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William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just realized yesterday that my inspection has been expired since December. I took it today to a Penzoil "Pit Stop" and the bastard flunked me on the grounds that I have a power steering leak. It has never dripped or left a stain on the driveway, just a little moist.

Then he told me after I payed him, so of course I expressed a little foul discernment and the son of a bitch started bumping up against me, threatning to kick my ass!

Good way to waist 45 minutes and $12.50

FYI - For you Austin Rovers, this place in on East Oltorf st.
 

Phillip Perkinson (R0ver4x4)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

haha what a dick
 

Myktoolbox
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought in Texas you you could kill him, cook him and eat him for bumping you?!?!
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I guess I could have, but then the cops would have came, and I would have gotten a ticket for driveing without inspection! :)
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

William, let me at him... I believe you should plug your steering box leak with his flayed skin. Go back and beat the living shit out of this cracker.
 

Mark Meyer (Deadelus)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

William,

Man, that really sucks ass. How in the hell is it possible that a leaky power steering is against the laws. It is still Texas right? Since when do they look under the hood for an inspection? Thanks for the tip regarding inspections though, although I can't honestly say I'd be caught dead looking for good service on East Oltorf....

Mark
fellow Austin Rover
 

Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

shoot him!...


I read here on dweb it will only cost you 30 to 50 k

shoot him!

any recommondations on loads?

help me i'm not a gun guy
 

gun guy
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hollow point, anon - better get at least two, one for penzoil dipshit, and one for your dumb ass :)
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

naw....shooting is not a good idea. That's premeditated murder. Just go beat his sorry thieving ass.
 

DonC
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mark drop me a email about a place up on the north side. If your PS is leaking that bad then please get it fixed ( I bet just the hose clamps) but some places here in Austin just see a LR as a way to make money. I had a place offer to fix mine for a couple of hundred and then they would pass me. Told him where to go and went on about it myself. Yes I did pass.

DonC
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

See, thats the thing, my power steering isn't leaking bad at all. I only have to top it off every 6000 miles or more, and its no where close to empty then.

I found a place in my little home town that will inspect it, but that will have to wait until the weekend. Hell, if I made it sense december, I guess I could make it till Sat. (knock on wood)
 

Anonymous 2
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hollow points are good, but I perfer good ole hydro-shocks.....:)
 

JMcD
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Remington Black Talons(now banned) I have some still in .45. Loan you my SIG P220, if that doesn't do it, it can't be done.. (except with my Bennelli 12 gauge autloader) JMcD
 

Myktoolbox
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Seek out the fabeled "Black Talon" shell....
 

John Lee
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Remington made the Black Talons?
 

Myktoolbox
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry JMcD, didn't mean to duplicate your suggestion. Your post didn't appear when I logged on, only after I hit refresh.

Great minds, yadda yadda yadda...
 

JMcD
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yes they do MYK, yes they do.. I am almost sure John, or was it the Golden Sabre?? Cant remember, Now I gotta get up and go look....... JMcD
 

JMcD
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ahhhh John, you are right, Winchester makes the oh so scary Black Talon, Remington makes the Golden Sabre... Please move to the head of the class.... :) JMcD
 

Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Winchester Black Talon
Remington Golden Sabre
CCI-Speer Gold Dot
PMC Star Fire
 

JMcD
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeff,Do they still make the Glaser safety slug? JMcD
 

Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Go back to the place after dark and royally mess up everything in there.

For every dollar they screw you out of cost them 1000.

Passive aggressive :)

They probably would not even think it was you
 

Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah. I'm pretty sure they do.

There are a ton of exotic rounds out there. Even the Black Talon isn't really gone. There is a LEO version that I have in .45ACP in white unmarked boxes.

There's also the Cor-Bon JHP loads, but I didn't like them. They were pretty hot.

All this is too nasty for me though. The best way to get someone back car wise is to superglue a BB into their valve stem cap. It causes a slow leak and no one ever thinks of the valve stem cap as going bad. They will check the tires, the valve, the rim, but not the cap.
 

JMcD
Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Really? I have an old box,marked as they originaly were,didn't know they still made it. Does it feed ok? Mine fed well through my sig, not through my gov model 1911.. I love the bb in the valve stem, I am unsure whether I would rather be shot with a hot .45 or spend 2 months chasing a slow leak in my tire.....Have to get back to ya on that one.... JMcD
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I got a HOT temper, just pulling a trigger wouldn't releave my agression. I'm with Blue, get a good Craftsman ball peen hammer, or the trusty Mag light and show him what a leak really looks like. On him, not the car!

Actually it is state law that they check the gas cap for leakage, and he didn't. Plus after telling his manager, and the DPS that he treatened me with physical violence, I can have his job. Then he will be wondering how he is going to pay that outrageous sex call phone bill.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

>"Go back to the place after dark and royally mess up everything in there.

For every dollar they screw you out of cost them 1000.

