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JC
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 03:58 pm: | 
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If you do, does it work. It is suppose to improve HP, and MPG by up to 25%! Is it true on Disco's? DOES IT HAVE LONG TERM EFFECTS? I imagine it is hard to install...?? If you are curious check out www.tornadofuelsaver.com Theoretically it twists the air in your intake tube or something! Well they have it for a 96 disco and i hope it works!!! |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:02 pm: |
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Check the archives. There have been some "discussions" on the matter in the past..
-P |
Brad Bradford (Brad)
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:04 pm: |
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I have something similar on my truck. As far as I know there aren't any long-term effects. This will also allow you to run mid-grade instead of the expensive stuff. I have had mine for about a year, and have had no problems. I went from 11mpg to about 15mpg. It may seem minimal, but as much as I drive it really helps. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:15 pm: |
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I was screwed by this company (yeah, I know, I was stupid for ordering one). After about 6 months of driving with one in, I threw it out. There was no benefit at all. Useless piece of sh1t! |
Kyle
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:29 pm: |
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Hmmm , I dont understand. I bought one of them off of a late night infomercial and it did wonders for Horse power and Mileage. I have about 100 more HP now and I think the Disco has switched over to making gas instead of burning it. I didnt expect all of these things as I had bought it to clear up the issues with my noisy clunky out of control Detroit locker....( I heard that it worked) I am sorry to say that the Detroit still takes over my driving and its banging and clunking jsut as bad as always though... 
Kyle |
JC
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:44 pm: |
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where might i check the archives? and to kyle, did it really do wonders, i think it was the same infomercial... |
Chicken Little
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:53 pm: |
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Be careful, I heard that if you use that Tornado in conjunction with a Detroit locker your rig will inevitably flip on its side and burst into flames!! It has something to do with Spontaneous Combustion and the 'crabbing' effect that plagues locked differentials. Don't take the risk. |
JC
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 04:58 pm: |
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what the? what is a Detroit Locker, and what does it have to do with the Tornado? How is it a risk? |
brianh
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:01 pm: |
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LOL...poor JC |
al hang
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:04 pm: |
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I wonder if there is a correlation between high school drop-outs and tornado purchasers??? hmm.... |
JMcD
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:08 pm: |
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I am such a dick. No JC, there is no risk, just pulling your chain. A detroit locker is a mechanical device that sends power to both wheels
to eliminate wheel spin. Has nothing to do with the Tornado. I don't know if the Tornado thing works but, ask yourself this," If there was a part that improved MPG and HP by 25% don't you think the manufacturer would put it on all new cars?" Every manufacturer spends tens if millions on R&D (research and development) trying to lower mpg, if this piece worked they would use it. Or put another way, If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Good Luck. JMcD |
JMcD
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:11 pm: |
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Hey Al, I take offense at that remark! I almost finished 10th grade. JMcD |
JMcD
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:15 pm: |
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I would have to, if that God Damn detroit wouldn't have put my truck in ditch. All that clicking and banging, drove me to quit school! JMcD |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 05:16 pm: |
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"Every manufacturer spends tens if millions on R&D (research and development) trying to lower mpg, if this piece worked they would use it."
Hmmm... I think you actually could be right!
Masked Mask |
Craig M. Highland (Shortbus)
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 07:02 pm: |
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http://www.discoweb.org/thewindow/index.htm
It belongs here:
Craig |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 07:15 pm: |
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LOL
anyone have a picture of the tornado? |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2002 - 07:32 pm: |
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the address is http://www.tornadofuelsaver.com |
Brian
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 12:10 am: |
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I put one in my D2. The gas mileage did improve slightly(+2 in the city; +4 on the highway). More importantly, I noticed a bit more power while hauling a trailer in the mountains.
Is it worth it? If you find yourself using your hitch often, I'd say yes, otherwise invest your dollars elsewhere.
