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Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 10:17 am: | 
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Just got my Saudi Grill. How bad is the install? Are there any "surprises" associated with the install? Like hidden bolts or needing to remove both headlight assembly?
Anyone had success with this?
Thanks all. |
Jay Hobbs (Jayxd)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 11:53 am: |
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It is pretty simple. I think this is right but if I left anything out, someone please fill in the gaps.
You need to remove on one side the turn signal light (there is a little spring clip that holds it in from inside). It will reveal some screws that will allow removal of the black curved piece under the lights. Once that is off all your should need to do is remove the screws at the top of the grill and you are set. |
murray
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 11:57 am: |
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where did you get your grill from? i am thinking about getting one...when you get it finished take some pics ... thanks
murray |
Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 12:13 pm: |
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I purchased it from the northeast british ltd.? I think that's the name. Check some of the posts and you can find. Look at the D2 post about the grills that's currently running. It speaks of a place were these can be purchased for $25. I paid $60 for mine. |
Jorge P. Gutierrez, Jr. (Jpg2esq)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 12:29 pm: |
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My grill is cracked at 2 of the 3 screws above. Need to replace it anyways. May replace it with a saudi grill. Any pros/cons other than looks? |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:04 pm: |
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it will give you 12 more horsepower.. and it also negated the need for lockers at it increases traction.... 
no, no other pros than looks, and to some people the looks are a con..
http://www.discoweb.org/gilstevens/updisco1.jpg |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:19 pm: |
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ooooooooh armor-all |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:23 pm: |
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yeah.....and he was busting on MY tires.
ps: gil you mexican? lol. |
Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:26 pm: |
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Trying for more cooling. Hey, if it works it works. |
gp (Garrett)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:31 pm: |
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i was talking about gils tires. haha. grille is cool, but he was a little heavy on the tires. that and i just need to bust on them. i mean letters out is better than that any day.
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Dee
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:32 pm: |
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Jack,
Is this a screen to modify the existing grill or a total replacement grill? The Saudi ones I have seen were a bit diffrent the seemd to have big holes insted of a mesh and cost about 3 times as much?
Here is the PN that I have listed "DHB102590LML GRILLE PANEL MESH TYPE DISCO "
Is it the same PN you ordered? I was going to order one up for my 97 D1 but have not done so |
Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 01:42 pm: |
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Dee, I have never seen the one you are speaking of. I got mine from Northeast British Parts. It resembles or IS the one found on Gils (see above). I'm just hoping for a little cooling. It is useless to get it for looks as mine is covered by 2 Hella 4ks. I figured that any extra cooling help was a good thing. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 02:35 pm: |
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Well I think it looks cool too, and with that one place selling them for $25 I am thiking of doing it but first, if you have an ARB bullbar can you remove the old grill and install the new one without removing the bumper??? |
Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 02:55 pm: |
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Not sure. |
Gil Stevens (Gil)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 03:00 pm: |
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YES.. im a mexican at heart, and im a really big fan of armor-all!!
dee.. its a full replacment grill,
step 1) pop the old one out
step 2) pop new saudi grill in
step 3)apply liberal amounts of armour-all to tires before taking any pictures |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 03:02 pm: |
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If nobody knows by the end of the day I will probablly just take it apart after work and see if I can figure it out for myself, I really want the grill just not if it means the trouble of taking the ARB w/ winch off. |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 03:25 pm: |
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All you have to do is remove the screws at the top and pop the grill out. takes about 10 minutes and requires very little brainpower. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 03:49 pm: |
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yeah, but will the ARB get in the way for some reason is what I want to know. |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Monday, July 22, 2002 - 04:09 pm: |
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Hey, forgive me if I just asked a dumb question. Im at work and cant look at my truck right now and was going to order it today if someone could reasure me there wouldn't be a problem. |
Jeff Bays (Jdbays)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:22 am: |
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If you have not installed your saudi grill yet. I got one last week. It was a breeze to install. Even with a full factory brush bar and 2 hella 4000's, it only took about half an hour. Does anyone know if it really helps with cooling? That is the main reason I got it but have not driven far enough to tell.
