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Marc
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nice work on the new bumpers and 8274 mount in your gallery update. You make me wish I had a DII.

-Marc
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Marc, I appreciate that. Thing is, if I can do it, anyone can. All it takes is some metal, a welder, and some spare time (which I am seriously out of now).
 

Kent Westbrook
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

Just saw the pictures. Looks good, nice install. I probably wouldn't recognize you in CLT now, with the bumper in place.

Kent
 

Diesel
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

That is a very clean bumper design. Nice work fitting the 8274.

Diesel
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks guys. I appreciate the compliments. Just glad to have my ride back together. :~)
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, April 08, 2002 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Now this just wont do. I feel Greg`s bumper should get at the very least , 200 posts... :) And that is some nice work around the curves of the grille Greg. I dont think many can aprecitate the time spent there with the grinder...


Kyle
 

KJ
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well, throw it out the window, Kyle, and everyone will REALLY have something to talk about! Greg, I know spit, but I think it looks good, too!

"Greg's 'Bumper'....Chicks dig it!"

Karen :)
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well Karen, your comments sealed the deal. If Chicks dig it, it's got to be the sh*t. Hehe. Of course, my wife may have something to say. :~) Seriously though, I appreciate all of the compliments, but geeze, no controversy? C'mon, I can take some criticism. Anybody?
 

Kyle
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well I hate the 8274. Does that count ? :)

Kyle
 

Hank (Disco_Tex)
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nice job Greg...

Now when are you going to make some D1 rear bumpers??

lol


c'mon, please!!!
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kyle, that's what I'm after. C'mon, let's keep 'em coming! Hank, I can't even keep up with the DSII rear bumpers, let alone another project. I have looked into it, but there are so many differences, it would warrant a complete new design. Plus, there's alot of good products out there already. I did the DSII because rear bumpers with good departure angles are rather scarce.
 

mongo
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Let see...i'm looking...can't tell from that shot...other than the actual winch...it's awesome...built some I'll buy one...

Frank Rafka
 

Greg P.
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.,

Great bumper, great Disco and great name :)

Now, how bout posting a tech report on how you made those quick disconnects for the DII so I can attempt it. Also, is there any noise or play in the sway with your design?

Again, really great ride.

Greg P.
 

Curtis
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Seriously though, I appreciate all of the compliments, but geeze, no controversy? C'mon, I can take some criticism. Anybody?"

Hmmm...er...well Greg...you can't exactly say that it looks like a KVT or RT...or anything else out there for that matter. I guess if I had to pick something it would be...ummm...er...uhh...can it be...no... Sorry Greg I am at a loss. You are on your own for conflict on this one.

:)

Curtis
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg P., the disconnects are VERY easy. Remove the nuts from the top and bottom of the front links. Then cross-drill the bolt to accept a 1/2" hitch pin. Use a flat washer and possibly a teflon disk to cut down on squeaking. Do the same for the rear but only remove the lower nuts. You can then make a small "L" bracket that bolts to one of the bump stop mounts. Drill a 1/2" hole in both ends. One bolts to the bump stop mount, the other hole is used to keep the rear swaybar in place when disconnected. The front will stay in place without any help. Thanks for the compliments on the bumper.
 

94Rover
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg, the only thing I don't like about you is the fact that you and your family don't live next door to me.....Man if you were my neighbor, I would ALWAYS BE AT YOUR HOUSE, IN YOUR YARD, AND PEEKING OUT MY FRONT WINDOW, Hoping to catch a glimpse at what you are going to do next....and yes your work makes me believe that anyone can do it- I wish you had a P38A Range Rover 4.0, cause I would love to see how you would modify that- I'm eagerly waiting to see who can, and who will begin tearing the RR-P38A apart and modifying it for the real 4x4crowd. Maybe when the Gen3 Range Rover hits the streets in July, we will see some 4.0's reworked........ We'll so much for my rambling, and oh, I forget to remention it(NICE WORK!)

Former Greensboro, NC resident

94Rover
 

Greg P.
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.,

Thanks for the response on the disconnects. Do you find a need to extend the linkage due to all of your lift? I only have rovertym 2" lift, but wondered if I needed to account for the extra 2" in the linkage. Looks like you have 5 full inches with your spacers and 3" springs.

Thanks,

Greg P.
 

Michael Noe (Noee)
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here's some controversy...Greg's bumper is better than Kyle's!
 

Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Eeeeasy there, big fella...
 

E Snyder
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Now I finally know who owns the DII with the exhaust through the quarterpanel that I saw at MAR last year. Nice.
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Greg's bumper is better than Kyle's"

That will push the thread toward 200 posts :)

Personally, I prefer the bumper that can take the RE. Anything else is just playing around
 

Kyle
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Man , its got that jeeper winch on it .. Those damn things dont puull....


