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Mike Talley
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:34 am: | 
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I recently purchased a used LR CD player off E-Bay. I went to install it yesterday and got the "ERR" message on the radio LED display. Any ideas why? When the CD Magazine is NOT inserted I get a "NO" on the radio LED display. When I place the magazine in, it goes through the disks and then the "ERR" message shows. I even thought that I was maybe putting the discs in wrong. But I have tried putting them in face up and face down. I have tried unhooking the battery and then entering the code to the radio and that doesn�t work. I have even opened it up to see if maybe there was a CD stuck or jammed in it. I am at a complete lose. The CD player was from a 94 Disco I and I have a 99 Disco I. Is anyone aware of a compatibility issue with these two model years? It shouldn�t be this hard. Does anyone have an idea as to how much a LR dealer would charge to install the CD player? |
Craig M. Highland (Shortbus)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 11:55 pm: |
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Mike-
no difference in changers from those model years, so it seems there is a problem with the changer. Cd changers are usually shipped with a transit screw install to ensure that nothing slaps around too much during shipping etc... they are usually red in color, and I think they screw into the bottom of that changer. Is yours still there? If not, I may have gotten dammaged during shipping.
Most major US cities will have a Pioneer repair facility. I would take it there if you can't get it to work...
Sorry-
Craig |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:12 am: |
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I'll check for the screws. But I don't think there are any. I was afraid that it might have gotten damaged. Thanks for the advise. |
Robert Mann (Oldscout)
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 11:28 am: |
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Did you put the disks in up side down? |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 03:32 pm: |
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I've tried them both ways, face up and face down. But I still get the "Err" messages on the radio LED. |
Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad)
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2002 - 03:36 pm: |
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DID you buy a UK model it will not play US CD's and i belive you will get the same type of error
Dee |
Mary Griffin (Mary)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2002 - 09:31 pm: |
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They'll charge at least $150. I just bought a '99 Disco I last week and found out that a factory CD changer was required. Went to the dealership today and the changer is $499, $25 for brackets, and $150 for installation. Installation time in the Service Center showed to be only .5, but when I went to the department that does the scheduling and estimates, they said the installation time is 1.5. Not sure if I want to pay $700, so I'm still CD-less! |
Richard Dekkard (Dekkard)
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2002 - 10:32 pm: |
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US cd's?????
Thats a new one...
All CD's are the same in various countries... Audio Red Book standard.. |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 01:16 am: |
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Please let me know if this is true, or at least if you have heard anything like it.
I have heard that there is a pioneer 12-Disc player that will work in 94-99 Discos in the OEM location, with the OEM head unit and with the OEM plug. I heard that all you have to do is swap some of the pin locations at the Changer plug and it works perfectly. The unit was supposed to be on Range Rovers, but LRNA changed their mind.
Supposedly, to call up discs #7 through #12, you press and hold buttons #1 through #6 for a couple seconds.
What's the scoop on this? My neighbor may buy it.
Thanks. |
Jeremy Katka (Jkatka)
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 11:16 am: |
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yeah that is true. I dont think that you need to change the plug at all. The model number for the 12 disk is cdx-m125zrv the model number for the 6 disk is cdx-m65zrv the zrv is the pioneer model number code for rover vehicles I believe.
JK |
Tom P.
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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Mike,
I think that you need to clean the CD player. It's worth a try to see if it fixes the problem. My player (96 Disco) would not recognise CD's last year. It would cycle through all six CD's, then eventually it only displayed ERR. I pulled the changer and planned to send it out for repair.
But since I had it on the bench, I opened the case. I vacuumed out a little bit of dust, but most importantly (and be careful), I swabbed the lens with alcohol. There was some dust adhered to the lens that was very hard to see, but was preventing the CD's from being read properly.
Be sure to get the *cleanest* alcohol you can (rubbing alcohol is only ~87%), to avoid any fogging or residue on the lens. The changer has worked flawlessly since this cleaning last September.
Tom P.
96 Disco |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 12:45 pm: |
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Mike, you got ripped off. They sold you a bad player. I think it's as simple as that. Try to get your money back. Installation is VERY straight forward and easy. I doubt you installed it wrong. It is plug-and-play and took me about 15 minutes to install mine. You don't have to change any settings or anything else. Plug in and groove. |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 02:15 pm: |
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Thanks for all the input. I tend to agree with Kingfish. I think I got screwed. I took it in to an AV shop on Tuesday to have them look at it. I'm still waiting to hear back from them. Hopefully, it will just need to be cleaned, but since I paid $300.00 for it, even if I have to pay for some repair work it, it will still be cheaper then buying from the dealer.
The upside to this fiasco is that I used to just come to Discoweb to look at all the cool pix. I didn't even realize that there was a bulletin board. I'm glad I found it. You all have provided me with invaluable info about my 99 D1 and quite a few laughs. I look forward to many more informative and helpful posts and conversations.
