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Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
http://www.discoweb.org/themount


Kyle
 

Jeremy Katka (Jkatka)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Looks really nice Kyle. Makes me wish I had a roof rack.

JK
 

Dave
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Kyle, you came through with perfect timing. I'll be ordering one shortly.
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Cool , keep in mind tha I can do light tabs , anchor points (For those with solid floors. And just about any kind of mount you can think up. I will be putting the pull pal mount up shortly.

Kyle
 

Jack (Olered)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
An additional pair would make a nice homemade awning holder! great work!
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 02:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
very nice work
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Any chance you might have brackets for my 1" O.D. square tube roof rack upper rail? Nice work!

Cheers,

e
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I am just doing mounts for the safety devces racks Eric. There is a but load of mounts out there already for the square stuff...

Kyle
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Way TIGHT Kyle...i`ll be looking forward to getting a set!!!!
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
how can a square tube have and od?

rd
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Nice looking mounts and very versatile. It looks like the same type of design that RTE uses on the steering damper relocation kit.
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Yeah Moe , same clamping system.... its the best you can get for round stuff... Probably a little over kill but over kill is a good thing.. :)

Kyle
 

James M. Eaglesome (Jme)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Kyle
Just ordered my adventure, will be ordering a set soon
 

Moe (Moe)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
That is a great system--not really overkill, just fancy but simple :) I like that you can adapt the system to a variety of purposes with small design changes. This one might make you a millionaire
 

Erik Olson (Jon)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Rob,

Wouldn't you still refer to the outside dimension of steel as "O.D." even if the piece is square instead of round?

.065 thinwall box / 1" x 1" O.D.

Cheers,

e
 

Wes Legaspi (Wes)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Kyle,

Pretty sweet...will a Jack-all fit on that?

thanks
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
:) no to be a dick or anything.....

when a customer calls me up and orders a 2" OD x 4" long pc of carbide it is assumed OD = Outside Diameter.

ANSI Y1.1-1972(R1984) states OD=Outside Diameter

now technically you aren't wrong. you are not supposed to have the period after O or the D so in your case i suppose you meant "outside dimension".

you might not want to order square tube that way over the phone ;)

rd
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
will fit a jack all too

rd
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Erik , practice saying this.

"Rob , shuddup!"

Kyle
 

my96disco (Trevorh)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Kyle,

I have been looking on and off for some of those connectors for my limb raiser project, with no luck to date. What are they called? At least if I am asking for the right thing rather than trying to describe them over the phone I might have better luck.

Thanks

TrevorH
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
You simply say "Kyle , I want two of those things for limb risers" and then you get them.... Isnt that easy ?? :)

Kyle
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I still like my cheap bastard rack mounts better.

Those wingnuts stainless? That was the hardest part finding stainless wingnuts.

:)

Ron
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Well ofcourse you do Ron,,,, Thats what makes you "Ron". Lemme see a nice pic of those fine inventions would ya ? :)

Kyle
 

M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
niceeeeeeeeee, now if i could get sponsorship from safety devices....hehehehehe, nice work my friend.
mike w
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Hey Kyle,

Of course yours look nicer but mine are cheaper.

They were up on discoweb. Someone with more computer knowledge than me will find the link (unless you have eliminated the competition).

In your pics you mounted it on the lower set of rails of the roof rack. This to me is less desireable than the upper two as if mounted above it puts the jack as far out of the way as possible. I would also suggest removing the base when offroading as this is what is most likely to become hung up. Ask me how I know :)

Ron
 

Kyle
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Well , my base is off.... Han however (The truck in the pics) is in CA. So what was it you were saying again about a jack on the truck in the desert? Also , yes , I can see where your C of G would be much better.... You are a wiley one Ron , I have heard of your design skills and concepts... :)

Kyle
 

Ron
Posted on Friday, July 05, 2002 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
http://www.discoweb.org/alyssa/jackmount.htm

alyssa caught the base on a tree at ~5mph and all it did was shift the mount. I think with yours it would bend the rack or the mount. Mine do not have the elegance of yours though.

