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Brad
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I am stuck between which suspension lift to go with. Its either SG or rovertym. I want the stage 3 for the SG or the 3" lift from rovertym. I like both but am not sure which would suit me better I want to get the 3-link setup and a body lift, but don't know if rovertyms lift can have a 3-link put on it. Also which gives you the most flex and better handling Mostly for offroad in rocky areas like the Rubicon which I am really wanting to go on. And then Moab. Any one tell me there pros and cons of each one.
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Wednesday, May 08, 2002 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
3 link more for the lighter defender
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
how about this much flex?

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/hochung/19.jpg

would that work for you? :)
 

Brad
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
NO I need more Flex. I am wanting to fit some 33" tires and I don't want them to Keep me from using all the travel That it would usually have. I am looking to try to get the Travel like the guy that posted the Disco I think it was Kyles, but I don't want all that maybe later but right now I want to get atleast 1000 on the rti.
 

Ron
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Go with the rovertym lift. Then if you need more after you are locked add the 3 link

Ron
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
brad,

let me see if i can help you in the decision with some brain storming: what do you like about the different suspension setups? pros and cons perhaps?

and by the way, does anyone know what each setup can ramp?
now i am curious. :)
 

Brad
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Right now I really have no pros and cons except that rovertym uses ranchos which you can get cheap at any 4wheel parts store. They also will email you back when I email safarigard they never return any emails. I was wondering the cost of Rovertyms Driveline to SG. SG is $495
 

Ron
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 02:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
"I email safarigard they never return any emails"

I think you see the light!

You can get your drivelines from six states or better yet high angle. At 3in you should only need the front. If you stick to 2in springs you can probably keep them stock.

Ron
 

Mike Rupp (Mike_Rupp)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 08:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
With Rovertym, you can get long-travel Bilstein shocks, but will have to change to different style shock mounts in the front and rear. I'm not sure, but it should be still less money than the $G stage 3.

I would talk to John @ Rovertym directly and tell him your needs. I'm sure he will help you out.
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Brad, if customer service has any value to you at all, then go with Rovertym. I have worked with John alot and he will go out of his way to help. The 3-link was designed more for the lighter D-90's. There have been some improvments made to the system, but I think if you talk with John, he can help you get all of the flex you need. Personally, I would go with lockers before the 3-link. Then if you need more, consider it. With a good suspension from RTE and lockers, you'll probably be able to tackle anything within reason for a Disco.
 

jay caragay (Jcaragay)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
From my experience, the RTE stuff is very solid. Good quality and backed up by John. Added to that, the customer service at RTE is excellent. There are numerous stories on Dweb alone about RTE's service and SG's lack of it.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
so brad, are you now leaning more towards rovertym? :)
and i doubt he'll charge you for stickers. LOL

anyone with some RTI numbers?
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
LOL, how about this much flex? The RTI here is off the scale.

http://www.discoweb.org/mattmoe/M4.jpg

Drop me an email and I'll share the secret behind this awesome Flex machine :)
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
moe, its' the damn tire you are wearing there. LOL
if you had a real Mud tire, you'd flex a whole lot more. :)
 

james
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Rovertym...end of story.
 

Brad
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I think I am going to go with Rovertym Does anyone know the complete cost of there lift I think it was around $1800 And does that include the front driveline to. Thanks
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Ho, I threw MTs on and then it flexed like hell. Now I am trying to bring down my awesome RTI score. I think if I add lights and roof rack, it should be about right
 

chrisvonc
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Brad, hopefully some REAL feedback will help you out here.

I run the Stage III kit on my disco and personally have had nothing but problems. I have had the kit 2+ years and like clock work, every other outing, something breaks on it. Now after 2 years of wheeling on the kit, I would expect stuff to start breaking but its been this way since the trucks first trip out. With the exception of my last round of breakages, all have been because the components were not strong enough to handle the pounding the rest of the kit forces on them. Additionally, don't believe that your road handling is going to get better. If anything it will worsen. Reason being is that the kit is too tall for you to use your sway bars unless you custom fab something.

