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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can anybody tell me were I can purcase 4.10 ring and pinion. I don't want to purchase ashcroft ?($600.00). This seems steep. Installing ARB'S soon and would love toe change ratio. Thanks !!
 

Ron
Posted on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

discountrovers

3something each (you will need two)

Ron
 

Keith Frank
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Great Basin Rovers
Bill also has reverse rotation front gear sets.
801-486-5049
Keith
 

Ron A
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I believe you are referring to �reverse cut gears� as opposed to �standard cut gears�. This is just means of fabricating the gears and doesn�t mean they actually rotate the opposite way.

Ron A
 

Randall Smith
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Going from 3.54 to 4.11 reduces the strength of the ring and pinion because there is less tooth engagement to spread the torque across. So you should be looking for stonger parts than the original, not just trying to save money.

About a month ago I got the reverse cut 4.11s from GBR. This helped get my speedometer to read more accuratly with the larger tires. I also have better engine braking. And most importantly...it just feels right. Truck accellerates much easier, regardless of which gear the transmission is in. Before I used to drive around town in 3rd gear a lot, and would manually shift beteen 4th and 3rd frequently. Now it is a rariety that I even think about downshifting. There is no novelty effect to regret later, it drives like it should with these gears.

I also adjusted my kickdown cable(did this years ago to my RRC and have never looked back)so that the auto trans downshifts like a normal car. One reason that people think that Rovers are slow is because the downshift cable is set so conservatively. In any other car if you even think about going faster, the trans shifts to second and the engine goes to 5000rpms.

Randall
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Randall,
what size tyres you be running? hmmmmmm, tell us more on this kickdown cable adjustment, please.
mike w
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

k2

"Kickdown Cable Adjustment"
k3

From the service manual. Full size image is 131kb.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

k2
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Kickdown Cable Adjustment"
k3
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

damn parental controls....

k3
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

thanks blue!
mike w
ps how does this make a real differences?
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

This cable controls when the automatic transmission downshifts. You know how nothing seems to happen when you're cruising and you push the pedal down a bit further in a vain attempt to accelerate? If you tweak the kickdown cable a bit, then something will actually happen (autobox will downshift).
 

Randall Smith
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mr Watson

Ihave a 92RR with 245/75 tires. Before if he speedo said 60, I was actually going ~70(it read low even with stock tires). By reducing the gear ratio, I am now going ~55 when it says 60. Some day there will be 265s on my truck, and speedo should be dead on.

On my RR there is a little metal tab on the kickdown cable(close to where all the throttle linkages are). By loosening the locknuts and adjusting the gap so that it is 5mm, instead of 1mm, the kickdown performs like a normal car. Do not adjust too far, or it wont upshift into 4th.

Or another way of saying it: On a RRC, change the gap to 5mm. Test to see how well it works for you. It costs nothing to make the another adjustment.

Randall
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

or you can just pull the gearshift down into 3rd or 2nd.

rd
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

then it's not very automatic, is it?
 

Kyle
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The upshifts are stacked on rovers as well. The TV cable is certainly set too loose..

Kyle
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

ahh, was that why the corolla felt like had more juice than the disco? LOL
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, but you'll feel bad ass moving the stick, man..
 

p m
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

rob, i must be feeling bad ass all day rowing with that rangie's stick... otoh, i recall now that i did the same with all automatics i had.

peter
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i enjoyed repeatedly dropping my loaner ford contour into 2nd on the highway just to see if any parts appeared in my rearview mirror last week :)
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"TV cable"....i have a sat. dish!
mike w






so sorry could not resist!
 

Kyle
Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

lol , "Throttle Valve" Mike...... :)

Kyle
 

Roverine
Posted on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

yeah, I was kind of wondeing what kind of TV cable could be in there, LOL ;-)

Kim
just trying to learn ...
 

Greg Davis
Posted on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Can the kick-down be adjusted on a DSII, or am I stuck with a slug?

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