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Marc
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 03:46 pm: | 
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I don't want to step on Nathan and Dee's toes, but a little competition is good for the consumer. I have ordered from Mohammed at www.Europartsltd.com in the past and have found his prices to be comparable to www.Discountrovers.com (a little more on some items, a little less on others - never more than a buck or two difference either way).
Customer service has, in my experience, always been exceptional and he seems very forthright.
Anyway, I have just ordered some more parts, and he informed me that because I was on Discoweb he would give me free shipping. I thought I would pass this on to you guys.
I know Nathan has a great rep on this board, and I hope I don't piss him off, but options are always nice to have.
-Marc |
Kyle
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 04:13 pm: |
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Options are nice , BUT , some are rover enthusiasts , some arent. Ask You guy there for some technical assistance with your purchase and see what ya get.... Just a thought...
Kyle |
Marc
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 04:31 pm: |
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It is true that Nathan know his stuff and is willing to share his expertise - haven't had occassion to pick Mohammed's brain yet, though he does have a guy named Steve working for him that seems fairly well versed.
BTW, I really am not trying to mess with Nathan - I know he has a sterling reputation here and by all accounts it is well deserved. Just sharing my experience with what may well turn out to be another good vendor. God knows it is nice to find reasonably priced parts. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 05:13 pm: |
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i like it when mohammed's 5 year old son answers the phone and then doesnt know what to say.
rd |
Ron L
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 05:31 pm: |
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ROFL |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 05:51 pm: |
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marc, what is his turn around time on orders?
mike w |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 06:10 pm: |
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rob i think that was your weekly chat line you called. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 07:02 pm: |
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Marc,
Does the free shipping include a 110Lb ARB bumper or 80 Lbs worth of Shocks and Springs also Roof Rack's those Adventure Roof Racks are really cheep to ship.
Sounds like he might be bump up the prices of popular items by 2 to 3 % to cover free shipping to Dweb Customers. |
Marc
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 07:56 pm: |
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Rob - I have never talked to his son, though it sounds like fun
MK - I have ordered from him twice before. One time I got everything in short order (4-5 days) the next I ordered some out-of-stock items (plastic door pockets, oil fill cap) and some in-stock items. He sent the in-stock stuff right away, and the out-of-stock stuff took about 10 days, but he did not charge me for the second delivery. I also returned some of that second order, no questions asked.
Anon - I can't say if he is going to do that or not, but since prices for most common items are posted on his page, it might be a hard sell.
finally, guys, I am not here to promote one vendor or another - just letting you in on what I have found to be a good deal. Make your own decision. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 08:02 pm: |
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Marc - Thanks for sharing. We always need to hear about new vendors. If we can't talk vendors on a Rover BBS, then where can we?
Tom |
Neal Glessner (Nealg)
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 10:55 pm: |
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I agree with Marc. The critics should chill out. I found this tid-bit useful. Why discourage others from trying to inform us. |
jmon
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2002 - 11:20 pm: |
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thanks marc..i buy from nathan and many other vendors..i can use all the vendor information thats out there..especially when there are substantial savings...thanks again |
Childish loser
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:46 am: |
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My Vendor can beat up your Vendor!! nah-nah |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 08:25 am: |
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Last I heard from Europarts was when Mohammed shafted a Club after he contracted to pay them for advertising in their newsletter. They printed his ads and even had him attend an event. They he refused to pay.
Less that $100 was involved but it reflects adversely on the character of the person and his company.
perhaps you can consider this when considering who you buy parts from |
Marc
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 08:54 am: |
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Anon,
Maybe if we knew who you were we could weigh your reputation and give your "information" whatever credibility it was due.
Again, I don't know why I have to come off like I am defending someone. I was just reporting a good experience with a vendor and the fact that he gave me a deal on shipping and told me I could pass it on to anyone from Discoweb. If someone has had a bad experience with the same vendor, then by all means, pass that on too, but at least have the nuts to put your name on it. If you don't, how do we know you aren't just a competitor slandering the competition?
I like the proposal I have heard many times before about removing the "post as anonymous" option. I am sick of these cowards. It is one thing if you are just posing an innocuous question or some light-hearted banter, but all these guys that make rash statements and accusations and then post anonymously should think about what they are doing, especially when it affects a person's business reputation.
-MARC |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 09:56 am: |
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Hello Marc
I concur with your assessment of the anon issue -- I have just posted feedback to the triad suggesting they do away with this commuication loophole. You ought to weigh in on that suggestion.
Michael |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 09:58 am: |
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LOL! The triad.
Tom |
Marc
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:11 am: |
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Michael,
No need, I am sure they will see this post - but thanks for the support |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:13 am: |
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the following IMHO!
"I agree with Marc. The critics should chill out. I found this tid-bit useful. Why discourage others from trying to inform us."
neal, i dont believe that anyone was being critical and no one here would turn down a good deal. but, when you post(esp. on a matter such as this) sometimes questioned are asked, there was no attempt to slam anyone, i believe we are curious. on the other hand if someone has had a bad experence with a vendor, even if you like him, then that to should be posted.
"Anon,
Maybe if we knew who you were we could weigh your reputation and give your "information" whatever credibility it was due." marc i so agree with that. here is example of someone spreading bullshit. how can we as the consumer verify this persons claim if we dont know who he is and which event or club he is refering to.
" Last I heard from Europarts was when Mohammed shafted a Club after he contracted to pay them for advertising in their newsletter. They printed his ads and even had him attend an event. They he refused to pay.
