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John Kruger (Johnnyk)
Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What mechanical spares do you carry?

This is my short list:
Fuses
Light bulbs
Fuel Pump
Water Pump
axles
drive shaft
02 Sensor
Serpentine Belt
Replacement Fluids
Oil Filter
Air Filter
Fuel Filter

John
 

Mike B.
Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't carry anything that won't leave me stranded (I never wheel alone). From your list, I'd remove the O2 sensors and light bulbs.

I carry ujoints rather than a complete drive shaft. I don't carry a fuel filter or fuel pump either. I've never had either one go out in the field.

I don't carry a water pump either. The chances of them going out is low and it's a mighty big job to do in the field.

I'm trying to take a minimalist approach to this. I try to carry as little gear as possible. I carry fluids, sepertine belt, spark plugs, wires, oil and air filters, windshield wiper refills, and ujoints.

I also carry lots of different sealants:
Quick Steel for holes in the diff and gas tank
Quick Plastic Repair for everything else
High Temp RTV sealant
Thermosteel (for the exhaust manifold)
Exhaust repair tape (for holes in the muffler, etc.)
Dielectric grease
WD40
Alumaseal - for the unfortunate radiator leaks
Loctite
JB Weld
Tire repair kit (tire plugs)
Odd bits of wire
Electrical Tape
Duct Tape - LOTS - To fix everything else!

This way, I'm only carrying about 40 lbs of repair gear versus the 200+ lbs I would be.

Thanks,
Mike B.

The extra hassle of carrying stuff for what I do does not seem worth it. I think it depends on the kind of wheeling you do. I'm willing to live with the thought that on occasion, someone is going to have to tow me.

Thanks,
Mike B.
 

Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mike,

What exactly is Thermosteel?
 

Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 04:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just an 'Automobile Association' membership card. Valid throughout the whole of Europe!
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Never had a fuel pump go out in the field!

Seems like every other trip someone loses one around here.

Ron
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

After years of flying around in helicopters, I learned that it is very important to carry along basic things for the "just in case." That's the mentality I maintain for Rover Fun.

In one bag, I keep:

Various hand tools
Duct & Electrical Tape
Razor blade
Electrical Wire

I will be adding some type of RTV / Sealant for my next outing. During the Assateague trip; one of the D1's cracked an overflow resevoir along the inboard seam. I was impressed how common RTV and duct tape held everything together for the owner to include the trip home. Incidently, this occurred down on the Virginia / Maryland border of the beach.

On the other hand; at Uwharrie I saw the complete opposite. There was a Defender there that experienced Rear Diff / Rock interface problems. Anyway, those folks broke out welders, air tools, and whatever you could think of. I looked to see if a Snap-On truck was hiding in the woods because they had everything.
 

muskyman
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"On the other hand; at Uwharrie I saw the complete opposite. There was a Defender there that experienced Rear Diff / Rock interface problems. Anyway, those folks broke out welders, air tools, and whatever you could think of. I looked to see if a Snap-On truck was hiding in the woods because they had everything."


why do you think this guy had rear diff problems?

could it be because he was carring an extra 1000lbs of shit?

I used to carry everything...everthing weighs alot and alot puts more stress on your drivline on every obstacle you cross.




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Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Musky,

Very very good point.

LOL Paul
 

John Kruger (Johnnyk)
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I would agree with most, weight is a consideration, but so is time. My list of spares changes depending upon the distance I am traveling. The items I listed, weigh under 100lbs, the fluids are the heaviest/bulkiest items and are usually left at home because they are the easiest to obtain.

I had a waterpump fail in the middle of no-where, and it took 4 days to get the vehicle back up and running. Fastest shipping was 2 day delivery.

It is no fun loosing 4 days out of a 7 day vacation.

John
 

muskyman
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"I would agree with most, weight is a consideration, but so is time. My list of spares changes depending upon the distance I am traveling. The items I listed, weigh under 100lbs, the fluids are the heaviest/bulkiest items and are usually left at home because they are the easiest to obtain.

I had a waterpump fail in the middle of no-where, and it took 4 days to get the vehicle back up and running. Fastest shipping was 2 day delivery.

It is no fun loosing 4 days out of a 7 day vacation."

john

your list looks pretty good, similar to what I carry in my scout these days. add flares and a first aid kit,and an alternator and its nearly identicle.

my point was the guys with air tools and the like, that stuff gets really heavy really fast. add in food extra fuel 3 people and a dog and now your gonna need those extra axels every trip.
 

Matt
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Paul are you a chopper pilot??

If so, so am I. Let me know.

Matt
 

Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey Matt,

A&P mechanic and Fixed wing pilot yes, chopper pilot no. I amassed 2000 hours as a helo crewchief during my time in the Corps. Now I play with tilt-rotor airplanes, which I must say is a kick ass way to fly. Everywhere we went, I carried a preflight tool kit and consumables like packings, debris sensors, switches, etc....

Musky has the right idea about packing with common sense.

Paul out....
 

LR Max
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Muskyman,

The "Diff/rock interface problem" D-90 wasn't carrying a whole lot. The guy that was following him had just about everything you could ever find in a snap-on truck. This is the rig here.

Max T.
 

LR Max
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Forgot to add, the same rig that had "the problem" is here. They just happen to be on the same website.

Max T.
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It does weigh alot but when you need it , its PRICELESS. On our long trips I carry every damned thing I can. A water pump is easy to install in the woods and will shut you down fast if it fails. It aint a bad idea. Packing the shit is the art...

Kyle
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes Kruer , I am ageeing with you,,,,,,,this time.. :)

Kyle
 

Mike B.
Posted on Friday, June 07, 2002 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

What is ThermoSteel?

It's made by Cargo Chemical Corp out of TX. It's used to make hi temp repairs to Iron and Steel. I bought it for those pesky exhaust manifolds that seem to keep breaking.

Thanks,
Mike B.

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