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     Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 16 Registered: 03-2003 |
I had a great story for you folks and lost all my typing efforts to the computer gremlins? Ok short version. Dealer replaced front d-shaft and noise/vibe still exist. Now they are replacing t-case because they think that the output flange is not aligned properly and is causing the problem. Vehicle is at 49,850miles still their dimes. But something doesn't seem right. Has anyone heard of this? If this is not the fix? What should I suspect next. See "Tire Tech" for more background on this issue. Thanks! | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2003 |
I've always suspected rotoflex problem? Has anyone heard of this problem with the t-case? | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 18 Registered: 03-2003 |
Anyone? Someone help me beat this horse! | ||
| Steve Cooper (Scrover) Senior Member Username: Scrover Post Number: 432 Registered: 09-2002 |
We're just all in awe that the dealer would actually replace the t-case "because they think that the output flange is not aligned properly and is causing the problem." Ask if you can keep the old "mis-aligned" t-case  | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 19 Registered: 03-2003 |
That's a great idea! If I could get the d-shaft and steering box and front differential that they replaced. Maybe I can build another crappy truck! | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2003 |
OK! What can you make of this? Dealer replaced the following: Front D-shaft T-case Rear Dif Front Dif While removing the wheels they found that all lug nut covers were bad and they want to replace them. They still have not fixed the noise/vibe problem! Wonder when they will replace rear dif? RotoFLex? Still their dime!!! | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2003 |
Went to pickup truck today! Still has noise! Now they are going to replace rear d-shaft and rotoflex?! Maybe? Finally! Some progress! But hey! New drivterain! | ||
| June H. Han (Junehhan) Member Username: Junehhan Post Number: 74 Registered: 04-2003 |
Craig, what kind of noise did your Disco have? Your described in your other post that it was some sort of wierd vibrating noise between 55-65. My 03 Disco seems to make a very low deep resonating rumble type of noise between 58-61 mph which is really wierd. I've talked with my dealer and they said that it's normal noise on the Discovery. | ||
| Alen Babayan (Alen) Member Username: Alen Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2002 |
Craig, i had the same problem with my 2001 when it only had 300 miles and they replaced what u mentioned, they found out later it was the Wrangler HP tires. Now that the D2 has 18k its starting to come back and dealer wants to replace all that stuff again. | ||
| Jim Ingarra (Jimingarra) New Member Username: Jimingarra Post Number: 22 Registered: 09-2002 |
Sorry to go against the dealer June, (I mean they are always right.) I have a 2003 and it is a totally different beast. My 95 had all sorts of issues with drive train vibes/noise up @50 -60mph.Forget about going above that. I can take the 03 up to 90, smooth as silk. I'd have them check it again, make sure you write it up as a service item for documentation. Good Luck. | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 23 Registered: 03-2003 |
The noise I have is a low growl. Kind of like a gear noise but smoother sounding. The vibe is not what I notice as much as the low freq. noise that it creates. | ||
| June H. Han (Junehhan) Member Username: Junehhan Post Number: 75 Registered: 04-2003 |
What i'm talking about sounds like a very deep vibrating noise coming from the rear. It only does it between 58-61mph. I've had my SUV upto 110mph due to circumstances that made it necessary at the time, and it was incredibly smooth at those speeds. | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 24 Registered: 03-2003 |
OK! Rear shaft and Rotoflex have not fixed the problem. They checked or replaced E-brake assembly. No good! LandRover now suspects Torque Converter!?!? Seems that they may have a history with this. I hate that all these parts have been replaced and try to consider that it is not as much a reflection on the dependability of the truck as much as the nature of the problem. I feel that the techs that worked on the truck early on may have gone for the most obvious offenders instead of isolating problem. This is very easy to do when someone feels familiar with the problem! I'm sure everyone has made these mistakes before. I know I have. I have to admit that initially the dealer was a little dismissive with my problem. But now they are completely motivated to solve my problem!! I miss my truck! I hope they fix it soon. Got a loaner Freelander in exchange for the rental today. Neat little truck. Makes the Sammy jealous! | ||
