| Author | Message | ||
     Gregg Gallagher (Gregg_gallagher) New Member Username: Gregg_gallagher Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2003 |
I posted on 9/7 that I was able to free up my frozen CDL shifter on my 95 DI and was able to get the diff lock working. But I'm still not able to shift from 4w high into N or 4w low. I followed the "shift on the move" directions provided by others on the Web and the Rover manual but no luck. Is something else frozen on the transmission? I would like to figure this one out before I put the center console back together. Do I really need to have 4w low? Any help would be appreicated. Thxs Gregg | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 57 Registered: 07-2003 |
There's a solenoid that keeps your shifter from moving when the key is not in the ignition. Mine went bad on my 99D2 and another guy responded that his went bad as well on his D1. I don't know where it is located on the D1, but mine is on top of the transfer case. I had to remove the solenoid and either replace it - or cut off the nipple that locks the shifter. I chose to cut mine using my dremel tool. Works great now, however I can shift my transfer case without the key. Kenny | ||
| Dave Thomas (Davet) New Member Username: Davet Post Number: 9 Registered: 09-2003 |
When I had to replace mine I could not afford to buy a new one right away so I removed the solenoid from the housing that holds it and just put the housing back on. Worked fine 'til I got the new one. | ||
| Kenny Bissett (Jetson) Member Username: Jetson Post Number: 58 Registered: 07-2003 |
Good idea Dave! I was afraid I would get some ECU lights or something if I removed it. Kenny | ||
| Alden Stuckey (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2003 |
Friends I am battling the same issue. Diff locks ok but no low range. I have taken out the console and confirmed that the shifter is free. I have sprayed all manner of lubes and blasters underneath where I imagine the linkage terminates but all I can get when I try to shift into low range is the neutral alert at times. Does it sound like the solenoid is the problem for me as well? If it is the solenoid, does it make sense that I can get the differential to lock? I want to get this right. Thanks Alden 95 Disco | ||
| Gregg Gallagher (Gregg_gallagher) New Member Username: Gregg_gallagher Post Number: 7 Registered: 08-2003 |
I think this problem goes much deeper than the solenoid on the shifter housing. A tech guy I know from AutoSports(Zeeland, Michigan)showed me a transfer box out of a 95' DI today. The 4w H-L linkage from the CDL shifter connects to the transfer case behind the diff lock linkage. This linkage pulls/pushes a pin in the transfer case that engages 4wH&L and N. Also he said to check the "dedent" (I think) a 6mm allen bolt on the bottom rear of the transfer case that holds a steel ball and spring that I think stops or controls the travel of the 4W H&L gearing. He said to loosen this bolt as it maybe stuck as well. But don't remove it. Please don't quote me on all that at this time but I will continue to investigate. I removed the auto transmission shifter housing and I'm trying to work that pin back and forth at the linkage point as we speak. I wanted to check to see any more postings came through. I'll follow up w/you as thing progress(?) Gregg | ||
| Alden (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 3 Registered: 07-2003 |
Thanks Greg I can;t wait to hear what you find out. Alden | ||
| Rob Davison (Nosivad_bor) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Nosivad_bor Post Number: 908 Registered: 02-2003 |
Main Entry: de�tent Pronunciation: 'dE-"tent, di-' Function: noun Etymology: French d�tente, from Middle French destente, from destendre to slacken, from Old French, from des- de- + tendre to stretch, from Latin tendere -- more at THIN Date: 1688 : a device (as a catch, dog, or spring-operated ball) for positioning and holding one mechanical part in relation to another so that the device can be released by force applied to one of the parts | ||
| Dave Thomas (Davet) New Member Username: Davet Post Number: 12 Registered: 09-2003 |
The problem might go deeper than the solenoid but its so easy to check it that it should be the first thing you check. I have seen a few of these crap out....so keep it in mind. | ||
| Alden (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2003 |
Dave How easy is it to check? Can it be done from below or do I have to take the console back out. I know that it's not too hard to remove, but my wife would shudder at the thought of driving the disco to work with the console out. I know, let her ride a bike then. Tonight, I got the t case shifter into neutral with good positive "snick" of the lever, and the neutral buzzer came on with a continuous tone. A good sign I think, but still far from success. Thanks for the input in advance Alden | ||
| Dave Thomas (Davet) New Member Username: Davet Post Number: 15 Registered: 09-2003 |
You need to remove the console but its really not a big deal. It seems like a bigger job than it is. Just invest in a rivet gun that can handle large rivets (under $20) and your over the big hurdle. You should be able to remove the console, drill out the rivets, and check everything in two hours. The thing is...if your solenoid is stuck you are just damaging your linkage trying to get it into low. One option is to park in the garage where it is really quiet and push in the button on the auto shifter. You should be able to hear the solenoid 'click' when you do. If you cant hear it, odds are your solenoid is stuck. | ||
| Alden (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 5 Registered: 07-2003 |
Dave Been there, done that, got the click. It is the same clicking I get when I try to shift to low, so that sounds like it might not be my problem. I 'll probably take the console back off this weekend. Then to fully test, I should remove the solenoid? I thought I had the shifter fully free this past weekend, but maybe there is more to do. Thanks for any and all help, guys Alden | ||
| Bill Bettridge (Billb) Dweb Lounge Member Username: Billb Post Number: 1053 Registered: 02-2002 |
Since youcan hear it click, like you said you probably have another issue, but it is a good idea for future sanity to remove BOTH solenoids (tcase and shifter housing) and throw them into the woods as far as possible. You won't miss either! Bill | ||
| Alden (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 6 Registered: 07-2003 |
Well, here's my latest. I tried to shift the diff into low tonight and the shift lever broke loose, literally. No neutral, no resistance, nothing but a loose stick. Upon crawling underneath, I can see and feel that the linkage broke at the transfer case ... Or something came disconnected. I can feel the see the end which appears to have an adjusting nut on it and a few threads visable below the nut. Are there any detailed illustrations of how the linkage looks at the bottom end? At least I can engage diff lock and the case seems to still be in high range. Will I be able to tell by the RPM at any given speed that it is still is in high, or will I just know. This appears that I will have to drop the transfer case to get this fixed, huh? Thanks for any help Alden | ||
| Alden (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 7 Registered: 07-2003 |
Just finished today with replacing the broken lower piece of the high/low linkage. I thought I had it fixed but no joy. While I had the console apart I removed the solenoid from the transfer case and at that point got the lever at the t case to shift to three clear positions with the neutral chime sounding at the middle position. Good, thought I, and then concentrated on getting it all connected and back together. Now the shifter is sloppy and does not shift into low at all. I guess I'll have to get professional help. Any other ideas? Thanks Alden | ||
| Alden (Alden) New Member Username: Alden Post Number: 8 Registered: 07-2003 |
Gregg Gallagher, how is your transfer case high/low problem/solution going? This inquiring mind wants to know. Do you think it could be the detent ball and spring for the high/low as you mentioned? Tried anything else? Anyone had to replace a transfer case lately? Thanks Alden | ||
| Gregg Gallagher (Gregg_gallagher) New Member Username: Gregg_gallagher Post Number: 9 Registered: 08-2003 |
Alden: Message received and understood, I made some progress on the CDL....my job has been crazy and I've been on the road the last few weeks. No time to post on the BB right now. I'll follow up w/you later today. Gregg |