Ron
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Yes Ron , when ya hit something with the rack ,it will ussually bend it....(Solution , DONT HIT THINGS) Although , mine has been hanging there for quite some time and its fine. Hmmm , come to think of it , Robs has been there for some time as well and its been fine. You are absolutely right though. If junk is your thing then that thing you built is the cats meow. I cant argue that.... :) Also Ron you should have taken note that with the design you can move it anywhere...

Kyle
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
LOL , Ron , you had to know I wasnt done yet... :) I have to plug your mount one more time and say that on something like this http://www.discoweb.org/alyssa/alyssa01.jpg
Your mount is definately better then mine.. I should think hitting the rack is the least of your problems..... :)

Kyle
 

Ron
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
My point was that it did not bend :)

As far as not hitting things it is kinda hard

Do those ones you make fit on the upper rail or are you stuck with it below (or is that the short person's preferred mounting location?)

I am pretty happy with my junk. It works, thats what matters.

Ron
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
They will fit all over , you just have to jockey them around a bit... To some "Just working" is a relative term. If you mean it holds the jack on there I couldnt agree more. It looks as if it will do that....Then again , so will about 50 bungees...... :)

Kyle
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Ahhh , and again , I advise against mounting on the top rail. Its not about being short (I am 6'5") its about the whole truck "Working" , not just the mount.... Send me the pics of when ya drop that one through the alpine there..."Got Card board ?" :)

Kyle
 

Ron
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Maybe you can help me get the dent out :)

http://www.discoweb.org/canada01/DSC00087.JPG

Ron

I think mine looks pretty good. Oh and when you jack won't work because the vibes and solid mounting wallows out the holes give me a ring and I will send you some shock bushings to use on the next one.
 

Ron
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Awe poor kyle can't hold the heavy jack :(

If mine was on the lower rail it would have bitten the big one a long time ago. Lower rail is fine for the desert but not east coast. The rack has the scars to prove it has seen some time skidding along trees. Alyssa refers to it as the roof brush bar :)

Ron
 

Ron
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
back to the pirate board

Ron :)
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Um Ron , my truck dont rattle.... Keep the bushings up there with you.... And as you can see
http://www.discoweb.org/mike/ShiteatingGrin.jpg

http://www.discoweb.org/mike/NiceBumper1.jpg

I DID get the dent out. :)

Kyle
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
"If mine was on the lower rail it would have bitten the big one a long time ago"

LOL ,m Ron , you explain it all right there in one sentence. Yes , I believe you are right. But then again , the whole truck has "Bitten the big one" on more then one occasion. Now ask yourself why that is when its really been no where . Whats it been ? Two years of events maybe ?

Kyle
 

Kyle
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Ole Ron has made a very good point here. If you cant drive and like to bash the living piss out of your truck these mounts are not the ones for you.... Thanks Ron...... :)


Kyle
 

Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Ron,

Not sure if you ever got that dent out but I seen this INFOMERCIAL the other night for a dent puller. It was called the Dent BUSTER or something.. The guy that sell that Orange Glow shit was selling the dent puller. It may be a good investment for you. Just think you could take it with you and pull any dents on the trail.
 

Neal Glessner (Nealg)
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
It's called a dig king. I bought one and tried in on a company car (Not a Rover). It works well.
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Saturday, July 06, 2002 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
lets talk about this mount.

K.I.S.S. = Keep It Simple Stupid

that design philosephy will stand the end of time, and this is a classic example of fuctional design. no more or less than you need.

when you mount it on the lower rails as shown in this picture

http://www.discoweb.org/themount/DCP_1648.jpg

it wraps around the alpine so nicely it looks like it's supposed to be there.

also it ADDS protection to the alpine window, at least on that side. while still allowing you to look out that window.

i really did not want to block the view as i had mine mounted on the drivers side. A) so i can see it there and when it might get hit and B) when in a tight spot i can still glance up and see how close to branches the rach is from INSIDE the truck.

as far as fitment, you can rotate each mount slightly so the jack just slides on. this will let the jack stay snugand rattle freewhile on the road and wheeling.

the rotation when you pull ONE end up will let you clear the pin while still having the heavy end on the mount. i found it makes it safe and unlikely that i would drop the jack on the truck, even on while i'm on hashish.

rd

rd
 

Kyle
Posted on Sunday, July 07, 2002 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
CB antennae mount pics and price being added shortly.


