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carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 62
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Where would be the best place to mount an antenna for offroading to maximize range with out getting it broke off while offroading. The roofrack would be the best place but it would last only a little while offroading the GWNF. I was thinking about seeing if one of the brush guards would be strong enough and ground it to the same wire my rear spot light. Any suggestions?
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Username: V22guy

Post Number: 1919
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Carl,

Some folks prefer using the mount on the ARB, but many others use the rear tire carrier as seen here:

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/cbantenna/



 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
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Username: Axel

Post Number: 299
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have mine on the roofrack. I use a long one for highway travel, and a short whip for tight spots out in the woods. I use quick disconnects so that I can swap the antennas easily whenever I need to.

- Axel


 

Joey (Joey4420)
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Username: Joey4420

Post Number: 194
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Whatever set up you go with make sure that you check your SWR or you will be burning up you CB.

If using two differnt sized antennas, the you want to check SWR on both units.....

Remember a high SWR will ruin a radio in very short order.
 

carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 63
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My CB has an SWR meter in it. I just bought a fiberglass antenna. At the moment it is on the roofrack and is doing great. I am just trying to get some suggustions.

Axel: How is the range of the short one? Is it good enough for offroading? I was thinking of doing that too.

Also if I tilt the antenna mount sideways on the roof rack will that effect the range?
 

Perrone Ford (Perroneford)
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Username: Perroneford

Post Number: 212
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Don't trust the internal SWR meter.

-P
 

Joey (Joey4420)
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Username: Joey4420

Post Number: 196
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Any time that you tilt a antenna it will effect the Rx and Tx of the unit. Picture the top of the antenna as a pie (8 slice pie that is) with about 3 slice gone. Now invision that the center or the missing slices is facing down on the top of the antenna.

That is basically how it Tx and Rx's, now any time that you change the angel of the antenna you move the open part of the pie higher up and you will not Tx or Rx as well from that direction.

Hmmm did I make any sense.
 

carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 64
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thats what I thought. I think I am just going to buy a little whip antenna used of offroading.
 

Chris Browne (Chris_browne)
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Username: Chris_browne

Post Number: 321
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 06:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a short one, mounted on the bracket of a Thule High foot.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
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Username: Axel

Post Number: 302
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl; the short whip I use (It's a tuneable Wilson) works fine for offroading. Both antennas have been tuned for the rest of my radio setup.

- Axel


 

Greg French (Gregfrench)
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Username: Gregfrench

Post Number: 588
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Could someone explain to me the basics of tuning a CB antenna? What is SWR?
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Username: V22guy

Post Number: 1922
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Greg,

From the archives; see the below links:


http://www.k40.com/Technical/antennafaq.html

http://www.firestik.com/Tech_Docs.htm

Paul

 

Roger Sinasohn (Uncle_roger)
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Username: Uncle_roger

Post Number: 42
Registered: 06-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Chris, any chance of seeing a pic of your thule mount?
 

carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 65
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just bought a 8 ft whip from for $15 at radio shack. It seems to work very well, (but SWR is a little higher than fiberglass antenna. (about 1.5 on all the stations compared to 1.2 on ch 20 on fiberglass antenna. I am currentsly checking my ground. I am thinking of mounting the whip on the rear bumper, passenger side away from the door. If I mount it there only about 4 feet will be above the roof rack. I could use this on and off road. (the whip is really flexable and small. just have to take it off while in city.) The only thing is that I will need to run a ground wire to that area. I will just have to get 4 small bolts, 8 washers, 4 nuts. The plastic rear bumper should be strong enough to hold.
 

carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 66
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am still getting high SWR readings (About 3) on the the long whip antenna, (I think it is 104 inchs or something like that.) When I hook my short fiberglass antenna up I get an SWR reading of 1.2 on 20 and 1.5 on 1 and 40. What could cause the high readings on the long whip. How do you tune a whip that long or do I not have to (because it is 1/4 the wave length or some crap like that). Do I have to ground the antenna mount differently for the long whip antenna? (I have use the same base for the two antennas? do you have any ideas or suggestions.
 

Koby (Koby)
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Username: Koby

Post Number: 552
Registered: 02-2002
Posted on Saturday, September 13, 2003 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Check your coax connectors and check your antenna ground with a continuity meter to ensure you're getting a good ground.

If you're using solderless coax connectors, ditch those for soldered connectors.
 

carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 67
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think I am having a problem with my ground on my CB mount. I have my CB on the roof rack and the rack is not grounded. I have a ground wire running from the CB mount to underneath the hood. My CB mount consist of a two plates (one plate having mount) that bolt together on the roofrack. (It is a Radio Shack roofrack CB mount). It seems that when the car is off the SWR reading are really good. When the car is running the SWR readings jump over 2. Any suggestions on where and how I should ground this mount or what the could be causing this problem. Thanks for the help.
 

Jerry Crawford (Jcrawford)
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Username: Jcrawford

Post Number: 91
Registered: 08-2002
Posted on Friday, September 19, 2003 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

if you take a look at the Outback antenna mount it will solve your grounding problems (all other things being equal) and it will put the antenna up where it's suppose to be. You won't brake off an antenna if it's mounted right - these things are very rhobust and take a hell of a beating. Use something about 3 or 4 feet tall - that's all I ever use.

Jerry Crawford
www.out-backeam.com
 

carl J. Drumgoole (Carl_kps)
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Username: Carl_kps

Post Number: 69
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 06:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I bought the soderless coax and it worked nice. thanks.

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