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Eric Brodis (Broder)
Posted on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have a friend of mine with a Lexus (Really a Toyota FJ80) and his mechanic recommented rotating cv joints(moving cv from passenger side to drivers side) . He said it will make them last longer. Has anyone done this with a rover?
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Think about it this way, if you are going to the trouble to open up the hub, are you really going to put used parts back in?

I think somebody is either pulling your leg or mining somebody for labor charges. How could you confirm the work was actually done?

Given the cost of labor to open up both hubs, the incremental cost of two CV joints would be minimal.

Replace, don't rotate.

Paul
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

just do it!

dont forget to change the air in your tires every 3000 miles as well
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Rotate CV joints every 3000 miles? Please tell me you're kidding.

Paul
 

Dee
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Musky replacing the wiper blades will help...

Man thats a good scam, sort of like a chain of brake and lube stores in California. They were cought RR brake calipers and all that was realy done to them was externaly cleaned and painted no new seals or hone or pistons replaced and then the realy bad part they were charging the customers for new ones at a higer markup than the MFG suggested retail for a new caliper. Also undercutting rotors and charging for new ones.

I am glad i learned to do all my own work years ago...

A rule of thumb in california if english is a second language in the shop you take your car to. you better get religious.

I had a friend just call me His mechanic wanted 300 to put a new seal on the steering box. 4 hours labor @ 75 per. To change the box is 3.0 if you slow and take a lunch
 

Milan
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

On open knuckle axles we not only swap the u-joints side to side every 3000 miles but we turn them upside down for extended life.

You could also try driving in reverse for couple of months to put stress on the axleshafts and CVs in the other direction.

LOL
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

>"dont forget to change the air in your tires every 3000 miles as well"

>"On open knuckle axles we not only swap the u-joints side to side every 3000 miles but we turn them upside down for extended life."

>"You could also try driving in reverse for couple of months to put stress on the axleshafts and CVs in the other direction."


you're killin me :)
 

Dee
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK i am laughing too loud somone will think i like working here.

I had a neighbor who would jack his car up and align the valve stems, He thought that was how to rotate the tires, Honest another Mensa candidate there..
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I'll admit that sometimes I rotate the little land rover center caps on my castor alloys so they're all level. It helps me sleep at night.
 

gp (Garrett)
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i make sure my beer bottle labels are facing perfectly forward. like little soldiers.

center caps? my god. what happens when you peel out? they are all off then. oh wait we drive discos.

:)
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL Garrett. When I stock the fridge, all labels face forward too! Little soldiers patiently waiting to fight the good fight. Too many years working in bars to do it any other way. Drives the wife nuts...

I don't drive the Disco anymore for fear of ruining the delicate center cap balance. I really have to get a handle on this OCD...
 

Milan
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"I'll admit that sometimes I rotate the little land rover center caps on my castor alloys so they're all level. It helps me sleep at night. "

Hehehe. Whatever works to make you sleep better. I don't want to make you worry but in addition to leveling the center caps, you should make sure the spokes on the castors are aligned as well. Although I heard somewehere that they can be out of phase front to back. However, if they're not aligned left to right you may experience a little vibration or worse pull to one side due to the gyroscopic effect of the out of phase wheel. I found a little trick - if you line up the valve stems, the spokes will be very closely aligned. So I think Dee's neighbor was onto something here.
 

Dee
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Too funny, I prefer the wife to rotate my little cap to help me sleep at night...
 

Milan
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dee,
I would've thought she'd turn the knob on, not rotate the cap. Maybe you have the two confused. ;)
 

Dee
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL,

Milan, hows life treating you up north?

Cheers

Dee
 

Milan
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Life is OK. I got the tires on Friday (went for 32x11.50 MT/Rs) but have not installed them yet. I have too many preparations to do for Jeep Jamboree next month - blown rear TrueTrac, have to repack bearings, bleed brakes, need both driveshafts rebuilt, rocker panel protection installed, rear panhard modified and I need an alignment. I have torn a biceps tendon in my right arm and could not even hammer the diff carrier in after I took it apart for inspection.

So I guess the Disco will have to wait till August.

How's your stuff going?
 

Dee
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dam i though my list of too doos was long, Trying to sell my Old Motor home and the base to the Fridge is rotted out. I had a new Fridge installed last year and the SOB did not replace it as i had requested. That is why i try to do all my own work. I hope your arm heals i can relate.

I finaly have my rims again i got to hold onto a set and stop selling them off, i just need to finish the lift, the 2" OME wont do
 

Milan
Posted on Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That's rotten! I mean that rotted out floor.

Are you doing RTE 3"? Maybe we should take this off-line - email me.
 

Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

An old girlfriend of mine took her mustang to the shop for a wheel alignment, they told her she had wet tie-rod ends. She actually paid for this!!!
 

Dee
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ive heard that term, I thought it ment the rubber boot covers were rotted and the grease is exposed ?

Dee
 

Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It might actually be a real term - however, in this case, they 'removed the tie-rods and dried them for her'
 

Dee
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

RR tie rods to dry them, Must have been a former Sears or Mickey Ward's Mechanic...
 

Ali
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Isn't it true that the left side CV normally wears/breaks more than the right side under stress? So if that's the case, rotating from left to right does make sense somewhat, given everything will fit. Hell why not?
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Why not? Because you're putting a half-worn part back in. A critical half-worn part at that.

What does a CV joint cost, $150 if you shop around. At that price, it's worth it to me to replace it after tearing the front end down and while I'm at it, new swivel bearings, thrust washer and set pre-load.

With apologies to Ho, "JUST DO IT" (I wish I knew how to do the cute cheerleader icon thing...
 

Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Dee

Kind of hard to blame the mechanic - you would have to know the girl first!
 

Dee
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 04:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

DITO, I am lazy and rework really buggs me, I never like to use used mechaincal and electrical parts unless a "new" is no longer available. If is a trail repair then any thing goes.. CV for that price way too hight if you ever need them call Merdian and ask for Brian
 

Kyle
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually , stressing a part backwards will break it faster. :)

Kyle
 

Dee
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I wonder how many new CV joints does that F40J wrench do in repair of the swaps he first advises?

If there werent so many suckers out there there would not be as many intresting stories on the net
 

Milan
Posted on Wednesday, June 19, 2002 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"Actually , stressing a part backwards will break it faster. "

Zzzzzactly.

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