Kyle
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Limb riser fasteners ?
I hope you can get Kyle to make some as well made as these....
split rings
They're called "split-rings" and the basic "rings" can be found at some specialty hardware stores or machine shops. You may be able to make your own for much less than $60 ....
Then again $60 isn't bad if it includes shipping and the clamps are stainless steel instead of just black spray painted steel/aluminum. The pic is of stainless steel custom made clamps which cost $75 a pair. I didn't think I could make any money selling them but perhaps Kyle can.
Even if Kyle didn't get the idea for his clamps from my clamps ... I wish him the most profitable and honorable of futures.

Mark
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
\image(clamp}
It is under 50K
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
clamp
Yeah, I know.... what a goof !
Kyle , it's all yours, I can't even display an image on the first or second try.... how could I expect to be a millionaire at $1 / clamp profit ?
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
sell 500,000 pairs
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
The math eludes me, wouldn't it take about 2 million sales to make a $million.... especially after the patent attorneys, law suit lawyers, court costs, advertising, distribution, local/state/federal taxes, FICA, etc, etc.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
($1/clamp profit * 2 clamps/pair) * 500,000 pairs = $1,000,000 profit

those limb riser clamps are nice too (same clamp as the hi-lift mounts)
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
LOL , And where exactly would I have gotten this idea of yours Mark ? Also , they are not stainless , I am thinking of heading in that direction but the shiny shit up there on the rack might not be real desireable. I rather the items I make just kinda melt in to the truck. You know , "No big deal"..... I want some of those mythical 1 dollar rings as well....

Kyle
 

Neal Glessner (Nealg)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
A couple of MBA grads....
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
i think mark is just pissed that he can't have those mounts for his cheese roof rack. :)
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Actually I found them to fit square tubing but Mark aint gonna like the price tag on those bad boys....... :)

Kyle
 

niall forbes (Forbesn)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Mark posted pics of these and info on how he got them a few months ago. I'm not implying that you copied them though Kyle. Anyway, they both look good.
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Hmmm , dammit , I suppose I missed the post and quite honestly I became familliar with the rings after seeing them on Johns steering brackets... His appear to be more rounded....

By the way , Mark , brain that cable and you will have a better looking limb riser.... No clamps or swedges...


Kyle
 

Neal Glessner (Nealg)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Mark,

You have a lot of nerve calling Kyle's idea a "stolen idea". I am referring to ../18/6136.html"#444444">		 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
No biggie Neal , its quite possible he was just bullshitting... Ya never know on here....:) Not that I would bullshit or anything ofcourse....lol

Kyle
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Once again.... a thread has quickly become full of misinformation. The word "thief" did not enter my post and I never used the words steal or stole. I merely eluded to the similarity between by limb riser clamp which, if that old thread is reviewed, may have a response from Kyle about how "chessy" it was then ....and it may still be. The limb riser cable connection to the brush bar clamp design has since been changed and uses different connection methods to the split ring clamp... via the constructive suggestions of Dwebbers. Those which were only insulting and/or negative were duly noted and discarded.

The wrong and misinformed thread responses remind me very much of the way that Kyle went into a thread "dictatorship" after actually using the phrase "FLIP" and being misunderstood and misquoted ....

After all I did imply that his version was very enterprising whether or not it was influenced by my clamp ..... on any tubular part ....for a high-lift mount or in response to one of the following thread requests for a limb riser clamp ... to which I was responding.

Smiles to all my DWeb friends and also to those who only wait in the shadows to pounce on any hint of an issue whether it exists or not.
I knew as soon as I threaded that there would be those who didn't "get it."

Mark
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
After all, wasn't I laughing at myself for not being able to post a pic ?

