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Pete
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 08:08 am: | 
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I have heard that the rear in not anymore. If it isn't then that was a stupid mistake by LR. The DII is heavier than the DI. |
Ron
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 09:31 pm: |
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Yes they are full floating. But you have to pull the hub to get them out. And on the ones I have seen it looks like LR loctited the splines.
Ron |
Eric
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 12:58 am: |
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My understanding is that the Disco II axles are a newer generation design with a lighter weight than the Disco I which improves the unsprung weight and results in a better ride on and off road.
Gear and metalurgy has advanced alot since 89 when the Disco I was put together on the drawing board.
Alot has changed since then. Many new generation axles are sealed for life and never need a lube! Such as the new generation Mustang etc.
But the Disco I axles are still amazing, and in either case you will notice that one of the hot aftermarket upgrades for Jeep products is "floating axles" which are standard on LR.
Eric |
Ron
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 01:14 am: |
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"Gear and metalurgy has advanced alot since 89 when the Disco I was put together on the drawing board."
Ha! Land rover has been using the design on the disco since the 1930s.
Ron |
Tate (Tate)
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 09:25 am: |
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Ron,
How is this possible since Land Rover hasn't been around but since 1948? :-) |
Randall smith
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 10:31 am: |
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Question: What does full floating axle mean?, and what are the advantages/disadvantages??
On my RR I have the GBR HD axle on the rear, with the screw on hub cap. This weekend I am going to replace my front axles/CVs with new ones from LR. On the front they have a circlip and shims at the hub, with a rubber cap.
Randall |
p m
| | Posted on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 12:16 pm: |
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Randall, are you asking this question or answering it?
just in case you're asking it - full floating means that the axleshaft only bears the torsional load, not bending+torsion like in a semi-floater axle. Example - ALL front axles are full-floating.
regardless of the cap design, your RR's axles are full floating.
peter |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 11:11 pm: |
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Ron, any Idea why LocTite on the spline? I was just looking at the service manual and they call for it but no reason why.
Another issue with the DiscoII axles is that they are press fit into the hubs and have a drive shaft nut that's torqued to 360 lb/ft! Not like the older field repair-able axles. |
Ron
| | Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 12:23 am: |
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I should have said Rover. Yes LAND rover has been around since 48 but Rover used the same spiral bevel differential design still in use on DIIs starting in the 1930s. There was a slight change in the pinion length in 1949ish and obviously the 24 spline upgrade in 1993, but its esentially the same differential and with a little creativity you can swap parts.
I dunno why on the loctite. Weird, almost like they were trying to avoid any slack from the hubs to the splines?
Ron |
jp
| | Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 06:03 am: |
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Slack in the splines will eventually wear them and produce noises, and even more wear. Also leaks oil.
Yes, at least up to D1 axles, you could put almost any Rover diff centre in back to the 30s. This would give you ratios of 4.7, 4.3, 3.9, with some changes in pinion length. The 3.9 might be of use to some people - look for a dead P5 sedan for those.
jp |
Milan
| | Posted on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 01:48 pm: |
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Wouldn't the locktite be there more to prevent the flange from separating from the axleshaft, should the nut loosen? It seems to me like the flange is pressed on a bit if the nut has to be torqued so much. |
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