My breakages have been:
- All rear spring retainers,
- Both upper rear shock mounts,
- 4 seperate breakages on all lower shock mounts
- Both of the original fox rear shocks look like boomerrangs now

1/2 of my breakdowns are documented in "The Window" section.

Chris von C
 

Jake Porter
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I went with the Rovertym lift 9012 Rancho in the rear longest travel available to my knowledge and use every inch. If you take a look at the pic Ho Chung provided the top of the rear tire will drop to almost parallel the bottom of the slider. The spring will drop within about a half inch of the bottom of the 5 1/2 cone running 265 / 75 BFG
Rovertym all the way baby...
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
jake, almost like this? :)

http://www.discoweb.org/area511100/P1010216.JPG
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Brad,
First off, I hope you have a lot of money and are skilled with the handtools. Here is a list of components you need to reach a reasonable amount of lift/flex.

-3" Rovertym springs rear
-20.5" Rovertym front springs
-Disco II front shock towers w/ holes cut for shock reservoirs.
-Rovertym custom bottom shock mounts for Bilstein 7100 Series SB shocks.
-Bilstein 7100 Series 12" Short Body shocks on all corners, NOT RANCHOS, THEY SUCK!
-Rear Rovertym Cones
-Rear upper and lower Rovertym Shock mounts
-Rovertym trailing arms for 3" lift.
-Rovertym Radius arms corrected for 3" lift.
-Front AND Rear Double-cardon driveshaft.
-Expedition Exchange or equivalent rear spring retainers.
-Extended front and rear brake lines.
-Steel rims of your choice
-33" tires of your choice
-Probably sheet metal cutting or let tires do it for you.


I probably missed a few things. Add all of these parts up to gather cost of PARTS ONLY. Assuming you do the labor I'm sure this will runs several thousand dollars. This is how my truck is set up.
If I were to do it again. I would go with a 2" lift, 235/85's and front and rear lockers only. This is really all you need. You'll need to upgrade the trailing arms and a few other things, but this should be fine. Then learn to drive. Driver skill is the most important thing, Not how the truck is setup.

All that said, just my opinion.

Larry
 

Robin
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Holy flex, Batman. Lets see a pic.
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I'll try and dig one up.
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Screw being even with the door sill, go below it with 32.7" tires. With RTE setup and Rancho 9005 in the rear..

http://www.discoweb.org/attica2/S_IM000065.jpg
 

Jake Porter
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Yea Yea Thats the ticket great pic Ho Chung.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
jake, but it's not. :)
tire is still hanging. LOL

tom, what pressure were you running in your front tires there in that pic? the front passanger side tire looks pretty deformed.
 

Brad
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
In the front with the Rovertym lift you use a disco II shock tower. Why can't you use a disco 1 shock tower.
 

Kyle
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Tom ,I believe you been beat out by a chick here.... :)http://www.discoweb.org/heather/img122.jpg

http://www.discoweb.org/heather/img130.jpg

Kyle
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Thursday, May 09, 2002 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Beat by a chick? I enjoy that.

Tom
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Here are two links to some pictures of my truck. I don't have any really good ones yet this year. But I will soon. I haven't really three wheeled very much yet. In the second picture the tire was barely off of the ground until Bill Burke decided to have some fun with my truck.

http://www.discoweb.org/rrlarrygrubbs/flex.jpg

http://www.discoweb.org/rrlarrygrubbs/Moab2.jpg

Larry
'90 RRC
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Very nice looking ride, Larry!

Tom
 

Anonymous
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 02:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Which bumper do you have? There are two different ones in those pics?
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
>"Assuming you do the labor I'm sure this will runs several thousand dollars. This is how my truck is set up.
If I were to do it again. I would go with a 2" lift, 235/85's and front and rear lockers only. This is really all you need. You'll need to upgrade the trailing arms and a few other things, but this should be fine. Then learn to drive. Driver skill is the most important thing, Not how the truck is setup."

