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JRoc
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:26 pm: | 
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What options do I have for a dog guard for a '95 Disco? I've seen the two that AB sells in there catalog, one's a cheapo and the other I believe is a Land Rover part. Any advantages of one over the other? I've also seen the one that Trek Outfitters sells and it looks nice, but $350 for a dog guard is a joke! |
Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:36 pm: |
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Are you actually using it for your dogs? I only ask cause some people use it to keep gear from flying at them. If you are going to use it for your dog/s I would suggest just getting a big plactic airline dog crate. Much safer for the dog and you can use it any where not just in the the truck. Plus, it's alot easier to take the crate out and hose it down then cleaning the whole back of the truck when they get all wet and muddy. The crate is a much better way to go for driving with pets then the metal bars are. Plus, it's cheaper. |
Victor
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:39 am: |
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I agree with Eric on this. I have an 80lbs German Shepherd who I do search and rescue with, and having a crate is so much better then just the guard. My dog gets to anxious sometimes that she paws at the windows, steps on the plastic dividers on the side, and one instance broke the connection for the defroster.
I've since been using a crate, and she simply settles down. The crate is nice as well, because I can open the door and get stuff without worrying about trying to keep the dog in the truck, and I know that she isn't chewing on anything back there so all my stuff is safe. |
BW
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:53 am: |
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I've been looking around too. I want something to keep my gear from sliding to the back. Yeah, Trek Outfitters must be smoking some serious weed.
Here is what I have found so far:
http://www.petsmart.com/servlet/petsearch?species=1260&lookat=product&RowsPerPage=20&Product_Name_str1=auto+barrier
http://shop.petmarket.com/tubvehbar.html
http://www.a1-autoracks.com/pooch.html |
M. K. Watson (Lrover94)
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:00 am: |
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i will chime in on this as well, i have two German Short Hair Pointers and the boxes work well. the problem is once they are in there is no room for anything else. Wick is a hunting dog company and they offer a two box carrier for SUV's it goes for about $195.00. the dog guard may be a worthy investment if you have one dog or two that get along real well, plus it makes a nice place to bungie stuff to.
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mike w |
Rob Davison (Pokerob)
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:06 am: |
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www.dap-inc.com has some less expensive options, i can't say anything about quality as i've never seen them first hand.
rd |
mike little
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:14 am: |
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Good morning BW, have you ever seen the Trek dog guard?
I would not use any of the available pet guards for a load space barrier, the Trek one is much sturdier and would most likely survive an incident. I am not so sure about some from pet smart etc. |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:46 pm: |
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Those last two carriers are a joke (in the links above). I have two Goldens and I would bet dollars that either of them as large as they are could get through some of those openings. You would be surprised at what a frantic dog can get through if panicked.
We have the DSII LR official barrier. It is ok, they cannot get through the grill, but I agree with the folks above that a good crate is best on any type of a road trip. They settle down and seem to relax. Without the crate, they can get agitated and dig like crazy. Plus, the crate minimizes the damn hairs that starts flying around when you open the window...
I have seen the Trek product -- up at Moab Matt had it on display for On the Road last year. I agree, it appears pricey, however, I have no clue about production costs. But that is not the point -- I think Matt's gaurd is extraodinarily strong. Made my LR product look like stamped grill made from a pie tin. Plus, the unit was modular in that other add-ons could be used in the rear carrier.
I do not think my barrier could stop a sailing chicken in an accident. But my hunch is that Matt's could stop a dog. The product I saw was beefy. |
BW
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 06:49 pm: |
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I have seen the one Trek sells. Not just regular weed, I'm talking super weed. |
Ronnie
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:14 pm: |
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I'll chime in on the genuine LR model. It is very sturdy (although, I'm sure not as sturdy as Trek) and was obviously built for the Discovery. I have a dalmation that weighs 50ish pounds and he has put his full weight against it looking over the rear seats, trying to see what I'm doing. It fits perfectly and when the main unit is not in use, the two mounting brackets take up absolutely no space. |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:00 pm: |
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Well BW, then LR flat-out must be on psychedelics. I think their price is right about the same ball park's as Matt's, no? Yet, their guard is nowhere as strong as Matt's.
Hmmm... Better product, roughly same price as the "official" inferior product.
Conclusion: Trek is smoking "super weed." ???
Curious logic there. |
JRoc
| | Posted on Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:04 pm: |
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Thanx for all the reply's guys, I should've made myself clear. I only called it a dog guard because that's what I've seen it called. I'm actually going to use it as a "Load Space Thingy" LOL I liked the one that Trek Outfitters is selling but it just seems like they're Exploiting the fact that we're Land Rover Owners! Nice design but I've seen custom cages made out of heavier gauge metal for about half the price, And they're fully enclosed! I feel that by patronizing that type of price gouging we actually encourage it. I'd love to meet Mat one day and tell him he'd sell a boat load of more product if he'd price his stuff more competetively! The sliders that TO sells look to be very well made too, but they're one of the most expensive rock sliders you can find. Anyway, thanks again guys and Disco Web rocks! |
BW
| | Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:48 am: |
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"Well BW, then LR flat-out must be on psychedelics"
Your right.
Come on guys . . . do you really think these guys are putting that much cost in parts and labor?
The $350 Trek barrier doesn't even have cross members that go lower than the height of the rear seats.
I don't mind paying a lot of money for quality. In fact, I think the Trek barrier is by far the best cargo barrier on the DISCO market. I just think the price is WAY too much . . . but hey, I'm just a cheap bastard I guess. |
JRoc
| | Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:44 pm: |
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Hey Michael,
There's good reason for people refering to the dealership as the "stealership"!!! The stuff Matt's designing/selling is great but he's pricing ALOT of people out of the interest in his product. If he's happy doing that then good for him. I personally think he'd sell a ton more if his products were 20-30% less expensive. And just for the record, I'm no cheap bastard! I didn'
t buy a Land Rover because it's the cheapest vehicle I could find!!! And by the way it should also be mentioned that Matt has graciously extended a discount to Disco Web surfers. I don't think Trek Outfitters gets as much Kudos as they deserve because they price there stuff for a "select few" as opposed to the masses. Food for thought: Designers, Manufacturers, and Marketeer's are very seldom, if ever, one man operations! |
Ronnie
| | Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 11:14 pm: |
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I don't consider $190 and $350 in the same ballpark. Again, I'm not saying Trek is not worth 350 (I've never seen one in person) but for $190 the LR model should do just about everything you need... |
Michael Villanueva (Michael)
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:30 am: |
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I am not sure, Jroc, I agree with you. A year ago I would have agreed. 10 -20%? A year ago I would have agreed, but frankly, nowadays I am not as positive.
It may be that the only market Matt has priced himself out of is the whiney "I want everything at cost + .01%" market.
These are the same ones that spend hours and hours looking to shave a dollar off the price, weiging shipping and taxes, then calling endlessly asking for descriptive information and then usually do some homegrown version after raping and bitching and sucking.
Don't take these comments as a personal attack (as is easy to do via this medium), I am musing aloud here.
The facts is he is in business, and seems to be doing Ok; however, for the last two years I have heard the same version of the same story. How if Trek was only this or that amount cheaper then... Same old causal argument: If this, then that.
Personally, if I could do well selling to the "few" the elite, have the elite as my clientele, as opposed to the masses, I would jump on it. As a rule of thumb, It is fun to do business with the elite. They enjoy quality, can afford it, appreciate design, and purchase quickly and quietly. Not all. But most.
As a rule of thumb, the masses tend to whine, exude entitlement, are cheap, and generally are informational vampires for a long time before they buy -- if they buy at all. Not all. But most. |
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