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Author Message   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:36 pm:    number 3.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:43 pm:    that's what I'm talkin about.   Mel A. (Krawlrovr) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:52 pm:    Lookin' good. Is that the top part of an ARB bullbar?   Kyle Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 04:00 pm:    Yeah , Ax had a donor so we could check out the "Look" its pretty much a bastard bumper Kyle   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:10 pm:    Very cool looking! I like the ARB tubing look alot. Now to get some some of that stuff going out here on in West Ho do you have a KVT bumper? JK   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:30 pm:    sorry, i dont' have a KVT bumper. all i have is: the NATO type. now, what do i do with a junked ARB bumper that i have here sitting pretty taking up space?   Jeremy Katka (Jkatka) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:12 pm:    How do you junk an ARB if I may ask? Usally people just cut off the bent parts or so I thought. JK   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:28 pm:    ask Axel   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:45 pm:    jeremy, there are things called incidents and accidents. and usualy accidents tend to junk whatever you got on the truck.   Moe (Moe) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:51 pm:    Yep, that's what I wanted to see. Nice solid looking bumper.   Kyle Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:53 pm:    Well , I hate to break it to all the ARB lovers but the ARB tubing is about the same thickness as the LRNA tubing.... Kyle   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:17 pm:    HO, the truck is looking good. Why not give us a run down of your components? Maybe include a shot that lets everyone see those Rancho Shocks hiding in there???   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:30 pm:    Did you say Rancho? Ho, I am begining to think you are getting a cut from the Red Shock Manufacturers. Do you have any comment? Paul   John Lee Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:33 pm:    I think that's the new KRB bumper. Looks damn good.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:37 pm:    yeah, but what's up with that steering stabilizer?   Kyle Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:05 pm:    Now how did I get infected ? God damn..... Kyle   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:08 pm:    Yup, the Rancho virus is spreading. Way to go Greg.   Michael Villanueva (Michael) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:10 pm:    I don't know. It's not quite right.   p m Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:28 pm:    agree with you, Mike. rancho letters should be in black. peter   Michael Villanueva (Michael) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:35 pm:    Damn... a rare instance of anyone on DW agreeing with me and it is not what I was directing my comment to! I was referring to the bumper -- it is not quite right. And that is being as gentle as I can be.   Moe (Moe) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:10 pm:    Yeah, I think the valet boys might turn you down if you roll up with KRB Even though the LR and ARB metal isn't that different I suspect the mounting is more solid and the bars are better placed for protection of the front end, lights etc   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:14 pm:    it's too squatty looking with the KVT bob-nose bumper look,,, a little tweaking here and there will work wonders on it. rd   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:30 pm:    I know, and the bear I was poking hasn't even chimed in yet................ Oh well, I guess I just have yellow truck envy. gp (not Garrett)   p m Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:31 pm:    rob, a little tweaking means making an ARB brush bar look-alike from scratch. but, i like it the way it is already. peter   Michael Villanueva (Michael) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:36 pm:    Can't help it Moe. But you are absolutely correct. The Bastard, the ARB -- both will get the job done I suppose. But only the KVT can get the job done _and_ stoke the valet boys.   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:46 pm:    yes, pm you are exactly right. i think it looks like a uni-brow as it sits, in the above picture rd   Curtis N (Curtis) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:27 am:    I don't like the KRB nearly as much as the KVT (or KRNA). I am sure I am in the minority, but I like the KVT as a blade only. Brush bars just don't do it for me. More of a liability than an asset. At least the KRNA KVT has the right "look" though Curtis   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:39 am:    I don't like ARB because of how low it goes, and I don't like the LRNA because it wraps around. I really DO like this KRB best so far..... it doesn't wrap around, and has great clearance. Now, when there's a K-version of the CT brush-bar, I'll be ringin' someone up on the phone as quick as I can get my pennies piled up.... -L   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:00 am:    lol............ Kyle   p m Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:39 am:    as quick as I can get my pennies piled up.... jeez, i just emptied my rangie's ashtray coin collection into some guy's hand... the idea of a KCT bumper hasn't crossed my mind! peter   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:03 pm:    Peter, if you keep feeding wild pigeons, they never go away and they just continue to shit all over you home.   p m Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:30 pm:    lol, i do it at some distance from home. in fact, in some really upscale neigborhood. peter   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:45 pm:    ahhhh....the old "feed the sharks over here, and dive over there" routine. very good then.   my96disco (Trevorh) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:58 pm:    Nice Bar, but what happens when this hits over here? How will the NEW ARB look? Makes me ashamed to admit I am an Australian by birth..... Out of the Sydney Morning Herald site. "Law may force 4WD owners to fit new bullbars" By Robert Wainwright, State Political Correspondent July 31 2002 Thousands of four-wheel drive owners across Australia may be forced to fit smaller bullbars to their vehicles as governments face increased pressure to enforce design laws because of safety fears. The NSW Minister for Transport, Carl Scully, announced yesterday that he wanted a national approach to the issue, including improved designs for bullbars on four-wheel drive vehicles driven in the city. And the public action group, the