There you go Brad...very well said by Larry G.

and I think Tom & Heather look about even in those pics...:)
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
My first bumper was the "Standard" ARB with an aftermarket AL Skidplate. I then came across a Rovertym blade locally (Thanks Craig, I know your watching) that I could not pass up. I added the Rovertym Skid, which kicks ass and voila! I managed to spend even more money on my already expensive Rover. It never stops.

I think if I quit hanging out at the bulletin boards and quit reading magazines and quit driving my truck and quit off-roading I might stop spending money on my truck.

But that's impossible! Good thing the wife is finally on board... Sorta.

Larry
 

e
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Coilovers :)
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
BIG$ + TIME + PITA = Coilover = Sexy = overpriced for Rover

At least this is my opinion.

Larry
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
let me share something that i've seen happen (really is based on a true story):

once upon a time, there was a stock looking "truck."
little tires, mild lift, no lights, no nothing. but what appeared to be a stock truck had detroit locker rear and TT front. all hidden.

one day, went wheeling at our local spot. the typical trail with some twisting action.

when we got there, the "stocker" encountered the same exact brand and type "truck", but with bigger meaner swamper tires, twisty flexy suspension, shitload of lights, flares, sexy bumper and all. the whole nine... in other words a big SEX machine.

i could see in the owner's face the pride he had in his highly modified truck. and after he saw the stocker i could see it going thru his mind "i'll blow that stocker away....."

onto the trail we go. and of course, the sex machine has to be the leader. :)

the sex machine comes up to a twisty section. up hill, rutted, pretty ugly.
up he goes. or at least tries to. all the machine could do was..... hop hop up and down. he backed down a bit, went at it again, rear axle flexing, dust flying... oh what a sight.
finally after the show, he barely made up the obstacle.

next up is, of course, the stocker.
the owner of the sex machine comes down the hill to watch the stocker give it a shot. he's probably thinking "there's no fucking way this stocker can make up this thing...."

well, you guessed it. the stocker went right up that thing without a wheel spin.

at first, jaws dropped. then soon after i could see on his face "how the fuck did he do that?!!!>>!>!??!?!#@%$@% i paid so much money for all this cool stuff and this stocker blows by?"

like my good friend says all the time: "hero to zero" real fast.
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
ho, i have a bunch of other stories about trucks with a 2" mild lift hung up on the frame rails, not being able to get the front bumper up and over the hump for the body to follow, and others. even think about alex who bent the hell out of his sills through the rovertym sliders when my sills never even touched.

not saying better or worse. i have to agree with larry, mucho expensive and sexy doesn't always getting through more, but sometimes it does. and going with less sometimes wins, and sometimes it doesn't.

tom
 

chrisvonc
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
For all the $$ that the kit costs, I have yet to see it offer any advantage over a 2" lift truck besides better photo ops. For real funtionallity on an everyday driver, save yourself big $$ and just go 2".
 

Brad
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
How does it handle off road and is the extra 1" lift worth the extra money. Can you with the 2" lift get it to handle better or just as good with the right springs. If the 3" lift is better how much better. How does the 2" ramp compared to the 3" with the same size tires.
 

Brad
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
does anyone know about scorpion racing and if there suspension kit is good it looks pretty good. Also does anyone know what there email address is.
 

jay caragay (Jcaragay)
Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
The Sex Machine or The Stocker? Oh, the humanity!

How about the Sex Machine with the lockers - now that would be ideal. Perhaps similar to Ron Jeremy an over 40 Sex Machine who's still pumping...
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 12:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
tom, i have yet to see that happen in places like lil rubicon,. :P

yes, of course clearance is an issue. but if i got the stealth machine, i can afford to pick lines and avoid some rocks under the frame.

and let's face it, after all the sex you can get, or can't, you'll want lockers anyways.

