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Matt Krummick
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is there anybody that has changed the stock rotors and pads with upgraded ventilated rotors and kevlar pads on a D1. Did you experience a dramatic difference? I'm in desperate need of a brake job and considering these modifications.
 

alhang
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'm in the middle of doing this and should have a how to page and review on my website in the next couple of weeks. I already did the DS rear last weekend, was going to do the PS but I don't have a garage and it was going to rain. I cannot honestly say there was a dramatic difference since I only did one rotor, but the costs were similar to stock so I figured what could I lose? The kevlar pads do make a weird sound when they are cold though, only lasts during the first couple of stops but you definitely know they are there, not really squealling and it does go away when the pads are warm. I got the complete kit made by Bearmach, I ordered them from DAP. You should also think about doing the wheel bearings since you have to remove all that stuff anyway. My how to page will cover the rears only for now since I will probably do the fronts when some other axle parts of mine come in from england.
 

John Kruger (Johnnyk)
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Did it a year ago, the pads wear very well. Since the XD is built up and I drive alot of highway speeds I wanted something that would not succomb to the heat of an immediate stop after going 70 mph.

I have had them in the mud and sand without any problems.

John

Expedition Outfitters, LLC
 

alhang
Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2002 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yes i have also heard the pads wear really well too. something like 50% better. btw john did you remember how many miles you got out of yours?
 

Jason Vance (Jason)
Posted on Saturday, April 20, 2002 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I know this post is a couple days dead...but where can you find VENTILATED rotors? I've seen sloted and cross-drilled, but I have not seen ventilated anywhere. Do you have to run thinner brake pads or modify your calipers?
 

tommy
Posted on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've just installed cross-drilled and slotted rotors from atlantic british and there makeing a wierd clinking/humming noise at all speeds. Does anyone know what that noise is?

Tommy
 

alhang
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

somebody posted earlier that the noise is supposedly air noise created by the rotors. I only have my rears on and they don't make any noise
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jason - see other thread. The rotors are stock RRC items (91-95). And yes, you need to either put spacers in your calipers or use RRC ones which have two lines each and "T" those lines together (or join the bores by machining).

Bill
 

Rich Lee
Posted on Monday, April 22, 2002 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RPI has some impressive vented front brake conversion kits for Disco Series Is. These include caliper spacers to adapt the brakes to vented RR Classic rotors (supplied) plus kevlar pads & fluid. The kit costs 395 pounds or $573 U.S., plus shipping.

They also have an "ultimate" front setup with AP 6-piston calipers, big slotted discs, stainless lines, kevlar pads, etc..about $2530, plus shipping.

http://www.rpiv8.com/suspension-3.htm

Or, for us "cheap bastards" DAP has a complete slotted/drilled rotor (non-vented)and kevlar pad kit for all 4 brakes, with all the seals, etc for $450 Add stainless extended hoses and you have the works for $560. Next paycheck, maybe.

PS Has anyone on the list actually "Faded" their OEM brakes on any hill? The worst descent I know in California is the east side of Sonora Pass, miles of 10% to 20% grade, no problem with about 800 lbs of people & stuff.
 

jim macklow
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2002 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I find it very easy to have my OEM brakes fade.

Just pick any curvy road (preferably downhill) and drive like a rally driver (brake hard before the curves, accelerate through, mash on the brakes at the next curve). The trick I've found is to be either braking fully or accelerating fully.

I can get my brake pedal sinking to the floor with smoking brake pads in about 45 seconds of such driving.

Although now that I think about it, the brakes probably aren't fading as much as the brake fluid boiling in the caliper.

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