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Jeff
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 10:47 am: | 
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I am putting new brake lines on this weeekend and I was not looking forward to bleeding the lines. My dad told me about a trick he used when he rebuild his Corvette. This may be the old trick that everyone uses, but I had not heard of it so I thought I would post it.
Necessary supplies:
1 jelly jar or equivalent
1 piece of hose, length doesn't matter, diameteter must fit snugly over brake bleeder bolt
lots of brake fluid
Procedure:
pop the hood
fill the jar about 1/4 full of brake fluid
loosen the brake bleeder bolt
place one end of the hose over the bleeder bolt, remember this must be snug so it won't let any air into line
place the other end of the hose in jar, make sure that the end is remains submirged in the brakefluid, best to use enough hose so you can coil it in the bottom of the jar once or twice to ensure it stays
now begin pumping the brakes, not too fast
the air will be pushed out and bubble in the jar and the fluid in the jar will prevent air from being pulled back into the system
just remember to watch the level on your brake fluid resevoir and in the jar
if you don't have anyone with you to tell you when the air is all out then once the fluid level in the jar begins to increase as much as the resevoir decreases then you have them as good as your are going to get by yourself |
Greg Davis
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 10:57 am: |
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There's actually a product that sells for about $5 at your local parts store that does just that. It works great. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:00 am: |
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you don't need any of that, why don't you just get someone to step on the brakes while you bleed the fluid at the caliper? |
Jeff
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:04 am: |
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Greg
the only ones i have seen are the ones with a hand pump, hose and lid that you put on brake resevoir, you still have to loosen/tighten/loosen/tighten...
thats the point Anon, I get tired of loosen/tighten/loosen/tighten... |
Garrett #2
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:12 am: |
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Any idea what diameter the hose needs to be for my DiscoI and what is a good length for the hose?? I'm going to run up to Home Depot and buy a piece of hose
Thanks |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:13 am: |
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I did the first work for Rovers with the Motive systems Brake Bleeder after having used it for my BMW. It's a pressure bleeder and gets rid of all the problems you guys are describing. Makes the job damn near foolproof.
http://www.spanishtrailrovers.com/Tech/Maintain/Bleeding_ABS_Brakes/bleeding_abs_brakes.html
Check out that article and then click to see the bleeder. The thing is cheap but terrific.
-P |
Greg Davis
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 11:30 am: |
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Jeff, the one I have doesn't need a pump. It works just like your jar. Once you've finished bleeding the system (by pumping your brakes a few times), you check the hose to make sure no bubbles are present, and tighten the bleed screw. Great if you're alone or the wife won't help! |
Jeff
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 12:01 pm: |
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LOL, so I am not the only one who lays under the truck shouting for my wife to come hold, turn or move something. |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 12:07 pm: |
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I think that is part of DIY. Should be DIY+wife!
-P |
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 01:23 pm: |
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Get the Motive bleeder! I've done lots of vehicles the yell and scream/pump the pedal way and the motive powerbleeder lets you do it all by yourself with no running around and should take you about 10 minutes for a Disco.
I can't speak highly enough of it - best thing is that's it's only about $60 with adapters to do most vehicles.
It even makes RR ABS brakes easy (well, sort of  )
Bill |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 01:30 pm: |
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Nothing could make the RR ABS bleed easy. I had a really hard time convincing Motive to even ADD the Land Rover as one of the vehicles their product worked on. It even fits some of the series trucks. For some reason even British Pacific didn't list coilers as possible uses for the Motive bleeder, but they changed their listing after I spoke to a nice gentlemen there.
Its really a great tool. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rovers North start selling them for $120.
-P |
Greg P. (Gparrish)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 04:07 pm: |
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Does it make it easy and safe enough for someone who has never bled or worked on brakes to install their own ss extended brake lines? I want to do a set on my DII, but have been hesitant as I didn't want to pay the mechanic cost yet. I've been doing my own suspension and bumper install work ,but have never touched brakes before. I'm pretty mechanical, but don't want to jeapordize safety or start something I can't finish as the DII is my only vehicle. |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 04:44 pm: |
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I had never bled brakes in my life when I bought mine. I got it to do the BMW brakes. After reading the instructions on the unit, and the bleeding instructions for the car I got to work.
Took me about an hour to bleed the whole system. I had so much confidence, I did the Range Rover that weekend. It took about 2.5 hours to do the same job, but it was easy and painless. The RR brake layout is a lot different and more complicated than the Disco. You should be able to change out your brake lines and bleed the system with basic handtools and minimal trouble.
I'm sure the guys here can give you plenty of guidance on changing them out as many have done it.
-P |
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2002 - 05:03 pm: |
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Greg - you definitely can do it. The hardest part will be getting the old lines off. Make sure you have a set of flare nut wrenches (IMO) and go at it.
I kid you not - the bleeding won't take you more than a half hour your first time with the powerbleeder.
Bill |
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