jay, oh yeah, if you got the cash, go for it. :)

brad, go with the heart. seems to me you got the itch for some sex machine action, and the scorpion thing may just fit the bill.
JUST DO IT! it dont' really matter as long as you do something.
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
How about this ? I have done some thinking on it and come to this conclusion. If you wanna impress others (People who havnt really seen the light yet) then by all means spend all the cash you can and get the droopiest slinkiest suspension and related components you can get , just short of going broke. If you wanna impress yourself , go minimal with strategiic upgrades. ITs really not that complicated of a subject and thats kinda why it doesnt get talked over and over here anymore.
As far as what Tom has to say there. He is right if you are talking about playgrounds or just having fun somewhere. But in real situations on real trails , your brain can ussually make up for that lack of an extra 1" in lift. My truck for example is great for local playground stuff but starts to suffer on real trails because of the lift. Once I get the bitch all loaded down and ready for travel that lift seems to hurt more then it helps most times. Its pissing me off on the highway and its pissing me off in serious off camber situations. Ofcourse I smile when I can get up a big ledge or something but there is a price to pay for that one big ledge...

Kyle
 

John
Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Brad, from your questions it appears you are just entering this Rover offroad world. If so, you need to stay to basics(2" OME lift and shocks,235-85 tires)and get that offroad experience under your belt wheeling with friends with minimal expense.Thats invaluable.You will find your comfort level with that experience and either like where you are at or decide you want to go furthur. If you want to go furthur you can make personal good decisions with your gained experience. Stock,stealth or sex, the driver's experience and ability makes your rig work right for you how ever it's set up.
Larry, you sound as though you have misgivings about your truck's set-up. Ship the parts back and I will re-imburse you for the parts. Your decision.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Saturday, May 11, 2002 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
"How does it handle off road and is the extra 1" lift worth the extra money. Can you with the 2" lift get it to handle better or just as good with the right springs."

Let's put it this way: A good driver in a stock Disco can outdrive a bad driver in modified Disco any day. Learn to walk before you try to run. Listen to John. Start with the basics.

"If the 3" lift is better how much better. How does the 2" ramp compared to the 3" with the same size tires."

Who cares about ramping? Put the biggest ATV wheels you can find on a John Deere lawn mover and it will get a better RTI than any truck out there. What does that prove? Absolutely nothing. RTI is bullshit, how your truck handles in real life is what matters.
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Amen Axle.

Brad, if I were you, I would buy a base to move forward with. 32' tires, Gears, HD Axles, lockers, protection, winch and a basic suspension lift. Then, if you need more, simply swap out the spring and shock upgrade. You can even get buy to start with just a set of springs to make up for the weight and keep the stock shocks.

This way, if you find that you get through everything you want to get through, you are way ahead of the game. Otherwise, you can upgrade to a more flexable and longer travel suspension setup.

I would buy stuff from RoverTym, as he stands behind them and the springs give you a true lift after the bumpers, sliders, etc.

I would stay away from the 3-link. I have never used it or even seen it on a Disco, but I have heard so many negative things about them on Disco's that it just doesn't make sense when you can buy RoverTym stuff to pretty much get the same front flex. Getting rear flex out of a disco is just plain easy.

Who needs the expense and risk of a 3 link when RTE can set you up to do this? http://www.rovertym.com/wheeling/11.jpg

Tom
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
stick with the ome set up. if you want more lift after that you can buy some spring spacers or get john's body lift.

rd
 

Manuel Sandoval (Manuels)
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Brad,

Stay stock. Learn how to drive.

That's what I am doing now.
 

Brad
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I can drive pretty good I go out every week, I want the hieght because I am tired of getting stuck in ruts that If I have 2" in tire hieght I wouldn't get stuck and I also hit my sliders all the time and want to get rid of that. Also lockers thou For in the ruts that is a guarantee With every thing else. I am asking what type of suspension because I want to know how everyone elses handles compared to an OME one, or any other kind.
 

Larry Grubbs (Larryg)
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Well John called me out. Don't get me wrong I do love my setup! I wouldn't change very much at all. It is a hell of a lot of fun in Moab and many other places. It makes some hard trails very easy. However it has taken a lot of work to get it to that point. Trial and error cost money.
You could EASILY spend more than $8000 trying to obtain my setup, not including tires and rims and labor. And I am only running 235/85 tires! And it is not the most extreme by far! This IS a Range Rover Classic after all, not a Defender which can cost more when you add 35" tires and start breaking things all the time, expensive things at that. This is why you don't see too many Land Rovers competing in the Rock Crawling stuff, their just too expensive to do that with. But I still think they are way cooler than Heaps.