Jeff |
Palomino
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:54 pm: |
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I put the grill on in March. I can't remember the name of the place that I gat it from. When I get home I will check and post it so those of you interested can do some price comparing.
I have an ARB bull bar w/o a winch and I was able to put it onw.o any problem. The only screws that i removed were the 3 top screws. I then slid the factory grill to one side and popped out the other. I slid the new one back on and put the screws in. It took about 15 min.
Good luck.
Rico |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:07 pm: |
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I think there is a downside to that grill. The stock grill on the bumper is designed (or at least appears to be) in such a way to allow air in, but minimize water intake. I have practiced this on more than one occasion.
With that big opening, you won't very easily be able to create a wake to push the water forward. It will just come right in.
Tom |
Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:20 pm: |
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The whole process took 20 minutes. It was easy and I know my truck a little better now. That's the point right? |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:26 pm: |
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Jack, Is the mesh plastic or Wire? also is the fit and finish as good as the orginal?
Thanks |
Jack (Olered)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:30 pm: |
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It's hard to tell if it was plastic or wire. If it was wire, then it was plastic coated. To me, it looks great and fits like a glove. If it cools then it was the best $60 ever spent. |
Jorge P. Gutierrez, Jr. (Jpg2esq)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:35 pm: |
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Unless you do some heavy wading RVR, I don't think that is that much of a downside. The height on the truck makes wading pretty straighforward unless you are heading into deep water. I do see your issue when doing heavy off road/trail stuff. |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:35 pm: |
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Thanks jack, I may go for one myself
Dee |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:07 pm: |
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I am in water up over the bumper almost every time I hit the trails. Just be careful!
Tom |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:52 pm: |
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Tom:
On my last wheeling trip, we had water coming out the front of a friend of mine's D I. I suspect that if you're in that deep, the bumper and air dam (if you still have it) are doing the majority of Bow Wave origination.
I'm still trying to figure out why we had water coming out the front of the grille of a D I though!
My biggest complaint about wading is having to drain the diffs that somehow seem to collect far too much water and then blow it out the hub seals.
Someday, I'll actually put on the fittings and hose to extend the breathers that are on a shelf in the basement! |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:55 pm: |
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Was the AC on? Maybe the fans were splashing it all over the place...
Tom |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:11 pm: |
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RVR, I seriously doubt the stock grill pushes any water aside while wading at a few mph. If it does push aside more than the suadi grill, its negligible.
What worries me about the Saudi grill is the builup of ice. The stock grill has horizontal slats angled downward, which might help prevent the formation of ice on the fans. The saudi grill allows for snow/ice to build up on the fans. |
Kingfish (Kingfish)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:13 pm: |
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And Dee, the saudi grill has metal mesh and seems to be of better quality than the original, which is all plastic. |
RVR OVR (Tom)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:23 pm: |
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Hey, I can only say what I witnessed. I was out wheeling and doing water crossings where I had the bow coming from right on top of the hood, as the water was way deep. I think that the grill in it's stock formation helped due to the forward motion more than pretty much what amounts to a hole would.
It is probably the "Saudi grill" for a reason!
Tom |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 07:42 pm: |
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Cool King Fish,
If ice Buildup or dams are a worry put the orginal grill back on in the winter or when going on a submarine trip... Ping Ping Ping |
Jay Hobbs (Jayxd)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:35 pm: |
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I have the saudi grill because I like the way the Disco looks with it. Never really thought much about water ingress though, but with the mesh being recessed it would be very easy to cut a piece of plastic to put over the mesh when fording and then easily remove once done. |
Palomino
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:42 pm: |
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Have a grill cover made like the series had.
It could have two functions.
One would be to snap on before going deep and the other would be to have on for cold winter days.