Less that $100 was involved but it reflects adversely on the character of the person and his company.
perhaps you can consider this when considering who you buy parts from" ANON, in my line of work i have to investigate many claims made by persons who have become a victim. i asked these questions, who, what, where when, and why. if you can answer those question as it relates to your claim, please let us all know.
"MK - I have ordered from him twice before. One time I got everything in short order (4-5 days) the next I ordered some out-of-stock items (plastic door pockets, oil fill cap) and some in-stock items. He sent the in-stock stuff right away, and the out-of-stock stuff took about 10 days, but he did not charge me for the second delivery. I also returned some of that second order, no questions asked." marc, turn around time on orders is important to me, i may need the stuff BAD.
finally, i used to work part time for a large motorcycle mail order company. in an attempt to make customers happy we were hmmmm, encouraged, to tell the customer that the item was in another warehouse and would be shipped shortly. we didnt have another warehouse, we did have vendors who suppled material to us for retail sale. when we would ask them about a part, they would reply,"its in our other warehouse".
have a great day,
mike w |
Kyle
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:28 am: |
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I am quite aware of what you are all saying but I dont think you are quite aware of what I am saying. Sure you have options today. Those options (As we have all seen) can be gone tomorrow , just that fast ,if the vendor doesnt do well. Therefore you kinda choose who stays and who gos . Keep the ones that are enthusiasts and can do the most for you. I have said it before and I will say it again. There is little need to go outside of Expedition Exchange , Rovertym , great basin Rovers and Discount rovers... They pretty much take care of any damn thing you could want and they are all knowledgable enthusiats that can support their product. I dont say this out of sponsorship or any other ties. If one of those companies sold something I thought was crap or acted like pricks I would say it out loud with no problem. I only make these posts because so many have learned the hard way (Including me) about what vendors can do what for you and which ones will even try.... If you are going to have a long relationship with your rover you should probably start building long relationships with the people that can supply the crap to keep it going....
Kyle |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:34 am: |
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Anybody remember British Bulldog?
-L |
Marc
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 10:35 am: |
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Kyle,
I have seen you post this same argument before and I wholeheartedly agree with you. That is why I order stuff from EE and SteveII even though they are on the left coast and I live on the correct side of the country. It might cost me a buck or two more for shipping, but their prices generally make up for it and I like those guys and we all like our rovers. I am all for supporting the community.
-Marc |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 12:11 pm: |
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Well, Kyle, you do make a strong point. What accessories EE had that I wanted, I bought from them for those reasons.
I buy my parts from Discount Rovers, and started to because they were the cheapest. This was before they had a web site and posts on this board were the only way I knew about them. I am betting that posts on this board and others like it are why Discount Rovers is here still today.
The little new guys that we hear about or pop up will hopefully keep our "staples" in check. If it's a couple bucks, I will buy from who I trust. If the price gets more vast, I won't. Roversnorth provided me with damn good service, when I bought from them years ago, but the prices were way too much of a killer to keep using them.
Tom |
Curtis
| | Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2002 - 06:49 pm: |
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Kyle brings up a very good point. Many good vendors in lots of industries have been put out of business by guys wanting to make a quick buck. Unfortunately, the battle on this front will never change due to the enhanced CB effect found in all segments of society.
Curtis |
Paul Long
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Europarts ?? Just say no. Maybe you'll come out and defend yourself Mohammed if your a Dweb reader. Remember the guy who bought the '99 DII needing front rotors and pads last summer? $50 each for aftermarket Front Rotors were to be "in stock" at time of order. I also ordered OEM front pads (the middle priced pad from a choice of genuine, OEM , or aftermarket). Now thats not a difficult order. I recieved instead; front AND rear brake pads only. Genuine at that! The horror started when I checked into why my credit card was billed more than double than what I expected. I was billed for Genuine pads, AND Genuine front rotors! I was then told the rotors were being shipped from California. He was having trouble getting the aftermarket rotors. OK, I bought that.... I'm in the LP Gas business and know how supplies can get. My problem was that I had already paid for the expensive parts I didn't want, now my correct order was "in the mail", including the correct pads I ordered. In this shipment was recieved Mintek pads. Now in my garage for a month and a half was my "new" truck needing front brakes and rotors BEFORE I could get it inspected and drive it!... After fuming for that month, imagine opening the long awaited box to find ONE brake rotor... The outside of the box was marked shipped from a LR dealer in California. A few days later, the second arrived here FROM ENGLAND. So he must have done what he had to do to get these to me. Just without any honesty. That goes a long way you know. Now is my credit card going to be billed for this kind of shipping?? For all the trouble he said a few oil filters were thrown in the box for me. Well guess what Mohammed, I never saw any oil filters.
Now I'm still trying to find out if the Ferodo pads sent are actually genuine as he claims, if the Mintek he sent the second time are OEM as he claims, and who makes the aftermarket.
To back up my claims, any member of the D2owners group in Yahoo can read the archives from last year. My rants on this guy should be there. It takes a lot to get me to bad mouth someone. Congrats Mohammed, you did it. And I have the balls to use my name. Paul |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
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It seems that most of the D90 guys use Europarts and are quite happy. That idea that "There is little need to go outside of
Expedition Exchange , Rovertym , great basin Rovers and Discount rovers" sounds pretty stupid to me. I've used Paddocks a lot and have no complaints. |
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