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Horness Spencer (Horness)
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would like to replace my stock high beam bulbs with something a bit brighter, and whiter. I don't want to swap out the loom though. So I need something that is not going to cause a melt down in the electrical dept.

Are these any good on Ebay? Or are they all talk and no action?

G5 Krypton Bulbs

Any help / advice appreciated.

H:)RNESS
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.susquehanna.com/susq/hella/bulbs.htm

and look under Xenon Replacement Bulbs:
78151 - Replacement H4 (HB2) Bulb, XENON, 12V, 60/55W, Premium Plus 50%
 

Horness Spencer (Horness)
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Ho.

Will these babies burn the eyes out of any bunnies sat in the road? Save me getting thumper-on-the-bumper. ;)

Where I go hunting, the lanes etc. are about 2" wider than the Disco (with the mirrors locked in), and so damn dark, with no lights on, you cannot see anything out of the windows, let alone the end of the bonnet.

With a full moon in the summer, things are bit better, but it's all under cover from trees.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yes, those are a lot brighter than the stock bulbs.
 

Rick Lindgren
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I live in a rural area (lots of deer, rabbits, goats, cats, dogs, etc. on the roads) and have a wife with slight night blindness and a strong aversion to running over animals. So brighter lights would be great! A few questions:

1. Do the DI and DII take the same bulbs?
2. Is there a noticeable difference between the stock bulbs and the performance bulbs at HI and LO beam or just HI beam?
3. I have a cracked headlamp and need to replace it. Do the European spec headlamps really put out a brighter/better light pattern than the DOT/U.S. headlamps?

Any input is appreciated. I want to give my wife better nighttime visibility but don�t want to get her pulled over or make it so that she is searing flesh or cauterizing retinas in oncoming cars.

Rick
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yes you can use H4 on both disco1 and disco2.

better in both HI and LO.
 

J Persons
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sylvania makes a new bulb called the Silverstar that's available in the 9003 size. The light emitted burns at 4000°K, which isn't too far away from the 4100°K temperature of true xenon HID lights. I don't know anybody with them yet. Oh and I think they're rated at 60w low/65w high
 

Rick Lindgren
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ho, I've heard notorious things about you and your lights. :) Will these things melt items that are left too close to my disco or just throw a better beam?
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

rick, i am not sure what you've heard about my lights or me... but most likely they are rumors. :)

those bulbs are just 55/60 watts... just like stock bulbs. just that they are better quality and have a mixture of xenon/halogen allowing the filament to get hotter.
 

Rick Lindgren
Posted on Friday, April 26, 2002 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks, Ho. I don't have a manual nearby and couldn't remember if the 55/60w was the same as stock. This sounds like just what I want.

Anyone have any experience with the European spec headlamps?
 

Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I run the 80/80 W PIAA platinums (in the D2) not problems so far and the color / intensity are good.

2 things to make them last longer - don't touch the glass at all with your fingers, don't turn the engine on/off while they are lit.

Dean
 

Brad Russell (Bradnc)
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My dad just put the European E-Code lamps on his 1982 Volvo and the lighting difference in incredible. With the same type bulbs, much more light is directed towards the spots in the road that need it. I do not know if the change for Land Rovers would be as drastic, does anybody know? If it's the same as it is for Volvos, it's well worth the money.

Brad
 

Curt
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Has anyone tried a hid replacement? I was looking at hid4less.com, but I was hoping to get some feedback. I know I will lose hi-beams, but I can just flip on the hellas for that.
Thanks
 

Frode H�bertz Haaland (Discofrode)
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 02:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Theres several ways of improving light from Philips premium quality +50% bulbs (see Ottos pages home.halden.net/discovery )- and up to a new option which seems very interesting, though not road legal: A unit called "Illustro", basically switching from zero to 24 volts up to 2500times a second. Gives better light than HID. Problem is (as are 180W bulbs), they get hotter than stock; manufacturer states 30% hotter - so they MIGHT fade the reflectors earlier. Anyone got an idea whether a +30% heat will make any difference? Only know that the 180W racing lights do fade reflectors...

Frode
 

Doug Wendyker
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ILLUSTRO
http://www.sf.hiof.no/~frodehaa/disco.html

Has any body used or herd of this Product? I ran across this last week.

DBW.
 

jp
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I run 100/80 H4 in mine - no need to uprate loom or add more relays, MUCH better lighting than stock. Of course, I could get 330/290 H4s, but then I'd need another alternator, and a BIG relay!
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

just food for thought, but if you go to throwing that much fire out the front of your truck, would it not be wise to upgrade the headlamp wiring loom in order to prevent a china syndrome of the lucas stuff that there now. just a thought!
mike w
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is there any laws regarding how much sun can come out of your headlights? China Syndrome level of lighting could attract attention from bored donut pounding cops and the middle finger from others.
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

uh V22 there is a limit placed on wattages shooting out of the front of your truck. that is why the bulbs on a new purchase disco (and any other vehicle for that matter) is so dim. now as far as getting any "donut pounding cops attention,,,,to get noticed generally you have to be doing something really STUPID in order to get him/her for put down the jelly filled and chase you down. in my brief law enforcement career (12 years or so) i can say i have never been a fan of the donut. now if its beef jerky or a good chew of tabacco, well thats different. i have wandered from the topic,,, the federal govt placed restrictions on bulb brightness and cut of the glass on the lamp covers. in ohio we dont really measure the lamp brightness because our revised code as it applies to the traffic laws does not address the actual limit, again they left it up to the feds. if you are running brighter than what the feds allow type lamps and you approach a vehicle and if they become disoriented because of your lights and they run off the road and whack a tree then its on you. (for those who dont know thats what the fogline is for.) my thought is the low beams are low beams for a reason now if you want to run super bright bright lights then i am with you on that, but for the sake of those who have limited night vision and the elderly leave the low beams LOW. fwiw
mike w
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Nothing like the sound of hitting a nerve......

I was curious because there are some folks out there with some lights that look as if they harness the entire sun. I have to use the white line as a reference at night when I encounter this phenomenom.

Paul
 

Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I whole-heartedly agree with Mr. Watson. Low beams should be LOW, lower in my opinion than almost all new vehicles come with these days. (yes, I'm talking to you Mr. BMW and Mr. Lexus friggin Xenon headlights...)

What I'd like is a replacement headlamp for my DII with something like 55w(norm)/100w. But they all seem to come in 55/65w, or 60/70w.
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

nope V22 didnt cause any harm here i have listened to the uneducated ramble on for along time about cops and donuts....and oh the white line is refered to as the fog line among us donut hauling, 1 quart of coffee drinking folks...
mike w
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Man, a quart of coffee I am impressed! Thanks for the insight.
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Erik:

Hella makes 55/100 bulbs that are sold at the link posted by Ho at the top of the thread.

I have them and am very satisfied with the results. If you do go that route, make sure to either get the wiring loom or at least rig up a relay for the high beam circuit to save the switch.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

or, just keep the stock lamps.
and wire a pair of hella 4Ks for the BAM action.
 

Erik G. Burrows (Erik)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Woops, missed those. Neat! Thanks Mike, and Ho.

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