I live in Florida so the cold winter days aren't an issue.
Rico |
jp
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 03:47 am: |
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One suggestion for those fitting the Saudi grille- on mine the plastic piping around the edge of the main hole falls off, or at least sags, and looks really daggy. I took my grille off, removed the wire mesh, and glued the piping to the grille so it wouldnt sag anymore.
Also, in Saudi, the grille came with a 120A alternator, and baffles to improve airflow. The holes in the crosspanel above the lights were covered over, and a big plastic panel screwed to the frame at the front cross member reaching nearly back to the front of the oil pan - cut out to clear the oil filter. Not quite sure what this is supposed to do - stop crud getting up onto front of engine, or water??
jp |
Dee
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:08 pm: |
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Cant wait to install the "Chicken Wire Special"
Just ordered the Grill from Roverland for $25.00 plus $10.00 for UPS, it seems worth it to shead some BTU's |
Dee
| | Posted on Monday, August 05, 2002 - 11:51 pm: |
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The grill arrived today and is a Genuine DBH102590LML with metal mesh
The cheepest price i have ever seen by more than 100.00. Total cost to my door was 34.99 |
my96disco (Trevorh)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:11 am: |
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Dee
Where is Roverland? Do they have a website?
Trevorh |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:34 am: |
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I reached them by phone, there site is not up right now. I talked to Danny there phone is 305.754.8800 you also can fax in a order i think that is there prefered method fax no is 305.754.8818 |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:55 am: |
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dee. time for some
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Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 01:16 am: |
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Ho, I'll snap some in the AM, the ones i took tonight were too dark |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:29 am: |
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The Chicken Wire grill on my D1
Kyle still want one ? |
D Cantrell (Discodad)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:34 am: |
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Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:37 am: |
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They (LR)want $350 - $450 for that on a D2? WTF?
Paul
'00 pig |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:39 am: |
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Paul it's all to make up for our cheaper radiator that holds water as well as a moth balled British Diesel sub. |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:56 am: |
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Nice.
Damn D2 biased bastards!!!
LOL,
Paul |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:57 am: |
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I think there was a shitload of them left over for the Saudi market and when the DII came out these sat in a parts house's to rot. I checked 2 weeks ago from one of my suppliers for the same part in the UK and price was 110 pounds, So Rover Land must have bought the whole lot them and is selling dirt cheep. I could not modify my old grill for so little. Wait untill the DIII comes out the DII stuff will be cheeper then. Sad but true the Ford Explorer and Disco III will most likely share common trim and mechanicals |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 11:00 am: |
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Just a thought the wire mesh may fit on a DII grill you can gut out the center and attach it in the same manner as the DI grill is modified. Just a guess i have not worked on any D2 |
Kyle
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 11:12 am: |
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Looks like the front end of an Amigo.......
Kyle |
alhang
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 11:17 am: |
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Was wondering what to get Kyle for Christmas... |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 12:03 pm: |
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the sad part al is that you actually buy kyle a christmas present. |
Dee
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Kyle that's low even buy your standards, now your officially off my Christmas mailing list, Rob I might be able to get you a refund for you on the grill you had me order along with mine. I presume you were going to give it Kyle being your a Rangie guy |
Kyle
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Amigo...... Just telling ya what I see.....
Kyle |
alhang
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:28 pm: |
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"the sad part al is that you actually buy kyle a christmas present."
haha, true but kyle does alot for people on this site and he usually asks for nothing in return. And he doesn't share Ho's love affair with expensive liquor so the grill makes a nice gesture. |
Ho Chung (Ho)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 02:40 pm: |
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al,  |
Dee Cantrell (Disco_Dad)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:17 pm: |
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Hell ill buy the Dweb Staff a bottle of there poision for christmas. Ho lets not get sick with some 500 bottle brandy
And I for one appricate them and there site. |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 03:44 pm: |
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Dee, Kyle called you Friend, in Spanish, but he called you friend all the same. Er, not sure about the gender, though.
