| Author | Message | |||
     John Roche (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 163 Registered: 08-2002 |
Anyone have any feedback on these type of recovery points??? These are the ones Safari Gard used/uses. I've been looking into these, Dixon Bates, and the shackle mounting brackets EE sells to be used with D-Shackles. I'm looking to add front recovery points to my DI w/TJM winch bumper. I can't mount a Jate Ring, as there's nowhere to mount it to. There seems to be rubber bumpers where it'd be most practical to mount recovery points, so I'm left with either closer to the winch opening or further away from it. Anyone tackle this yet??? | |||
| Chad Meyer (Ccdm3) Member Username: Ccdm3 Post Number: 150 Registered: 07-2002 |
John, I have a 98 D1 with a TJM bumper and Grainger recovery points. These are the same ones that SG uses. I am happy with them thus far. I have only used them once, but no problems. | |||
| Jamie (Rover_puppy) Senior Member Username: Rover_puppy Post Number: 277 Registered: 05-2003 |
John, I have been looking for a solution for months. Many are working on it, but no solution as of yet. The TJM bumper is NOT strong enough to mount any type of front recovery point to it - I looked into every item you mentioned. There is just no safe way to use any of them. Unfortunately, you are correct about the Jate Ring - no viable solution there either. Chad, where have you mounted your Grainger recovery points? I am VERY INTERESTED in your solution!!  Thanks, Jamie | |||
| John Roche (Jroc) Member Username: Jroc Post Number: 165 Registered: 08-2002 |
That's funny Chad because I actually saw them in the grainger book a few days ago. Where did you mount them? Jamie, I've been following the build-up of your rig. Wow, is all I can say! You have to get the award for most work done in a VERY short amount of time!!! I read your post on recovery points and figured this swivel mount doesn't take up much room, and is rated for much more weight. Where did you get the info about the TJM not being strong enough to mount recovery points to??? Seems to me the tabs at the bottom of the bar wouldn't work because they are too low to safely recover from. I think if one did this the stress would be placed on the top of the bar, and make it want to rotate in. Centered in front of the frame mounts on either side of the winch opening would probably be the safest bet. Nothing is going to compare to a Jate Ring mounted to the frame, so no comparison is needed. Jamie, I'm not doubting your info I'm just curious as to where you got it from. Thank you, John... | |||
| Ronnie McKinney (Ronnie) Member Username: Ronnie Post Number: 76 Registered: 08-2002 |
John, unless they make two different types of D1 TJM bumpers you should be able to mount shackles to the lower holes. My bumper was a two piece design and where the shackle mounts are is mounted directly to the frame. There really shouldn't be any rotation of the upper portion because of the way the two pieces go together. | |||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 176 Registered: 12-2002 |
the swivel recovery points work great, but the $G ones are not the same as what grainger sells. the weight ratings are not the same. and i wouldn't use any type of recovery point on a TJM bumper. they're just not very strong, but that doesn't mean that people don't do it. marc | |||
| Chad Meyer (Ccdm3) Member Username: Ccdm3 Post Number: 151 Registered: 07-2002 |
Sorry for the confusion. I did not look at the bumper in question. I have a TJM bumper, not bull bar. My bumper is steel, therefore I can mount recovery points to it. As for the grainger mounts. They are the same. You can get them in a number of sizes. Mine is 5k, and I only use it for self recovery with my winch. I have bow shackles hanging from the mounts in front of the frame. As for the aluminum bull bars, I would suggest bow shackles using the mounts on the frame horns. | |||
| marc olivares (Pugs) Member Username: Pugs Post Number: 184 Registered: 12-2002 |
they are the same "type" but not the same. marc | |||
| Bill Mallin (Billmallin) New Member Username: Billmallin Post Number: 5 Registered: 09-2003 |
I bought mine from CM... well... actually I had to go to Fastenal to buy them because CM will not sell them to the public... But anyway, I am attaching the spec sheet.
I got them for ~$60 each and then I had to fabricate some 1/4" plates to go behind the bumper and then buy grade 8 nuts and two broom clips. Here's a picture of it:  Hope this helps. Bill Mallin 2001 Disco AKA "Sherman" Web Dood http://www.houstonlandroverclub.com | |||
| michael burt (Mikeyb) Senior Member Username: Mikeyb Post Number: 530 Registered: 03-2002 |
jamie's (and others with DII's and tjm bumpers) search for recovery points is made more difficult by the fact that the tjm bumper for the DII is airbag compatible. it is not that the bumper is not strong enough, it is *how* the bumper mounts to the frame that is the issue. they use a modified crush can that can deform if stressed in the wrong way. that is also why tjm uses a winch tray that mounts directly to the frame and not to the bumper and then to the frame. |
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