However for the same amount of money I have dumped into my truck a buddy of mine took his '02 TJ and built a killer rockcrawler with 36" Swampers and all the goodies to go with it. But "That's not my sort of bag Baby!"

Basically everyone else has summed it up. Start small then work your way up. If you try and start big with no Rover experience it could easily add up to more than

BTW John, I don't want to return anything and will probably buy more stuff because I am an addict and their currently is no "Betty Ford" clinic for the Rover Addiction!

This turned out to be a pretty good thread.

Larry
 

JRoc
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Safari Guard's customer service sucks!
Rovertym's customer service is incredible!

To me customer service is VERY important!

John actually talked me out of a product they make, that I didn't really need. How many people would do that??? He now has a customer for life!

If you want to compare, I'd be choosing between Rovertym and OME. OME makes Super Heavy Duty Springs and the amount of lift you get should be comparable to Rovertym's 3" lift. I'd be a little weary about raising a Rover too much though, the drivetrain seems to really like being very close to stock. More than a 2" lift is not always as easy as just changing the springs. However, some trucks seem to have a problem with even a mild lift. I suspect bad bushings have a lot to do with that.

Good Luck either way you go. But remember, these trucks are awsome right outta the box!!! Enjoy.
 

Mel A.
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Just to add to the confusion:
A 2-inch lifted Disco (auto tranny) with 235/85-16's and stock gearing is technically downgrading isn't it? It will just make your drivetrain weaker and your low range higher. Which means, lots of braking when going downhill and lots of gas going up. Both of these, if done excessively, could break some shit. This is the situation I am in. I want to get a lift and bigger tires, but I don't have enough $$ for gears, HD axles, lockers. So the lift (w/ 235-85's) would give the Disco the "look", but in reality it will perform worse than stock off-road. My clearance will be greater, but so will the chance of breaking stuff from gassing it over obstacles. Now I am looking into 245/75�s and a 2 inch �non sexy� lift to keep some of that performance. I have a 5-speed and I heard that it helps, anybody have an opinion on this? Is the trade off worth it?
 

Dr. Ruth
Posted on Sunday, May 12, 2002 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Brad, I think everyones difficulty in giving you specific answers is because you come across as having a current stock susp.(maybe an OME 2" lift) ,its your first endeavor at 4 wheeling, and you want to add height by lift and tires to drive thru the ruts solely due to what you consider is added muscle. Your questions show inexperience in understanding what does it takes to drive thru a rut as opposed to just turn it into a John Deere. So as everyone reads your post they see a 22 year old guy with his first Disco and actually everyone wants to help because we have all "been there" and learned more from hindsight as opposed to listening to our peers. If you have the money which it sounds like thats not a concern, then just do it. You will be on this list in a year telling people like yourself to heed your words of wisdom, or have upgraded to a Scorpion by then.
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
you people are a godsend..much valuble knowlege has been gained. I might be finally getting a Disco 98 LE with the LSE package. nice truck. When welding the RTE shock mounts cones etc. what do yall do TIG or a STICK I have access to both which is the best for the application? thanks for all fo the usefull information
 

Brad
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Thanks for all the info thou I think I am just going to do everything I want to do and Just go all out. I'm not 22 yrs old thou I am 19. I want to be able to drive threw the roughts because I have been stuck up to my frame with all four tyres off the ground. and if you go to the right or left of the trail there is another 2 foot rut.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Do what you wish, but in the end you will just get stuck in a deeper rut farther down the trail instead..... :)
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Axel:
At least he'll get past the first rut and hopefully get out to scout the next one and will by then have been wheeling enough to know that discretion is truly the better part of valor!

With any luck, he'll be smarter than I was when last posed with this question. After turning around, I backed into a tree! Didn't get stuck, but mashed my tire carrier!

Paul
 

RVR OVR (Tom)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Phillip,

Check my write up in the tech section. No welding needed for the RTE stuff. At least not unless something has changed.

http://www.discoweb.org/rte/index.htm

Tom

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