Mike Talley
Birminghan, AL |
Rich Lee
| | Posted on Friday, April 19, 2002 - 04:14 pm: |
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Thanks,
So, where can I buy one of the cdx-m125zrv models? |
Jeremy Katka (Jkatka)
| | Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 12:15 am: |
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ebay item number 1346600866
JK |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 10:20 am: |
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Okay the Saga continues. I just heard back from the technician working on my CD player. He says that the mechanism is damaged or broken. He also says that because of the age of the CD player, if you are just tuning in it's a from a 94 or 95 Disco 1, he cannot get parts. I think his is just full of shit and his lazy ass doesn't want to check around for the parts. Does anyone know where I could get parts for the CD player. I don't care if they are used or new. I have also e-mailed the guy who sold it to me and he won't give me my money back. I'm a little pissed. Any help will be greatly appreciated. |
[email protected]
| | Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 11:34 am: |
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You know I bought a CD changer also off ebay and had the same problems. After fooling around with it I can get the 6th disc to work but nothing else. The guy claimed it worked perfectly when he took it out. Anyway Mike, did you just take yours to a local car audio place to have it fixed?
tenacstud |
Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
| | Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 12:13 pm: |
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maybe try talking to a Pioneer factory repair place. I believe Pioneer manufactured the unit - they should have parts - no? |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 12:54 pm: |
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Mike, maybe your changer is from 94-95, but they used the same one up to 99. I'm sure they continued to make them at least a couple years later. Where did you take it to be fixed? Also, I bought mine used from a junkyard for $200 (90 day warranty.). It was made in 97 and so far, seems to work fine. What I'm getting at is, maybe you should think about another changer. Repairing an old one will be easily over $100 and might give you problems in the near future. Just my .02 |
KEN
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 12:22 am: |
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JUST HOOKED UP MY CD PLAYER WHICH WAS NEVER USED IN FIVE YEARS , I GUESS THE PREVIOUS OWNER DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD ONE. ANY HOW THERE IS A PIN THAT IS ABOUT TWO INCHES LONG SCREWED IN AT THE TOP BACKSIDE OF THE PLAYER IT IS SLIGHTLY RED IN COLOUR (OPOSITE SIDE OF THE CD LOADING DOOR) IT LOOKS LIKE JUST ANOTHER SCREW BUT IT IS USED TO LOCK THE CD TRAY IN PLACE WHEN SHIPPING AS MENTIONED ABOVE , ALSO ENSURE YOUR CD'S ARE PLACED " LABEL SIDE DOWN " SHINY SIDE UP , THIS IS THE OPPOSITE FROM MOST CD PLAYERS. THIS SHOULD GET RID OF YOUR ERROR MESSAGE GOOD LUCK.
KEN |
Vincent
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 01:34 am: |
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For anyone who is interested (sorry if I am advertising), I have a very new CD changer (never used) for sale for Range Rover (model number CDX-M61ZRV; RTC7669). I will sell if for $200, plus shipping. Send me an email if you are interested. Or I will exchange it with a CD changer for a Disco I.
Vincent
[email protected] |
Horness Spencer (Horness)
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 08:58 am: |
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Ken,
Would that screw fit a DC082 6 disc changer in the UK?
Land Rover Part: AMR 3154 (22DC 082/61E)
I may be shipping mine, and I am looking for the locking screw to put back in to keep things safe 'n' sound.
H RNESS |
Ken
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 10:17 am: |
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Harness, I'm not familiar with that model so I can't say wether or not it's the same locking screw. I can tell you that the Cd cartrige on 1995 and earlier year pioneer models is not commonly used anymore ,so it would depend on the model that you have. You might want to try checking this site www.pioneerelectronics.com ,there are lots of pictures and model numbers which should help you match up your landrover unit to the corosponding Pioneer model . Or you can just try giving pioneer a call .
Hope that helps. |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 12:21 pm: |
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I'm going to pick up the CD player today. I tried removing the red tinted screw and was getting the "ERR" message on the radio LED screen. I think I will try and clean it hopefully that will help. Once cleaned I will try to install it again and if it stil doesn't work I might just go "Office Space" on it. Thanks for all the input and advise. |
94rover
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 12:31 pm: |
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lol, go"Office Space" on it- Gosh I love that movie as well as that scene- At my former job me and a couple of others would match actors in that movie to co-workers in the office- the amazing thing about it was that we actually had some people who could be real life characters- |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2002 - 12:55 pm: |
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I think that the guy who sold the CD player to me is a close relative of Lumburg. But the only "oh" face he will see is the "oh my god I am going to kick your ass for selling me a broken CD player" face. |
dodger
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 12:21 pm: |
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Why does everyone want to have the OEM changer and head unit? Ditch the head unit and replace it with a new and up to date cd package, it's much cheaper and the sound difference is amazing! |
Jeremy Katka (Jkatka)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 12:35 pm: |
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Dodger,
I want the oem because it is less likely to get stolen. I have to park my car in front of my house. Car prowlers are less likely to snag the crappy looking stocker then a aftermarket. Even with the removable face plate they tend to get niked. Alas My stereo is going south and I will probly buy aftermarket because to replace it with a stock unit and to find a cd changer seems to be to much $$ when comparing it to the cost of a cd head unit.