| OLIVER CLOTHSOFF (Everythingleaks) Senior Member Username: Everythingleaks Post Number: 291 Registered: 10-2002 |
If you used diff lock before the new t-box will not have this option on the top. It will be like the mid year 01 and up. I'm glad these guys are not working on my truck. Have they done any diag work at all or do they just see what the parts counter has in stock and throw it in. Being a 00 disco they could have at least put the truck in diff lock, removed a driveshaft, and then driven it to isolate it to the front, rear , or trans/tranfer case assm. If it was a angle problem with the flange or a runout problem with the flange they actually make tools the measure that stuff. I think the nature of the problem may be the parts swapper attempting to repair your vehicle. | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 25 Registered: 03-2003 |
I agree. Like I said I think the first guys to work on truck thought it was a easy fix, until they kept putting in more parts. Now they have a tech working on it that did the dif lock and removed d-shafts to isolate problem. Thinking problem is from transmission to e-brake. Tried e-brake. No good. Now they suspect torque converter as Rover has stated that they have had some problems. I haven't used CDL but was hoping to in the future. I'll have to inquire about the relacement T-case to see if it's capable. | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2003 |
So they have tried Torque Converter! No Good!? Now they think it's all driveline angles? I think they are full of #$@%! What the hell is going on? These folks only have a few vehicles that they need to know and understand, not like any of the big three. And with all the problems our vehicles have you would think that they would be extremely efficient with repairs! But no! Keep the truck for a couple of weeks. Hell I don't need it! Why would I actually want to drive it? People ask me how I like my new tires? I don't know? Maybe I should get the service guys opinion on how the tires are! Wonder if he knows where the tires are? 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 I feel lots better. | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 31 Registered: 03-2003 |
OK. Misleading they are. They did not try torque converter?! Service Manager got back from vacation and squelched that! They have ordered something for the front d-shaft that will help center the shaft to the input of the t-case! I didn't know my truck was so special! Wonder if this will help when I sell the SOB?!!! Going on three weeks and my truck has not made it back to my driveway! I am completely disgusted with LR. Maybe this is a very odd problem. How lucky can I be? What's it like to drive a Disco anyway? I think I've forgotten. I'm sure when I get it back it will feel like a big slow turd! If I ever get it back. Someone help me cry in my beer! | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2003 |
OH YEAH! Supposedly they have put all my stock 50K parts back on my truck. Except the front d-shaft! I thought for awhile I was going to end up with a new drivetrain. Oh well! Can't blame them though. Although I may not have put all those parts on in the first place! My budget is much smaller than theirs! | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 34 Registered: 03-2003 |
Ok. The special part that they tried was a front d-shaft from a DI. Moved the problem between 30-40 MPH. They put the new DII shaft back on and reinstalled the new front diff then changed the pinion angle on the front axle as much as they could. He informed that it is much better but not gone and that that is as good as it's going to get! He also informed me that they had tried to find a problem with my tires! So what the hell are they trying to do. Get out of a major repair? Or are they really at the end of their rope? I pick it up today. So we will see how much improvement they've made in 3 WKS! If it is not repaired where should I go from here? | ||
| Craig (Cabzjam1) New Member Username: Cabzjam1 Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2003 |
Got truck back today! Didn't know how bad I missed it! Problem is still there. Better but there. I guess I can live with it. Like I've said it's always been there. What if something major happens? GM is a real great guy! Always willing to talk about rides and other stuff. Makes me like the dealership all over again. If they could repair as good as they BS? I guess I'll keep it until it gives major trouble! It's all a gamble. I wanted 10yrs to 100k which ever is longest! Adopted that number on previous vehicles. Feel that is a good figure to escape major reliability problems and money pit problems. Most Japanese vehicles do real well and others are catching up. LR GM said that the future may hold more JAG engines and a baby ROVER? Late 04 Disco may go independent. Hope LR can keep my confidence that long. By the way LR dealer put about 270miles on my truck during the 3 wks it was there. Guess they really where at a lose? |
