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trekker110
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 01:16 am: | 
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Why is it that in the USA you can only get the new Disco in automatic? Where are the 5-speeds? I guess I'll have to look for a used Disco. Thinking optimistically, it'll be easier on the pocket anyways. |
Ron
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 01:37 am: |
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"Thinking optimistically, it'll be easier on the pocket anyways."
You are deluding yourself.
How was it put best:
"An R380 is only good for turning finely machined parts into scrap"
I like collecting garbage so I have one but the auto is 10x more reliable.
Ron |
Russell Smith (Rusty)
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 01:58 am: |
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R_U_B_B_I_S_H !!!!!! |
JEEPETR
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 08:11 am: |
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Hey Trekker,
I hear you. I can't believe that Land Rover gave up offering a manual transmission in 1997 either. Personally, I hate automatics, and won't drive one. Unless you get lucky, your search for a 5-speed Discovery in good condition and the color you want will be a long and difficult one. My Search lasted about eight months, but I finally found a nice low mileage truck. Keep an eye out for the serial numbers on the transfer case, and try to find a truck with an �F� stamped on the case. These boxes were modified with the cross drilled main gear to increase oiling to the transmission main shaft, and hopefully eliminate the dreaded spline wear issue. Also test for excessive spline wear by applying the parking brake, and letting the clutch out slowly in first gear till you take up the slack, then put it in reverse and slowly let out the clutch again till you take up the slack again. Was it smooth and quiet, or did you hear a pronounced �Clunk�. If you hears a pronounced clunk, move on to another truck, repairing this issue will cost you several thousand dollars (at least if you have a shop do it). If there is not Clunk, main shaft wear is not likely accelerated to a point of no return, and you may consider fitting the gear to the transfer case if the truck is the one you want. It really seems to be a crap shoot (like many other things with Land Rovers), with some trucks going well over a 100,000 miles before wear issues, and others not making it 50,000.
As for the Manual transmission itself, Ron is right to a degree, the Gearboxes aren�t as strong as they should be. Syncros tend to live a short life, and the bearings and gears are a tad undersized for the application. Driven well, and smartly (With a good lubricant like Redline�s MTL) they will last a good while, but the ZF auto itself generally has a longer lifespan.
If you are like me and hate automatics, search hard and smart and you can be well rewarded. Good Luck�.
~Scott T.
�95 D-90 (JEEPETR)
�96 Discovery (5-Speed) |
Joey Chong (Trekker110)
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 02:08 pm: |
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I've been driving manual my whole life. I can't imagine myself driving an automatic. If you can purchase a 5-speed anywhere else in the world you should be able to purchase one in the US. This goes the same as with many products, there is always the international version of the product and then an US version. Somehow I feel we tend to get the raw end of the deal. Example: Car models in the USA tend to be less powerful than their international counterparts. Take the M3 for example.
Going off on the tangent here: It goes the same with the US being the only country left still using standard units. Even the UK switched over to metric units.
Anyways...continuing on with my search... |
Norm
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 03:26 pm: |
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I have a spare R380 for sale with @52K miles. 2nd and 3rd synchros are weak due to my wife's constant "speed shifting," but otherwise seems sound (does not jump out of gear).
Don't listen to Ron, he drives around with his hand firmly planted on his wimpy "E-brake lever" because he doesn't have a good stout "joy stick" to grab ahold of like us virile manual tranny drivers!!!
Manuaul trannys -- more smiles per mile, even (or especially!!!) if your woman is hard on the equipment!!!
---Norm |
Simon E. Arenas (Simon)
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 04:48 pm: |
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I have 2 here in miami and they are great trucks..
Simon |
Brad Bradford (Brad)
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 05:08 pm: |
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I have had 2 5-speeds and I wouldn't trade them for anything. I haven't had any problems except replacing the clutch after 115,000 miles. They are damn good trucks. |
Hank (Disco_Tex)
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 05:12 pm: |
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Gabe Rodreguez has one for sale in Austin.
Try contacting him. |
JEspelien (Superj)
| | Posted on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 10:16 pm: |
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Ron while I appreciate you repeating part of my post from the pirate board, you emasculated it! The manual transmission section in its entirety read "Back it up with a NV4500, a Richmond 6 speed, or a ZF 5 or 6 speed, Advance can help you adapt any of these to a lt230 with there own or a Mark's kit/shaft. A 380 is useful only as a method for converting precision parts into low grade scrap, unless you own a boat and need to stay in one place while you're fishing." |
Ron
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 12:31 am: |
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There we go.
Thats what I was looking to quote.
My personal opinion is somewhat less artfull:
"they are crap"
Ron |
Slider
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 12:43 pm: |
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Reverse to the right and down...Is:
380?
or
230? |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2002 - 01:01 pm: |
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Right and down is a 380, left and up is a 77, 230 is a transfercase....
-L |
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