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CarlT
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I feel somewhat like a redneck now driving my DII around after OME lift and 265 went on this weekend! I hope I get used to it...:) It took the better part of Sat. afternoon replacing the front springs and shocks, and was pretty strait forward. I have the SLS, and added OME rear shocks in the rear also. For now I just moded the sensor arm ala GreekRover.

First impressions;
- Damn this thing is high of the ground.(I currently have no front bumper...)
- The ride quality actually improved! Less "float" on the highway and better overall feel with the OME shocks.
- The over inflated SLS bags are a little harder, but not uncomfortable, so I might not just keep it this way instead of going for SLS spacers.
- The truck does suffer a bit due to the bigger tyres. Mostly around 60mph when the truck is in top gear, not much of an issue around town.
- Road noise is less than stock, with the BFG AT.

So next is to put the TJM bumper and Hellas on when it arrives. Hmmm what is next....:)

My wife is going to kill me when she returns from Europe and sees what I've done to her truck....

Carl
Feeling elevated.
 

p m
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

so Carl, now we can go to Hollister when I happen in Bay Area?

just need to check the motocross schedule...

peter
 

chris sharpe (C_M_Sharpe)
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pictures? So did you get the OME shocks & Springs? If so, which ones? Glad to hear the ride is better.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

With the OME rear shocks on the SLS be sure you don't flex your vehicle too much. Whith your vehicle on a jack stand drop one side of the rear axle and look at the base of the SLS bag to see what I'm talking about.
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Al is right. The stock shocks prevent the air bags from being ripped apart at full extension. The longer OME shocks can let the axle drop too far. The remedy is bag spacers.

Curtis
 

CarlT
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Al & Curtis

The OME shock is only a 1" longer I'm told, still and issue? I had the rear axel drop all the way down with the wheels off, and I can't see that there would be a problem....


Chris

I went for the 107 and 108 shocks. I went for the 779 springs as I won't be getting a winch for a while and though the 751 might be a little much. Not sure if that was a sound choice or not... But I can always change'm later.

Carl
 

Chu
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl,

I think you made a good choice. My wife didn't even notice my lift until I told here about it. :)

I always felt that the stock height with stock tires looked like a lowrider. You got this big truck with those low profile tires and all that aerodynamics up front.

I'd like to see what your truck looks like once you get the new bumper. Keep us posted!
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl,

I can't say this for sure, but my LR tech said that the SLS rear shocks are actually a tad shorter than the coil sprung versions. Are you getting your 1" from your actual measurements or from a write-up somewhere?

Either way, the shocks are what limits the rear wheel travel. In a coil sprung truck this is not an issue because the worst that could happen is a spring popping out. The bags are bolted top and bottom. I would like to think that LR engineered the shocks to allow the bags to go to max extension. If that is the case...you tell me if 1" is too long :)

People have run the OME shocks on SLS "tricked" vehicles with no problems. I would not do it without spacers though.

Curtis
 

CarlT
Posted on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Curtis

I find that wierd, as my ACE truck with SLS has more rear articulation that a stock rear springer. So this leads me to think that the shock is the same or not an issue. I was hoping that the swaybar would be the limiting factor... But what to I know, I just drive the thing. I'll test it on the trail and see what happens. Hopefully I won't make it far before it blows hehehehe

Carl
 

Curtis N (Curtis)
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl,

Admittedly, I don't know much about what ACE will throw into this mix. Still, it is important not to equate downward wheel travel with articulation. Articulation is the ability of one wheel to go up with the opposing wheel going down. And yes, an ACE vehicle can articulate better because it effectively has no sway bar.

I hope all goes well on the trail test. You may want Al's post again and follow his reccomendation to look at the base of the spring at full drop. Just a suggestion.

Curtis
 

Clif Ashley (Cta586)
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl, I was wondering where you got your TJM front bumper, which model, and if you don't mind, what you paid for it. Thank you very much.
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl, before Rovertym came out with the spacers I put in a OME rear shock and dropped that wheel all the way in the driveway just to see. What I found was that the air bag held but it was VERY close and there was tension on the lower back part of the airbag where it meets the plastic cup that attatches to the axle. Because of this I moved back to the stock shocks. LR does use different shocks for the coil vs. air bag Discos but I don't know if the difference is in length. The SLS spacers from Rovertym will fix the problem with the air bag and give you the extra drop the OME shocks provide with the bonus of the spacers being angled to reduce stress on the back of the air bag plus let you run at a lower pressure in the bag for a better ride.

If you run on mostly flat trails with little articulation you should be okay but I would still put in the spacers down the road. Just be careful or you might eventually rip the airbag.
 

Carl T
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 12:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Clif

I'm getting the TJM T17 bumper from Expedition Exchange. I paid $495 + 120 for the winchtray. Have not seen it yet, come to think of it I've never seen this type of bumper, so I'm very excited. heheheh

I'll keep you and I'll post pictures once everthing is on.

Carl
 

ken
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Carl
I have a DII with SLS I would like to do exatly what you just did. about how much was it and I will be doing it myself so I won't have to worry about labor cost
 

Carl Tsigakis (Carlt)
Posted on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ken

Email me your questions offline.

Carl

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