Don't get so very intense there Neal.... its only a clamp.
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Neal,
Now I see where you got the misinformation from ... the posting Test Area. Yes I "thought" of using such words in the test area but thought better of it when actually posting to this thread. My apologies for "thinking" ( but not doing so ) of using such language in a response to this thread.
 

Kyle
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Maybe yours is "Only a Clamp" :) thats why mine cost more.... :) This thread actually brings up something I have been plagued by and thats the use of stainless. I had pretty much come down to either black anodizing or stainless to avoid that whole powdercoating thing (I dont really care for it)I personally like the look of stainless , not sure if I like it all over that black rack but damn its nice not to have to worry about it...
And Mark , it did look kinda bad there in the practice section.... :)


Kyle
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
kyle, You found ones that fit square tube???

WTF..

hehe

rd
 

Neal Glessner (Nealg)
Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Mark,

Apology accepted. However it is a little strange that you claim that you didn't really post your comments since it was in the Practice Area. As long as people can read them, they have a right to feel offended.
 

Ho Chung (Ho)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Mark, who you trying to bullshit here? :)
 

Greg P. (Gparrish)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Can't help it....... I have to put in my 3 cents....

So what if Kyle did copy an idea.... not saying he did or didn't, but if he looked at your clamp and said I can make that, so what. If you come up with an idea and share it with the world but don't copy right or patent the idea, nor do you take it to market, then shame on you if someone else does it first.

I think Kyle is making a product that is duly needed in the Disco world. It is next to impossible to find options to many of our needs and every additional vendor just makes it better for us........ the consumers. If I want a bracket for my jack, and Kyle has the design I like, then what do I care if he makes $1 or $1,000,000 as long as I get the product I want and am willing to pay the price for it.

So, enough ranting and sticking my nose in mid stream.............. I'll end my little post with just 2 words for HO....

RANCHO RULES!
 

Kyle
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Rob , I gave you think link you dick.......lol


Kyle
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I'm offended by Rob's use of the word "hehe"

pwc
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
shit, wait till you guys see my KVT bumper knock-off, complete with Mark's patented split ring clamps :)
 

Kyle
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
LOL ......... Didnt you mean "Bed Frame Bumper" ??


Kyle
 

John Kruger (Johnnyk)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
I am also offended, over what, I am not certain, but I am certainly offended!!

Kyle, nice use of a shaft collar. I may need a few of those when I get back from our little trip.

John
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Kyle,
Does this mean the welding job you did on Rob's rack for his Jack-All, that I'm picking up, is now second rate???? Or is it now a classic, to be considered "Custom Kyle" (CK for short) and will be worth millions some day? I can see it now, impressionable kids all across the country will start wearing CK shirts....


pwc
 

p m
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Kyle,

don't knock the bed frames - they make great roof racks. the main benefit is that you pick one up from a dumpster, and put it back when you don't need it anymore....

IME, Awab SS hose clamps are equally good for limb risers and hi lift mounts. it would take too many of them to hold a winch, though.

peter
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
kyle, i found the shit in the catolouge after you turned cry baby.

pwc, my mount is superior to the ones kyle sells, but you cant really sell the ones i had ;)

rd
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Quote:

don't knock the bed frames - they make great roof racks. the main benefit is that you pick one up from a dumpster, and put it back when you don't need it anymore....



oh man, I hope this is for the Jeep and not the Rover, Peter :)
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
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Quote:
don't knock the bed frames - they make great roof racks. the main benefit is that you pick one up from a dumpster, and put it back when you don't need it anymore....


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they also are good for dragging behind the tractor when trying to level out top soil.

rd
 

p m
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
Blue,

you know what - the rangie's roof is within an inch off the jeep's in width and length, so if one craps out, another will carry the torch :)

for now, futon frame stays in the dumpster - neither will get into the garage with the roof rack...

peter
 

Kyle
Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post
PWC , the ones you are getting were not quite the "Lets see if this shit will actually work" set , but pretty damn close to it. Rob isnt a risk taker and whined like a little bitch when I was putting them on..

Kyle

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