Kyle
 

niall forbes (Forbesn)
Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2002 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

How can you not like the 8274, aside form your Warn phobia?
 

Roger Fastring
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Warn 8274s are legendary. Oil bathed vs sealed no oil. Hmm. I'm rooting for the 8274. I've never had one, just warn 9k standards and Ramsey 9k standards, only because the $ for the 8274 and the height didnt work with the bumper/application I was working with. But given the option, I am all over the 8274.
 

Russell Smith (Rusty)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

Nice job. Not criticism ... just a question, how do you figure this type of winch install would hold up in hotter climates? Do you find engine temperatures any higher due to reduced airflow?

Russell
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry. I was offline for a while.

Greg P. - The spacers came off when the RTE springs went on. Currently w/ winch and bumper lift front is approx 3.5", rear is 3". When I was running the sways, I never extended the links. Just loosen the mounts at the chassis and rotate the bar down a couple of inches. Nothing worth worring about. I have since completely removed my sway bars, and have not really noticed much of a difference. Expect a little slop with the disconnects since the holes are a little oversized compared to the mounting bolts.

Mike N.- Damn, I din't mean to light a forrest fire, just wanted a little smoldering!

Moe - If I were selling these, the winch basket could be made to fit virtually any winch, as long as it fits between the frame rails. The outriggers would then just attach to the basket. Almost a "modular" design, but everything is fully boxed and welded together into one unit.

Kyle, I chose the 8274 based on its reputation, speed, and strength. If I need more power, I'll rig a snatch block. WIth 150' of cable, I can afford to do that. K

Rusty, the mount I had before had the winch in front of my grill, just not recessed. Never had any problems. I also ran the winch in the current location for 3 weeks (before the bumper was built around it) without any problems. Even had a couple of 80 degree days. This summer will tell, though. But the way I look at it is first, I have alot of airflow coming in the front because all of the factory airdam stuff is gone, and second, I don't see how this can be much worse than the guys running around with 3 big ass Hellas across their grill. We'll see.
 

ccdm3
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg...if you are in MO anytime you can swing by my place and hook my DI up. Your attention to detail (especially on the exaust) is nice!
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn Greg, I just took another look at your pics and now I am worried that those welds won't hold, the paint will fall off, and the entire bumper will fall apart on the trail. Has that contraption even been field tested? I suppose it doesn't matter if your sporting the girly warn up front
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Geeze, that hurt! Just finished it this week. It did get rained on this week, though. Held up pretty good considering it was a heavy downpour. Going to Uwharrie at the end of this month, so I guess I'll find out then. Only time will tell. Hehe. Wait, that was an old Asia song, wasn't it?
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

So it withstood the downpour and is probably rusting away right now. As far as testing at the the end of the month, you better take along a hand winch. Oh and don't sell the stock front bumper--you'll be needing it when the custom job needs repairs after Uwharrie :(
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Moe - why the hell are you giving Greg so much shit? Am I missing out on an inside joke or something?

Tom
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

Since Kyle won't make me a bumper, I suppose I'll have to beg for one of yours.

A couple of concerns though.

The recovery points are too high. I'd like to see them scraping the ground like on my ARB. Oh, and your approach angle is way to steep - couldn't you get the bumper to stick out a full yard from the grill?

Another thing, why is the roller fairlead so clean? I might be nitpicking here, but overall I think that POS should go straight out the window. Once you deem the thing worthless, do you think you might see a way to mount it on my D1?

Where were you guys when I bought the ARB!?

e
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Moe's just giving me what I asked for. Hell, I'm actually enjoying it. Hopefully Moe will be at Uwharrie as well.

Erik, that clean fairlead is now gone. It actually stuck out farther from my bumper than the bumper did from the truck, so I canned it. Replaced it with a hawse unit. For what little winching I do, the hawse will serve me well.
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hawse fairlead!! Can someone please throw this hunk of steel out the window before someone gets hurt?
 

Kyle
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

There is nothing wrong with a Hawse fairlead , unless ofcourse its bolted to Gregs ragged ass bumper....... :) (The Ramsey and Superwinch fairleads have a much better profile Greg)

Kyle
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kyle, just curious. Do you know if the other fairleads have the same bolt dimensions as the Warn?

Moe, the only reason the hawse would be dangerous is if you're standing outside of the window. It's one piece and is bullet proof. Never heard of a hawse failing. Will it chaffe the cable? If used day in and day out, probably so. Remember, they were used for years before the roller ever came out, so they DO work. But like I said, I seldom winch, so I'm willing to take the chance of a little wear on my cable. I'd much rather have the better clearance.
 

Kyle
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah , they are close enough ......

Kyle
 

Greg P.
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.

Did you get my email about those sway links?

Greg P.
 

LR Max
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.