Have you got D-web stickers on your truck Dee?
I do, proud sponsor. Although I'll not punch anybody in the face if they make snide comments about me hanging out here. Might not pull them out of a hole, but won't punch 'em in the nose!
Oh yeah, I still think I can use the sawzall and make my own Saudi grille, at least until I find somebody who can ship me a radiator in one piece!
Peace,
Paul |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 05:59 pm: |
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Not on the Disco, I do have it proudly displayed on my tool box. Between the Jegs and the Edelbrock stickers
Amigo.. LOL yeah but it seemed like he ment Pendejo (Dumb-ass) |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 06:32 pm: |
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er... late getting back , but i sent that grill to albert. he's the one who kisses ass.
as he admited at the top.
rd |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 08:20 pm: |
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Oh dam a chrismat present war. LOL |
Kyle
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 08:23 pm: |
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Well , I hate to be the one to get politically incorrect. BUT , man , you realize its almost 9/11 again and you just installed a towel head grille ? Something aint right there man..
Kyle |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 08:48 pm: |
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Sorry Big guy, I checked the Grill did not find any reference to made in Afghanistan. Hum I thought Saudis are our friends as long as we protect them and allow there Crude Oil to be sold in Japan. Ok to apease the PC crowd Ill mount my Desert Storm Medal to the Grill |
p m
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 08:54 pm: |
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Kyle, the towel head grille - is it made by LR?
peter |
Jeff Anderson (Groovydude)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 09:05 pm: |
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I got a Saudi grill....But then again it came with my Disco. |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 09:07 pm: |
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were our friends....
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020806/ts_nm/saudi_usa_dc_6 |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
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Yeah, that's a hot topic right now about loose lips in DC. The pentagon is tap dancing in front of the Saudis in order to keep the use of those nice airfields.
No matter what choice of Grill you go with, it is going to get covered up if you install a big ass bumper with a winch and lights.
Paul |
Dee
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 09:21 pm: |
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Shit no wonder they were only 24.50 each.
Well i say it's the DHB102590LML GRILLE PANEL MESH TYPE DISCO from now on
Well not getting way off topic we have assholes here in this country who supported the actions of the terrorists behind 911 before and after |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 06, 2002 - 10:28 pm: |
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"No matter what choice of Grill you go with, it is going to get covered up if you install a big ass bumper with a winch and lights."
I think that is why some of us are installing the grill, to get a little more air in there after we block it off more with lights and winches. I don't have any real way of knowing whether or not it works but for $30 its cheap peace of mind. It might not be a big deal for most of you outside of the south but down here it isn't uncomon for it to be in the mid to upper 90's all freakin day long. |
Dee
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 01:34 am: |
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Carter, That was my point in buying the Chicken wire special in the first place and at 34.00 I belive its a bargin, I was going to hide it with a KVT but my lottery number was not picked... |
Paul D. Morgan (V22guy)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 06:37 am: |
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Interesting comment about the south Carter. Yeah it gets damn hot down there. Just a week ago the temps at my home in Jacksonville, NC with heat indices were hovering in the 100's all day long. Damn Hot, couldn't stand it.
Is installing a mesh grill going to assist the engine in staying cool? Who knows? IMHO, I doubt it. We are still driving a slow moving brick where air flow vs vehicle speed ratios really don't matter.
Paul |
K. March (Apexdisco)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 07, 2002 - 09:43 am: |
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Anyone else have the Saudi Grill installed with some pics to post?? |
Jorge P. Gutierrez, Jr. (Jpg2esq)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:55 am: |
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Just put mine in last night. Piece of cake. Looks good. |
Dee
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:10 pm: |
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Welcome to the "Chicken Wire Grill Club" |
Jay Hobbs (Jayxd)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:29 pm: |
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Maybe Ho could start a photo gallery page for us chicken wire grill folks  |
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