Pedestrian Council of Australia, warned there would be major insurance ramifications unless governments acted to force retrospective standards on all vehicles with bullbars. Mr Scully said he would raise the issue at the Council of Australian Transport Ministers when it met next week to ensure a co-ordinated, Australia-wide approach to making four-wheel drives safer. "The issues to be discussed include making a 'reverse alarm' mandatory for all new four-wheel drive vehicles, and improving the design of bullbars fitted to four-wheel drives in the future to minimise injuries to pedestrians," he said. "In addition, the introduction of better mirrors to improve visibility for drivers of four-wheel drives when reversing will be examined. "Four-wheel drives with bullbars have become increasingly popular and are here to stay, so we need to ensure that they are as safe as possible when being driven in the city. "There are many areas in which the NSW Government is trying to encourage improved vehicle design to minimise road trauma." The chairman of the Pedestrian Council of Australia, Harold Scruby, welcomed the move, and said new design standards for bullbars would soon be released by Standards Australia. Mr Scruby, who has championed the fight against "Mad Max" bullbars, predicted there would be major legal ramifications, including insurance claims, unless governments took a tough stance. "We welcome the comments of Mr Scully, especially as we will soon have a Standards Australia design on bullbars," Mr Scruby said. "It will be ready within a month. We would like all vehicles, within a reasonable period of time, to be brought up to that standard. "If anyone argues against forcing older cars to comply then I would remind people about the changes to gun laws, seat belts and random breath testing. These are just new, safer standards." Mr Scruby said the new standard would mean a bullbar would have to fit within the original profile of the vehicle. It could not protrude forward of the bumper bar or be wider than the vehicle. It would also have to slope backwards, and have no sharp edges or protrusions like fishing rod holders. "I believe that 90 per cent of current bullbars do not comply. If governments think they can ignore this issue then they should think about the insurance implications," Mr Scruby warned. Expect a redesign of the ARB and TJM. TrevorH   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:27 pm:    I thought Oz was supposed to be relatively free of pussies.... What do you expect from a guy who's busi card reads "State Political Correspondent"?   my96disco (Trevorh) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:38 pm:    The OZ I left 10 years ago was, but lately it seems to be getting as bad as the "States" (no offence to anyone) playground equipment being removed due to problems with public liability insurance increases etc. Really pisses me off. The clowns seem to be running the circus. Trevor   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:52 pm:    when i was there two years ago it was a bit of an epedemic. passenger busses to mini cars to land cruisers. every damn car had a bull bar or some ghetto version of it, it was kind of hilarious. everyone says, oh well they have all those damn roo... well, i think it is simply comparable to our deer problems , at least in my area. all the city busses and cars dont really need that stuff, it's all for looks. i am in favor of having a law that says you either use it or loose it. 4x4 must offroad, sports car must go to the track. POS kids car must not be allowed to have rim's and neon under it unless it is in excelent condition or you are a real pimp. you can add more as you think of them. also i would be judge and jury for this particular law. rd   muskyman Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:01 pm:    chrome is only allowed on vehicles on trailers kyle, you have proven you can make a really cool bumper...now stop grafting on someone elses handy work and you will truley have something. I do like the ARB bar better then the stock one so what does that monster winch weigh?   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:08 pm:    Musky , its far easier and cheaper to fuck around nailing on something to see how it looks a month later then it is to create crap . It also helps to blend all the versions into the truck. take a look at everything out there and fine one that looks natural ? After your search let me know what ya comeup with. I am working on my own but I fear it will not be a "Big deal" to most. I am into blending man because I like the look of the truck. That take a shit load of trial and error... WHile I am doing this people are getting bumpers here and there that I hope they are very happy with... Kyle   muskyman Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:15 pm:    I agree...simple is better the bar I have on my scout is funny book simple but it dosent detract from the scout look so I like it way better then the ones you can/could buy I think your on the right track....i'd tell you to ignore what people say...but now that you hung that shimmering shingle out...you may have to looking good   Peter Carey (Pcarey) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:18 pm:    I'm in favor of use it or loose it. My biggest gripe is if it's sunny and there's no one in the car with you and you're driving to work, you have to take a motorcycle. Large black vans must have a bed in the back and shag carpetting also. pwc   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:24 pm:    One thing you have to hand to Kyle...he's true to preserving stock LR, for better or for worse. Some of the wild-ass bumpers out there just don't mix with LR's consistency (not to be confused with banality). I like the straightforward ARB bar look, but it could use some character in the middle section like the stock brushbar (alleviate the unibrow look). Mainly I like the ARB look because I just hate my damn shitty stock brush bar   p m Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:33 pm:    alleviate the unibrow look? like, make it like stock LR brush bar with fluffy ears? i like the unibrow look. peter   Greg P. (Gparrish) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:33 pm:    Kyle, I have an ARB on my DII up in Philly if need another project bumper. I'd love to have one of your creations......... The approach angle is so much better than the ARB bumper. The only thing I would add to your current creation would be a skid plate. No winch yet, but would like to be able to mount a milemarker......... Food for thought............. Greg   Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco) Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:35 pm:    Ditto on the offer of a DII with a donor ARB. I'm in the Metro DC area. Who knows after my trip to Paragon I'll be replacing the front and rear.