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Emilio 98 Disco
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey everyone. I got my OME HD springs now I need the shocks. I removed the sway bars so I was wondering which shock would be best for my setup. Could you please (If you know it ) specify the part number. It seems everywhere I go I'm told that there is no listing for the Disco.
Thanks
Emilio
 

Ron
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Black diamond XT. Had them all and thats my first choice.

:)

Ron
 

Emilio 98 Disco
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

are they expensive (say in comparison to rancho's)?
 

Ron
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think they are factionally less than 9000s.

Ron
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2002 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah, but where do you find them, Ron??

:)


-L
 

Ron
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They are back out.

call around and you will find them. They were spun off from warn.

Ron
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmmm.....

Only places I've seen them are UK shops...

If they're back, though, I'll start a lookin'....


Do you have the model numbers to use for a Disco?

Thx!


-L
 

Anonymous
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just called about Black Diamonds for my RR $52 ea . They are not listed at www.blackdiamondoffroad.com . I didn't get a part # they were for a 0-1" lift, they didn't have a 2"+ shock ,but said the XT should be fine for my OME hd springs (2" lift) . I would either get these or OME's from EE if I were to change my current setup.
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have Black Diamond XT's all around on my RTE 2" lifted 95 Disco. Don't have the model numbers off-hand, but can get them at lunch probably. Very nice shocks, but I got them from the UK, couldn't find the correct numbers stateside (this was about 9 months ago). They are the same size as the stock woodheads though, so if you are looking for a shock that will give you a lot more length for flex, these aren't it. They also fit all the stock mount locations, so no changes necessary.

Robbie
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.discoweb.org/petersmill/DCP_0197.jpg
 

LarryG
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go with Bilsteins and never look back. Ten times the shock that Rancho or Black Diamond make.

IMHO
Larry
 

LarryG
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

P.S. Rancho's do suck. I just replaced them with Bilstein's. Had to cut the Rancho's off. It was kind of fun. I had the Rancho 9000's. Could never seem to find the right "setting" for the shocks. Truck either wondered the road or I was riding like I was in a tank. Bilstein fixed all of that.

Larry
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My experience with Ranchos wasn't bad... BUT! It was with Rancho 5000s on a FSJ... although the 5000s are considered stiff, with the weight that the big Jeep had, it rode well.

The Woodheads on my Disco are feelin' their age now. I had decided to go with Bilsteins, as although I wish all of my drive-time was offroad, I'm usually commuting to-n-from work on the highway. The OMEs seemed 'squishy'... I think they'd be great if I was only doing local drives to the trail then staying off-road a lot more, but I don't think that I'd like them on the highway. Note: I'm running 245/75R16s with a stock suspension.... I'm not planning on any BIG lift, defintely not anything over 2". For now, I'm staying stock, and 'may' go with some custom RTE springs aiming for 1" of lift instead of even a full 2". That's why I was thinking Bilsteins, and why them instead of OME.

But, I'm not sold on Bilsteins yet. I'm shying away from Rancho 9000s, because a) I'm not going to bother to install the in-cab adjustable setup, and I don't want tocrawl under there and flip them manually... I'd much rather have a 'simple' shock.

So, I'll consider the XTs, at least....

-L
 

JRoc
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

"The OMEs seemed 'squishy'"
OME sells different models, some are firmer than others. Don't know what the model numbers are, but I'm sure someone else on this board does. I was in the same boat and was told that OME has a shock that's almost as firm as Bilsteins. I opted for the Bilsteins and absolutely love em! I can't speak about off-road performance because I haven't had the chance yet, but on-road is shockingly better than the stock woodheads. Why Land Rover doesn't offer this on the Disco is beyond me??? I also changed the springs at the same time and went with OME Heavy's. As I said I love this setup but was also considering the OME shocks when I was looking. Between these two (Bilstein, OME) I don't think there's a bad decision to be made. Both are great shocks and MUCH MUCH better than those damn woody's! Good Luck.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

LOL...

The other hit against the OME is the lack of a lifetime guarantee. I'm the kind of guy that takes the worn-out bits out, puts 'em in a box, and will take them back to trade them in for newer ones. Bilsteins, yes; OME, no. If OME was significantly less than Bilstein, for the same level of performance, then I might be more tempted. If the XT shocks are as good as Ron says, AND cost less than the Ranchos or OME or Blisteins, then even w/o a lifetime warranty, they'd be an okay buy.

Something else to mull....

:)

-L
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leslie - fyi - Bilstein nixes the warranty for off-road use (if they can prove it). I've got some pretty good rock rash on two Bilstins, but they're still kickin!

Bill
 

Robbie Donaldson (Robbie)
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Warn Black Diamond XT model numbers for Disco series 1.
front - 788029/70378
rear - 788028/70377
 

Emilio 98 Disco
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I appreciate the feed back guys. If the Diamonds are as long as the stock shock then that defeats the purpose of my lift, so I definately won't be getting those.
Bilstien it is
what is the model number for the Bilstien's ?
Thanks
Emilio
 

Cal
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Call Bill at greatbasinrovers.com. Good prices on the shocks and great customer service.
 

Ron
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am 99% sure the black diamond XTs I have are 10in shocks (2in longer than stock). Black diamond ATs are stock length.

I am just relaying my experience. My feel is that they have the initial give (light compression) but have really excelent control
(stiff extention). Makes for an exceptional ride. Also, in looking at them they are stronger and larger than anything else.

If someone wants to call and ask or if someone has a 1999 warn catalog you can find the PNs. when we got them they were listed for a 2in lift.

Ron
 

Ron
Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

They had lifetime warantee when we got them too.

Ron
 

Michael Cavender (Mike)
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Warn® Industries recently announced that they are getting out of the suspension business. This means an end of the Black Diamond line of Warn® suspension products, as well as the highly acclaimed eXtreme Coil Link suspension. Warn® further announced that they will continue to support and service parts for Black Diamond products until June, 2005.

For further information, you may contact
Warn Customer Service 800-543-9276
 

alhang
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mike that news is about a year old, another company bought the black diamond line.

check out http://www.blackdiamondoffroad.com/
 

muskyman
Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

that link leads to the ultimate "under construction"

looks like they bought the name...had nothing left for inventory and a web site
 

Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

BILSTIEN BILSTIEN BILSTIEN :)
 

Mel A.
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ron,
Do you think that I can run their XT model( 10inch travel) with RTE springs that are 1 inch taller than stock?
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am going with probably. But it depends on how much lift you actually get from the springs.


Ron
 

Mel A.
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am thinking that the lift will be slightly greater than 1 inch since I don't have a winch bumper or a winch. How long are these shocks compared to the woodhead's? I originally wanted to run N25's with 1 inch springs, but I found out that they are too tall for 1 inch springs.

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