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Brad (Brad_N)
Posted on Friday, May 17, 2002 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My 96 disco (4.0) stopped working today.

This is what happened. I drove down the road about 1 mile, afdter placing the car in reverse, it stalled out. I did not hear hte fuel pump start when I turned ont eh key. I usally hear a humming sound form the fuel tank. I waited for a few minutes & tried again. I hear the pump start. car started but died after a few seconds. I have not heard the pump start ever since. I picked up a relay from Rovers North just in case it was that. (it was a small square one that goes under the passenger side kick plate). I ckecked the voltage at the pump it was at most 5 volts. RN said it should be 12v.

What could be the cause of the low voltage. I bet if it has 12 volts the car would start. am I wrong??

Where do I go from here? Could it be the relay module under the bonnet? How can I check to see if that is still good?


Thanks

Brad
 

jp
Posted on Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Check the volts at the relay socket if they are low, there is a problem before the relay, If they are 12V coming in, there is a bad connection between the relay output and the pump. There is a common history of bad connections in a wiring connector near the tank - see if you can follow the wire from the tank connector towards the front - (I think it runs down the RH chassis rail) looking for a joint of some sort. You can test volts along the wire with a pin through the casing, if you jumper the pump relay socket so the pumps runs continuously (30->87 should do it). As soon as you find 12V, you know there is a problem rearwards of that point.
Is you 5V measured at the tank connector, with it pulled off the tank?
jp
 

Brad (Brad_N)
Posted on Saturday, May 18, 2002 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have check the volts at the relay and I have 12v. Also I have check the volts at the pump withteh wires connected and not conected. Both are reading about 5v. I also traced the wires from the pump to the first connector and also have 5v there. I am going to trace the wires all the back to teh front if need be. Could the main relay be bad thus not providing enough volts to teh pump?

thanks

brad
 

Buddy
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The only thing bad is your typing.
 

isaac
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

whoa there! - this is sounding familiar. make sure you have the right lead! I thought I was only getting around 4 volts to my fuel pump, when I discovered that I was in fact measuring a hot fuel-level sender wire, instead of the actual pump lead.

you should only see 12v's for 1 second after turning the ignition on. Measure at the fuse-box first, to make sure you are getting the righ voltage from the box, and then from the rear.

good luck,

isaac / seattle / 91 RR "Gatsby"
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Monday, May 20, 2002 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Be careful with piercing the insulation to do your testing. There was an anecdote of somebody finding (after paying a few truck payments in dealer labor) that the points where the insulation had presumably been pierced for testing had corroded badly and made things worse.

Paul
 

Brad (Brad_N)
Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2002 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It ended up being the MFU located next to the washer fluid tank.

And to the guy who commented on my spelling, "BITE ME"

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