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John Kruger (Johnnyk)
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 03:03 pm: | 
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There was an earlier posting on a source for alternative lug nuts, does anyone remember who it was?
Thanks |
John Kruger (Johnnyk)
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 03:24 pm: |
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I found them at:
Gulf Coast Rovers |
KTM
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 03:25 pm: |
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http://www.gulfcoastrovers.com/rovers/arwhl/index.htm |
John Kruger (Johnnyk)
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:11 pm: |
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Does anyone know the specs:
thread type and size for DiscoI?
Thanks |
Disco Dad
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:41 pm: |
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John email me i have some being custom made
[email protected] |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:47 pm: |
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Look up in the sky! It's a bird! It's plane! It's Super D! That guy is everywhere. |
Disco Dad
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 04:57 pm: |
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He just trying to make a living and helping out, How about you? |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 05:09 pm: |
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Little ole me? Why I'm just trying to keep you from loading the threads with your spam. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 05:17 pm: |
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go screw yourself anon...when there is an email address with a real person behind it who is out to make an honest buck while saving us one, who are you to play web cop.
give your real name and email. at least dad here has the balls to do that.
dd - i want to hear about them. my ones for my steel wheels are a nice pretty rust color.
tom |
Disco Dad
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 05:17 pm: |
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Oh so no value on content in any thing i post,
I guess i should hide like you and talk trash?
Any relation to those guys hiding in the caves? |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 05:26 pm: |
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would the teflon or cad coating on lugs be compromised by wrenching (thereby returning them to that pretty rust color)? Just wondering... |
Disco Dad
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 05:33 pm: |
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Cad will last longer than the the powder coated ones, when impacted will start to chip, The ones I am having made will be gold cad plated |
John Kruger (Johnnyk)
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 12:45 pm: |
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what about stainless? |
Disco Dad
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 02:06 am: |
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Not strong enough, The ones i am having made will be 90 to 110 RC (Rockwell Hardness) The stockers are around 40 to 50 RC give or take |
John
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 09:38 am: |
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What matl are you using that will HT to a RC 110? Just curious.... Maybe too hard for an impact wrench? |
Chris Merritt (Smokinbro)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 10:12 am: |
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As the hardness rises, so does the brittleness(typically). Do lug nuts really need to be extra hard? Except for the odd occasion, they never see much in the way of abrasion.
They do however, take a fair bit of shock and the excessive brittleness may not be good thing.
Maybe you shoudl be looking for a metal with a better yeild strength, rather than hardness |
alhang
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 01:15 pm: |
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just wondering, i've never seen a lug nut failure on a rover. the nuts are huge, why build a better mouse trap when the stock ones are fine? |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 01:16 pm: |
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To scam people and to make money. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 01:21 pm: |
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my steel lug nuts are rust instead of black after only 1 1/2 years of use. if somebody would make something that would look good for a longer amount of time, even though i use an impact evertyime i remove the wheels (which is often), i would be interested. however, i wouldn't upgrade for a stronger nut.
tom |
alhang
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 01:28 pm: |
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sheesh, Anon what's with you? I don't usually agree with Disco Dad but he seems like a helpful person. And it is only lug nuts, how much could they possibly cost? |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 01:34 pm: |
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discodad, so i know how much for the lugs? annon, have you looked at the prices of sliders, diff protectors and the lot? is it not wild how you pay 500. plus dollars for about $75. of steel and a few welds? i find it strange that you arent blasting them for over-pricing old technology. geez i hate pu$$y who flame on people and dont put there name on the post. if you dont like what the man is offering then ignore it. its not your website, you dont pay one cent for it being here, so if someone wants to improve or has an idea to improve on a product and wants to share then by all means let him (or her). if you dont want the product move the F@#$ on. geez, it has to be one of those nissian guys. he is not spamming us and it he gets to the point that he is a pain in our asses then kyle, axel or the site owners will step in and end it, til then please keep you pie hole closed unless you are gonna put your name to your weak ass postings! |
ron a
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 02:17 pm: |
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dd, be very careful if you are really planning on making lug nuts that high on the rc scale. Is it possible you are thinking of rockwell 'b' instead?
Or possibly a plating (like chrome) that makes it that hard?
As Chris mentioned, more hard is not particularlly more good (ha).
Ron A |
Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 03:17 pm: |
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For the POS Cave dweller Anon, the lugs I am having made are the same metal and process that are used for large trucks and also for the race truck applications. And will be gold cad plated
The price the stockers from 1.99 to 4.99 each. I plan to sell them at 1.25 each and give a set away with the sale of Bead lock rims Discount Rovers will carry soon.