Brian |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 04:05 pm: |
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I know a guy who used one of those things and it got sucked into his engine and came out of his muffler like metal confetti. That was a waste of money. |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 04:10 pm: |
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Bullshit. Just pure Bullshit! |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 06:31 pm: |
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I installed one and found that due to the centrifugal (sp?) force of the air going through the Tornado, my rover no longer leans to one side when the engine is turning over above 2000rpm! I do get a slight lean to the other side now at redline. Just make sure you don't install it backwards or it will make the lean worse instead of counteracting it. |
KJ
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 07:19 pm: |
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JMcD,
I heard if you keep telling tales of Spontaneous Combustion, Chicken Littles will fly out of your ass and you will flip on your side and succumb to Spontaneous Human Combustion. Just something a friend of my cousin's sister's babysitter said, but consider yourself warned.
Karen, knows the Blair Witch |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 07:24 pm: |
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Flipping over on your side and bursting into flames is quite prone to anything with english engineering (I think it's suicide). The metal confetti was actually his main bearings. the term "Bleed Green" is telling you you better be able to bleed money out of every poor if you think you can keep your rig on the road. I don't know about high school drop outs and tornado purchasers but the term "educated fool" comes to mind when looking at pictures of proud land rover owners.
at least this is what my wife tells me personaly I love my blood sucking money pit
just a question why cant you take the worlds best 4x4 by far in as deep of water as a jeep? thats what I'm told from land rover north america anyways. |
Curtis Couch
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 05:23 am: |
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Anon,
I think you just answered your question in your own statement "best 4x4 by far". It is meant to be a 4x4 not a submarine. Besides, I have been to many water crossings that the poor little j**ps couldn�t even get to, heans the name "best 4x4 by far". Anyway, if you want to go swimming jump in a Tdi, then you'll see where the J**p stands (or should I say stalls).
P.S. Next time you want to come on a Disco page and degrade LR's at least be man enough to post your name. |
Sceptic Little
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 09:20 am: |
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Hey Karen, How come I can never get the battery in my video cam to last more than 15 minutes but those little snots in that horrible movie used the same battery for about 4 days? Also, how come they didn't bring a compass for god sakes? Or at least why weren't they able to follow a straight line by tracking the sun? Huh? Huh?
Please inquire about these inconsistencies and get back to me as soon as is convenient. As far as the possibility of chickens flying out of my ass, all I can say is "OUCH!"
JMcD (who wasn't even aware there were trees in MD, let alone a forest you could get lost in) |
SirRobin
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 09:09 pm: |
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Food for thought...
Harley Davidson had a problem of air bypassing the radiator on prototype Vrods. They found that by adding vortex inducing strakes to the shroud they improved cooling immensely.
I recently had my Stihl SH85 garden Blower/Vac apart... tuns out part of what makes this one of the top performing blowers on the market is, you gussed it, vortex vanes in the output pipe.
snow making machines, and many industrial spraying applications utilize this phenomenon to promote better mixing.
Jet engines of most types rely on votecies to varying degrees.
The question is not whether the phenomenon exists... it does. the question is, can it REALLY make a difference in more tortuous intake systems and do the pack pressure pulses and resonant waves from cycling valves, constrictions imposed by throttle plates, etc. negate the effect. |
Mel A.
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 09:50 pm: |
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I think that the Tornado will make more of a difference if the air box on our Disco's weren't so restrictive. |
ken
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 10:02 pm: |
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Hey, Curtis don't get your land rover green panties all twisted.
I'm just having fun just like the people trough out this forum that can't give straight answers to new people asking honest questions. The jeep crack was aimed at the fact that lr owners like jeep owners or any other make are far to one sided and can't see the advantages and true abilities (with the right driver) of all vehicles. Like it or not the electronics in our nas land rovers prevent us from safely going deeper than 18" just a fact.
By the way I don't know how deep you realy went but I took my 98 disco deep enough that water was splashing across the windshield this was in a swamp in jax fl. That was my mistake for following my red neck buddies in thier jeeps. They think its fun trying to get me stuck folowing them.
anyways lighten up! and try not to be so one sided.
P.S. Its to bad they never overed the TDi in the US that will be my engine upgrade a couple of years down the road.
have a great night
Ken |
Curtis
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2002 - 11:57 pm: |
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Hey ken, Sorry about the short fuse, but in my defense I have just stopped smoking and tend to over react lately. It's just that I get a little testy when the word J**p is used, you see all my trail buddies drive j**ps and I get more than enough harassment from them. D-Web seems to be the only place I have to talk with guys who understand the Disco like I do. For the recorded it was not my LR panties that where twisted, there LR boxers thank you..LOL.