JK |
MIke Talley
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 06:18 pm: |
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Personally I really like the WB feature on the stock radio. Since it is built in, that is one less thing I have to carry when I go camping. It's very handy. But the down side is you have to use the OEM CD Player. The real down side is that there are people on E-Bay that sell you broken shit. |
BrianL
| | Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:33 pm: |
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I bought a CD player off EBAY a few months ago from a guy named Les for $200. I had the EXACT same problems you are having. Luckily He Took it back and I was only out the shipping to and from which was still like $40 |
T
| | Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 07:03 pm: |
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I just picked up a CD player today from a local electrical shop and at first thought it was a "dud". Turns out I was putting the CD's in backwards; I had them facing up but will only work facing down. Now I am rocking.....
Todd
PS I have some extra CD mounting brackets that I will sale for $10; came out of a '98 D1. |
Chris DeJesus (Mudy_Ovl)
| | Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:11 pm: |
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Mike, Sometimes if there is too much data on the CD the changer can't read it. The CDs track start in the center, not the outside like an LP. If the first track is too close to the center, the reading lens can get to it to reference itself and thus gives and "ERR" message. Also, I just found out the my changer doesn't read Audio Books. Hope this info helps.
Chris
Mudy_ovl |
JRoc
| | Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 08:26 pm: |
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What's a fair price for a CD changer and Stock Head Unit? I have both of these items in mint condition and am looking to add to my "Mods" account. I did say fair, I'm not looking to rip anybody off, but I know they're not cheap. They're from a '95, are in great condition, and can be seen in NY. Thanx guys |
Greg
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 04:07 pm: |
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Are all of the stock radios "CD Ready"?
I have a 97 and would like to put one in, but don't know if that would mean installing a whole new radio and everything. |
David Dryden (David914)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 08:05 am: |
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My '97 was "CD Ready". Look under your passenger seat and you should see a harness (not connected to anything) with two plugs under there. That's for your CD player.
David |
Greg French
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 08:23 am: |
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OH. I thought that was for heated seats or some such nonesense.
Do the radio buttons control the CD player? |
David Dryden (David914)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 08:37 am: |
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The radio buttons control the CD player. The connectors under the seat are for power and data/audio. The small white connector is power, the larger black connector is for data/audio. Look in your owner's manual (if you have one) for instructions on how to use the CD player.
David |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 04:35 pm: |
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Okay. I just talked to the Pioneer parts department. Going off the info provided to me by the ass at the A/V store and my little knowledge of CD Players it has been determined that servo mechanism is broken. Pioneer quoted me the lovely price of $398.23 for this part. Does anyone know where I might get a used one of these? I might just say screw the damn thing and go with Satellite radio. Anyone know anything about it? |
Greg P
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2002 - 11:00 pm: |
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Mike,
For $299.00 (on the internet) you can buy a Nakamichi CD-45Z Receiver/CD Player.
This is a 20-bit cd player which is 20 times better than the outdated stock piece of junk that your trying to fix.
Dude, trust me the stock unit is not worth it. Best to cut your losses and go forward with the Nakamichi.
Why fix an old unit that never was any good in the first place when you can get the best there is for under $300.
Greg P |
Mike Talley
| | Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2002 - 11:59 am: |
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Greg, Is Nakamichi CD-45Z Receiver/CD Player compatable with the existing wiring in my 99 Disco 1? |
Greg P
| | Posted on Friday, May 24, 2002 - 12:02 am: |
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Yes. Well, it's as compatible as anything else out there.
There does not seem to be a wiring harness for the Disco. There is for the Rangie, but will not work on the Disco. I know because I just looked at one today.
There is one that will work. David Dryden has posted a wiring diagram for it on this board. He says it's a VW harness. I looked at one of these today also and it's an exact fit except you just don't use all the wires in it. (See Davids Diagram.)
One side note: The package was labeled "BMW / AUDI / VW". It is a double-wide connecter that fits both the gray and the tan factory plugs. Any car stereo store will have these in stock.
This is what you need to use if you want to use the factory amp. Just wire the Nakamichi head unit into the wiring harness per David's Diagram and plug the tan and gray plugs from the factory radio in. (David, If I am wrong please correct me)
I decided not to use the factory amp. Instead I am powering the 4 main speakers from the Nak head unit. In other words I am just running speaker wire from the front and rear main speakers to the leads on the back of the Nak. The Nak has 4 sets of leads marked "front left +", "front left -" and so on. To me this seems easier, and the Nak puts out more power with less distortion than the factory unit anyway.
For the subwoofers, I decided to use the line level (RCA) outputs from the Nak and run through the little factory amp that's attached to the back of the subwoofers. This basically retains the factory subwoofer setup, which is pretty lame, but I want to see what it will do first before I trash it.
I will finish up the install tomorrow and let you know how it goes. If I run into anything weird I will post that too.
If you need to know more about the wiring do a search on some of the info that David Dryden has posted. He seems to really know his stuff, and has been a big help to me.
(Maybe we could talk David into writing an article in the Tech Section on stereo installation) |
David Tat
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 05:45 am: |
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hi,
gotta 1999D1, 6CD stacker is stuck in unit and err msg on lcd, any ideas for extraction much apprec.
dt |
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