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John Keeler (Polyteknik)
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 09:49 pm: | 
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Hello all!
My 1998 Disco I LSE has been a teriffic vehicle with the exception of a quirky alarm system. Sometimes the door locks don't actuate fully with either the remote or keys. Then, when we go back the the vehicle and unlock the doors via the reomte OR keys, the system remains armed and the horn sounds. Additionally, the truck won't start. The LED on the dash blinks rapidly to indicate the system still armed.
Is there a relay or fuse I can remove to deactivate the system until I can track down the gremlins responsible for this madness?!!? Any help would be appreciated!
John K.
Tampa, FL |
Neal Glessner (Nealg)
| | Posted on Monday, July 08, 2002 - 11:19 pm: |
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You should be able to lock and unlock the doors a few times to re-engage the ignition. |
CEJB
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 03:49 am: |
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John:
Please help, you trying to fix your wife or your truck? |
Zak
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 07:50 am: |
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The same thing happens to me about once or twice a week. I just hit the unlock button on the remote, and it will ususaly start right up. |
John Keeler (Polyteknik)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 09:08 am: |
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CEJB - trying to fix the truck...heh, heh
I have tried several times to lock and unlock using both the key (from the driver's door) and the remote. I'll have my wife change out the battery in the remote as well.
What happens is that using either the key or remote, I can lock the two (2) front doors ONLY and they respond very weakly, as if there is barely enough battery power to operate them.
Someone had metioned to me that there is a problem with the "spider"; something that interconnects the ignition, immobilizer and door locks. Is there anyway to overide this until I can fix it? |
BP Guy
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 09, 2002 - 03:58 pm: |
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Overide - No
After 1995 the alarm was tied into the fuel system. If you disable your alarm, you're going to disable your fuel system too. Doesn't sound very productive to me. You can however pull the fuse for the horn to avoid suspicious looks from passerbys as you curse at your truck for being overengineered. Sometimes I wonder why I love these things so much.
There really isn't much you can do yourself unless you're a master of wiring. I suggest taking her to an alarm shop or, as a last resort, to the dealer for fixing. |
John Keeler (Polyteknik)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 05:40 pm: |
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BP Guy,
Thanks for the help. Someone from the U.K told me this: "There is an emergency procedure described in your owners manual. To use it you need the emergency code which you can obtain from a dealer if you don't have it. You will need to quote your vehicle's chassis and engine numbers. Follow the procedure outlined in the manual which will override the alarm/immobiliser system. It takes a bit of practice to get it right." I went through my manual (USA), but can't find any such procedure. Has anyone else heard of this?
John K.
Tampa, FL |
Mark Meyer (Deadelus)
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 09:26 pm: |
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John,
I suffered the exact same issues you are talking about a while back. I finally tracked it down to a loose ground at the battery. There are so many grounds to check though. Have you had any other erratic electrical behavior recently? If not, you may.
Mark |
John Keeler (Polyteknik)
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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Mark,
I haven't had any other electrical issues (yet). The battery cables an ground appears in good condition. In most respects, this vehicle appears practically new, even under the hood. I'll keep looking, but this is my first Rover and it'll probably take some time.
I did read in the owner's manual that you can lock the doors without arming the alarm by holding the key in the lock position for 5 seconds. If this problem occurs again, I'll try to disarm it that way. It's such an odd and intermittent problem.
John K.
Tampa, FL |
Mr UK
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 04:30 pm: |
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In UK there is a proceedure to over-ride the alarm. Since we make your Discoveries I assume you have similar factory fitted alarms ....
From your dealer get your unique over-ride code for your driver's door lock. The key is put into the lock, and held in lock position for 10seconds.
The over-ride has 4 digits and each signifies a 'lock' or 'unlock' position.
Example. 3R.5L.6R.8L.
After the key has been held at 'lock door' for 10seconds, the key is turned to the vertical. From vertical the key is then turned according to each digit [ 3R = from vertical,turn fully right and return to vertical.Repeat x3. Similar for 5L. 6R. 8L. The horn beeps if whole proceedure is correct and the door can be unlocked. [NB. it needs a steady hand because the contacts can easily be tripped more than once, per turn]
If you get it wrong the engine lockout prevent futher over-ride attempts for 20 minutes.
NB... Its difficult to master but easy when you know how. Its also worth while spraying WD40 into the lock to keep the lock's electrical contacts free. I suggest you practice over-ride 'at home' before the need arises.
Alternatively ... disconnect the car's battery for 2 minutes and the alarm will be disables on battery's re-conection. The horn will deafen you whilst you undo the nuts. However, you will then need to re-enter the radio code.
NB2... In UK [possibly wordwide] the handbook's diagrams of the above are shown reversed ie. they are wrong! For correct perspective view the diagrams throught from the other side of the page. NO joke !!!!!
NB3... Locking the door with the key sets the alarm on doors only. Internal security is switched off. Unlocking with the key will sound the alarm and disable the engine etc - key handset must be used! |
Mr UK
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 04:37 pm: |
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Another thought ...
Have you renewed the handset battery? If 'yes' you must follow the method set out in the handbook to discharge the handset before fitting new batteries. The handset with new batteries then needs syncronising with your vehicle - see handbook.
If you don't the alarm develops a life of its own and constantly locks you out! Make certain you fit the battery number as specified for your handset. |
Bruce
| | Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 04:38 pm: |
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John,
Live in Tampa you say? Several of us live in Tampa as well as others in central Florida and we often get together and run the swamps of Richloam or go to Ocala. Look up Mike Bauer's site, discocrazy.org, E-mail Mike so he can include you on the mailing list for our next outing.
Sorry, but I have no expereince with the security system. |
garth
| | Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 03:10 am: |
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Theres a problem which I know exists with the Disco II when parking too close to major high voltage transmission lines, electrical sub stations, or in line with some automatic door openers in shops (i kid you not) which can result in interference with the remote, which then requires you to go through the manual unlocking and disarming procedure.
A friend of mine called out LR assist in a country town, who towed the car 300 metres, at which time the car would start. The guy said that it was the fifth Disco II hed towed from that one parking area (directly under major transmision lines) |
Zapped
| | Posted on Friday, July 12, 2002 - 04:31 pm: |
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Correct Gareth ... also a problem if parked nearby mobile phone masts! |
John Keeler (Polyteknik)
| | Posted on Monday, July 15, 2002 - 09:37 pm: |
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Thanks to everyone for their suggestions. The problem hasn't occured for a week or so, but I am waiting for the next occurence. A very nice chap (Andre Strydom) scanned his owners' manual and sent me the instructions that "Mr. UK" detailed above. Now, I just need to locate the 4-digit code. The local service manager had no idea of this procedure and wasn't sure how he could retrieve the code for me. He suggested it may be on the metal tag that was with the new keys and ignition cylinder that was installed in my truck a few months ago. But, I figured that there was some type of alarm code entered at the factory, which hopefully, the technicians at the service department can retrieve for me...
John K.
Tampa, FL |
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