Nice truck. I have seen it around town (Charlotte) a few times and every time I see it I just about drive off the road! If you ever see an old Series 3 109", soft top, desert camo, with an ARB and a mess of lights on the front, thats me :).

I saw your new bumper. It looks nice on the truck. Now I just wish I had a welder...

Max T.

P.S. Do you know of any fabricators around town? I am thinking about investing in some custom skid plates. Thanks.
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

Your work & bumper looks great! I really liked Kyle's too (!) ... Sorry I'm so late chiming in on this one, but I really shouldn't be purusing posts that absolutely drive me nuts, because ... because ... ooohhhh, I want a new bumper, I want a new bumper ... waaahhhhh

Kim :)
 

Kyle
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just follow Greg around till his falls off and then run with it... :)

Kyle
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg P. - No, I never got your message. Sorry.

LRMax - Where did you see me? I can't imagine missing a 109" in traffic. Did I have a bag over my head or something? As far as fabricators go, if you want the name of a dedicated shop, I have a few. But be prepared to pay. If you can wait until I get caught up (probably this fall), you can come over one saturday and we'll see what we can do.

Kim - Wow, another chick, er, female that digs my bumper. This is great! Seriously though, thanks for the compliments. And I know, you had to mention Kyle's bumper so his feeling wouldn't get hurt. It was very considerate of you. We all know how sensitive he is sometimes.

Kyle - LOL!
 

Greg P.
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg D.,

I emailed you to inquire about buying your sway linkages as it sounds like you are not using them now. Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks,

Greg P.
[email protected]
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg P. - You've got mail.
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Just follow Greg around till his falls off and then run with it"

The word of the day is that Greg's scruffy welds gave way last night and the entire project is laying in the driveway looking for a new owner
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A little investigating uncovered the real reason why Greg has no time to build DII bumpers for the folks on this booard. He has been spending all his free time designing bumpers for serious trail rigs only.

Greg's latest design
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Damn. That wasn't supposed to get out until I have my Yugo version ready as well. Oh well, the cat's out of the bag now. Good going, Moe!
 

KYle
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This is a very pathetic attempt at getting the postings to go over 200. Cmon Greg , piss someone off would ya ??


Kyle
 

LR Max
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

No, I wasn't driving my 109" the time(s) I saw you. I kinda saw you driving around a lot (you notice you see the same truck a few times? Then it goes away? Yep, thats what happened) before Christmas. I was driving an old beat up Blue GMC pickup truck so yes, you didn't notice me. But hey, I noticed you!!! It wasn't until the end of Febuary that I got my 109".

If you are interested, there might be a trail ride up at Uhwarrie this weekend. I know a few people are going on Saturday (sorry, don't know who or when), but I was hoping to go early on Sunday. If I can get a few other people to go, it would be nice but so far no one wants to go :(. I'll keep you updated on its progress.

Max T.
 

LR Max
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Scratch that Idea Greg. My 109 is broke, and I can't get it to go over 40 mph without having a seizure so I ain't 4 wheeling any time soon. Hope to see ya at the safari.

Max T.
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Kyle, I'm a lover, not a fighter (in my Michael Jackson voice). Just kidding! Moe's trying his best, but I don't think we'll make 200. :~(

Max, sorry to hear about MadMax3, but this weekend wouldn't have worked for me anyway. I've got family flying in from England. Thanks for the offer though.
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"I'm a lover, not a fighter"

Damn we have a board full of pussies. I'm the same way until you talk bad about my mother--or the ARB bull bar :)
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Man , Gregs creation might be rough. But that god damn big ass ARB , I have no words for that.... :)

Kyle
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL, this is pathetic. So now we are arguing about our own bumpers and leaving Greg's unscathed. That isn't right.

We need to setup a bumper smackdown that includes a round robin game of chicken--then I will have the scientific evidence I need to prove the superior strength of the ARB.
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmmm. Superior strength? Unless ARB is making them differently all of a sudden, how is their folded 3/16" (I think) gonna hold up against .25" & .313" welded steel tubing? Inquiring minds want to know. Besides, if it wasn't for your grille guard, your ARB would slide under mine anyway .
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I should say superior protection--10,000 dead roos cant be wrong

I'm not sure you can measure stength of a bumper by metal thickness alone. A better designed 3/16" construction can be stronger than 1/4" with poor design. Also, similar guage metals can have different strengths depending on treatment. Having cut and welded the ARB, I would hazard a guess that the ARB 3/16" is strongger than equivalent 3/16" plate taken off rhe shelf.
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Oh, I agree about the strenght in folded metals. The ARB is indeed strong, but I am confident that given equal blows, my bumper would fare better because of design and metal thickness. But my bumper is heavy as hell, and is made of the thicker boxed materials to compensate for lack of folds. They each have their applications.

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