" flashlight (including Maglites) in the presence of a gas leak, a small spark can occur at the switch contacts and cause a big bang. Armed with that knowledge, you should have a Pelican light by your bedside if you live in earthquake country and have gas heating.
Check out the 'Heads Up' headlamp at EE for only $25. |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:30 pm: |
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Oh, and another thing.
Being as all my money goes to my kids education and mortgage, I am a Cheap Bastard when it comes to my Rover stuff. Hence, my rooftop cases are the 33 and 24 gallon Rubbermaid Action Packers. I can fit 6 of the larger ones (trunk style, with hinged lids) on my wilderness rack and still have room for 2 bikes and the chainsaw. They are no Pelicans, but nothing got wet in them on my way home from a major Sierra blizzard last month (5 hr. drive at 60-80 mph ).
We schlepped all our medical supplies to Everest basecamp and back to Kunde hospital (where they were donated) in the 24 gallon Action Packers. We secured the latches with tie-wraps and sealed the lids with duct tape and everything was dry undisturbed and undamaged (3 to 9 days in rain/snow, 50 mph winds, 2mph Yaks). Again, they were not as elegant or as sturdy as the Pelican cases, but they were "bomb-proof" enough and would be a big, inexpensive improvement over what Andy Nix was using.
Until you can afford the Pelicans, check em out.
Rich "Medical McGuyver" Lee |
Zinhead
| | Posted on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:40 pm: |
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Try this:
http://www.sierratradingpost.com/product.asp?base%5Fno=81120&str%5Fbase%5Fno=81120%2C82133%2C82134%2C&header%5Ftitle=Search+by+Vendors&page%5Fname=search%2Fvendor%5Fresults%2Easp&search%5Ftype=15262&size1=&size2=&gender=1%2C9%2C+2%2C9%2C+3%2C4%2C+0&ShowImages=yes&sq=0&cont=1&intPgNo=1&special%5Ftype=&mscssid=TU481054U7SR2G090G0KN0SFN9386E52
They occasionally carry other dry bags at good prices. |
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