P.S. Thanks for using you name this time, it's always good to know who your misdirecting your anger toward. |
Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 12:31 am: |
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Silly rabbit. Don't you know that tornadoes are just God's way of limiting the # of trailer parks in operation at any one time?
That being said, I do understand that installing one will compensate for the "Disco lean", though not as effectively as DiscoWeb stickers (which also can repair/replace mud flaps). |
Curtis
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 12:40 am: |
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Waaait a minute there...you must be Curtis Couch. I am Curtis. Watch that identiy stealing stuff - it gets dangerous
Good to see another "Curtis" around all the same.
Curtis |
KJ
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 10:07 am: |
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Batteries? We in Merlin don't NEED no stinkin' BATTERIES! Compasses get all screwed up, too, because of the Mason-Dixon Line confusion. Maryland's State Motto: "Don't ask us, we can't decide." As for the sun issue, they were crying so much they couldn't SEE the sun. Babies. If I could ever learn to post a picture here (yeah, yeah, read the instructions, still can't make it happen) I'd show you some Maryland woods you could neither get into, nor OUT of. Forget running from lions, and tigers and bears, oh my. We spent the last two weeks slashing our way through it, and last night I drove the Disco up my new trail. Twice, for good measure.
Karen |
Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 10:32 am: |
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Karen, I suppose the third time was for spite then? |
p m
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:51 pm: |
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you guys are so negative...
in my disco, gas mileage improves slightly (+2 in the city; +4 on the highway) every time i even think of buying a tornado...
peter |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
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yeah but can it take care of that nasty rash?
i just assume anything on an infomercial is crap. but then again i have bought a few things that were 'out there'.
it's like taking a sugar pill in my mind......you are willing yourself to make your truck get better mileage. haha.
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PerroneFord
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 02:23 pm: |
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I bought that Oxyclean stuff and the Orange Cleaner because of the infomercial. First damn thing I ever bought that I saw on TV that actually worked as advertised.
I'm still not buying a Tornado though.
-P |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 03:36 pm: |
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The purpose of the tornado is to create air turbulance. Mix up the air and fuel for a more compete burn in your cylinder. I have seen some hi-perf. heads that had swirls cut into the dome to try to create that type of thing. I don't know if they worked, though. Anyway, judging by the way air moves into the engine, it would go through the tornado, (for all I know, the tornado might be great at creating turbulance but..)through the tube (I'm gettin real tech here) and into the intake manifold. BUT, the air has to go down the stacks. I don't see how this thing can stir up the air and keep it stirred up all the way down those velocity stacks. If it were in something like a 2-cycle engine where its more of a direct flow, OK, maybe then. I doubt that its physically possible to work on a disco. |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 03:58 pm: |
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Jeff, the Dweb stickers compensate for lean too? And I thought they were only for better traction. Wow, they should be upgrade #1. |
niall forbes (Forbesn)
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 04:00 pm: |
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Reading the above responses, who wants to bet that JC thinks DiscoWeb is really a support group for assholes ;-)
"Hi, my name is a Niall and...well...I'm an asshole."
Now you all say "Hi Niall". |
Hi, my name is Jack and I am an asshole:
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 04:36 pm: |
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already said I was dick, now I have to be an asshole too? Jeez.
JMcD |
Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
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Niall, my IIA is held together solely by 29 DiscoWeb stickers and 3 cotter pins.
I tried adding the EE stickers, but they came attached with Johns email dissertations and that caused too much drag on the tired 2.25L. ;-) |
ken
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 11:44 pm: |
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This tornado tornado talk is going on much longer than i ever would have imagined.
oxi clean and orange glo are great by the way. I highly recomend it! |
JC
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 02:41 pm: |
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Thanx much for the info/ headache? kiddin' i will buy it anyway and share the results with ya later...If i blow up i will be asking a hell of alot more questions, thanks again... |
p m
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 02:59 pm: |
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JC,
check the thread at disco2owners list at yahoo, Lawrance Lee did actually buy the damn thing and test it for some time. His bottom line was "a waste of money."
IMHO, a Tornado is one of these things you know about the minute you're born.
peter |
muskyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:36 am: |
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hey all
does the tornado work??
ask dorthy it gave her a ride |
muskyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:47 am: |
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man I hate to blow posts |
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