I will post that information.
Oh and the reason is not to replace striped ones but to provide a better quality product at an affordable price. |
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 04:03 pm: |
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Dee
This is NOT an attack - I like what you guys do, but the lug nuts used on class 8 trucks are two piece affairs made to SAE 1045 rc 26-32 on the nut and SAE 4140 rc 28-34 on the contact washer, which is much softer than you have spec'd. This spec comes from some of the largest truck lug nut suppliers - Metaform, Alocoa and Okabe. Admittdly, these are tightened to 390-440 ft lbs, so softer is necessary.
You may also want to investigate the teflon coating used on these which withstand better than 200 hours of salt spray with no signs of corrosion.
Just wanted to make sure someone wasn't feeding you any bad info.
Thanks for checking out options and coming up with some new stuff....
Bill |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 04:23 pm: |
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have Robar slap their NP3 finish on your lugs - now I would buy THAT...
Robar NP3 |
Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 05:04 pm: |
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Thanks Bill,
Ill post the actual specs on the lugs when I pick them up. The manufacture makes lugs for a lot of the custom wheel applications also for Race applications both on and off road and for commercial trucks. I gave them a stocker lug nut to improve upon the quality and durability of it and also protect the finish I chose Gold Cad, I can get them in Black oxide but why?.
Blue,
I wanted to keep the cost down to 1.25 and specialty coatings ill leave to the buyer.
But the process does look nice
Thank's |
Ron A
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:27 pm: |
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Dee, that's fantastic that you will be another source for wheels & nuts especially the beadlocks. Myself and a couple other guys have been trying to get beadlocks for several months but apparently the manufactures are somewhat reluctant to drill for 6.5 holes. Are your plans for steel or alum? If we get to vote I would like to lobby hard for alum. For those that use their rigs in the rocks I can tell that the alums are worth the cost.
As for the lugs if you�re going to have them cad plated Gold (although they call it yellow) maybe you could have a batch done in blue (the other common cad). Black Oxide isn�t normally a good coating for a part that sees a wrench, but P.T.F.E. (aka Teflon) is one of the best surface protectors available.
The lug nuts made for race trucks (and cars for that matter) are designed for a specific purpose as Bill pointed out and are rarely (if ever used) reused on the vehicle.
Look forward to hearing about the beadlocks.
Ron A |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:30 pm: |
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I'm having a gun NP3'd....maybe I'll see if they will also coat some naked nuts for me just for the hell of it... |
Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:56 pm: |
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Ron,
Wow postive feedback thanks
Blue, not going to go there with a naked nuts comment HeHe
About the lugs I just checked gold silver cad or black oxcide is all the choices
I believe these to be the best and strongest steel bead locks made. I will look into an aluminum model if there is some intrest. As for pictures I have been waiting on UPS to deliver my Digital Camera since the 21st, great 3 day service. according to UPS it should arrive today.
If any one is interested send me a email,
If you have or have used bead locks you will like these ones and as always we will price them affordable.
Now let the Bead Lock war begin.
Blue let me Know how the coating works out, |
JRoc
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 11:06 pm: |
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Hey Dee, Don't get discouraged with Idiot's that post anonymously! I like the service that you provide very much, and am glad that you guys take the time to improve the shortcomings of our Disco's. As you'll notice I'm not alone, so keep up the good work and I look forward to changing these stupid lugs with a functional decent lug. |
Disco_Dad
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 11:38 pm: |
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Thanks Jroc,
Dee |
Ron
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:38 am: |
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Dee,
No offense but series III lugnuts are ideal for a disco with steel wheels. Not sure of the finish but the ones off of a 73 that lived in canada still were pretty black when I got to them.
No need for custom IMO.
David Gage (www.thatchedroofgarage.com) has them for 1.35 a pop or so new.
Now I have never done this but it was my understanding that you made the lugs of a less hard material for several reasons.
1. Allows accurate torque and enough "stretch" to keep them in place (hard lugs I see a repeat of GBR axle flange bolts)
2. If you overtorque them the nut strips not the studs.
And the stock ones are TERRIBLE. Those damn caps. Check out the lugs on the disco next time and you will see I put my money where my mouth is on that one (non capped early RR lugnuts)
Ron |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:26 am: |
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>"And the stock ones are TERRIBLE. Those damn caps."
...but the plastic caps look pretty on my alloys...  |
Disco_Dad
| | Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:50 pm: |
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Ron no offense taken, At the unit per cost of the ones i am having made, it is still cheeper and of a beter quality |
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