Passive aggressive"

I must vehemently disagree with this approach. As one who has had made many very good friends, but also many enemies, I have had my defenseless possessions fucked with on more than one occasion. I can't stand this approach, and I do not employ it myself. Creeping in after dark to scratch a car or throw a brick through a window is for the weak. That is NOT passive aggressive. However, creeping in after dark to have a heart to heart conversation with this guy is different. I prefer to meet force with force and escalate just a bit if the situation warrants it...penzoil boy took your money, cheated you, then bumped into you to intimidate you? He should have required smelling salts to come to and an MRI scan thereafter.

also never understood the evil Black Talon issue...guess it's all about the media...
 

rose (Rose)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Is all this "how I'm gonna kill this guy" talk over $12.50?? You guys are making those monkeys who kill eachother for basketball shoes look like nice guys.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

good point, Rose. William, you should go thank this guy for screwing you. Maybe give him your credit card or a blank check as thanks and then go home and vote one of the Baldwin brothers into office.
 

gp (Garrett)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

i still like your past suggestion blue about using a nice 2X4 soaked in water.
has nothing to do with $ rose. just the principle of it. sure you can just walk away from something like that, but you are letting that grease monkey get away with doing that to someone else. the 2X4 would make sure he didn't.

wood is good. :)
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

A DPS officer is going to call me Monday and set up a time to meet so I can write a statement.

Also, on the receipt, I just read "If defects indicated above are corrected and the vehicle returned to the original inspection station within 15 days, vehicle will be reinspected once with no additional fee."

So I am just gonna go down to the car wash, wash off all the oil, and take it to him like that. If he passes me or not, just stroling back in there and demanding my FREE inspection will be well worth it.

I am still gonna write him up though.
 

Lawrence Tilly (L_Tilly)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

My personal fav were the Glasers. I used to keep them in my Tarus 9mm when I lived in a home w/ gas heat / gas cooking. In theory, the "safty slugs" had the best chance of not rupturing a gas pipe if they hit the wall while at the same time turing someone's abdominal cavity into linguinie. I know similar loads were being packed by some of the LE officers we had on our plane while I was in the Air Force so I was willing to buy into the hype.

L_Tilly [email protected]
96 Disco "Beowulf" NH, USA
 

WhoDatMatt
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey JMcd - Have you had any other rounds give you probs with your 1911? I have a .45 Colt defender that doesn't feed certain rounds well. Just curious.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Will, that is indeed the responsible thing to do.

Garrett, soak that two-by in oil, not water....
 

Kingfish (Kingfish)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey you gun guys, ever tried the Sherrif Brody (from Jaws) method? Drop some liquid in the hollow point and then seal it in with wax? I never got around to it. By the way, the Black Talons have been replaced by the more p/c name of Fail Safe. I believe they changed the color from silver and black to something else. Otherwise, I think its still the same thing. It was just a p/c change.

Trivia question: anyone remember the "Rhino" bullets Charles Schumer made an ass of himself trying to ban? Can anyone tell me why he couldnt ban them?
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I just took it back and PASSED!

I am still gonna write him up
 

DonC
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

William.. Good news on the pass.. Let me know how it goes with the DPS officer..

Don
 

JMcD
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

To be honest with you Matt, my 1911 doesn't feed any rounds real well, I have two, one old one I left the Army with, and a newer one. The newer one has had the feed ramp beveled and polished, but it still has problems with anything but FMJ(full metal Jacket) rounds.. The older on stovepipes about every 10th hollow point, kinda stinks. I finally broke down and bought a sig, it has NEVER jammed, ever!! I still love the colts though, just not if my life is on the line.

Trivia Answer: The black Rhino never existed, it was just a plastic type(like the Glaser SS) round that had no penetrating capabilitie whatsoever.. Just lots of marketing hype.

Also, "chuck" doesn't need any help making an Ass of himself, it clearly comes naturally to him JMcD
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

>"Trivia question: anyone remember the "Rhino" bullets Charles Schumer made an ass of himself trying to ban? Can anyone tell me why he couldnt ban them?

Schumer was big on the "Cop Killer Bullet Ban" which would prohibit the manufacture and importation of "full jacket projectiles" greater than .22 caliber. The "cop-killer" bullet amendment would ban bullets on the basis of their armor-piercing ability rather than their component materials. This means that many standard types of bullets would have been covered in this sweeping ban. Banning guns by banning bullets is what it comes down to.
 

Kingfish (Kingfish)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

JMcD is correct. It never existed. Schumer made himself and his cause look very stupid.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

True, plans for the black rhino were withdrawn before it was ever actually made - withdrawn due to all the media hype about them being able to penetrate body armor, not due to any facts based on the hype. Schumer was one of the main sources of all that hype - he lent a "credible" political source to the claims that this was cop killer ammo. When the news about the evil black rhino broke, Shumer hopped into the limelight and immediately pledged to file legislation to ban the black rhino and any other present and future cop killer bullets, based performance standards not composition (important point). Schumer added the Cop Killer Bullet Ban to the Omnibus Crime Act of 1994. All these things showed him to be the ignorant political spotlight-grabbing ass he indeed is.

hehe some things I do follow in the news....
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Thursday, February 28, 2002 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

The local DPS rep, just contacted me and said that they have had complaints about this looser before, just not this extreem. He was encouraging me to write the statement so he could get him out of the inspection business. Then who knows what action his manager will take.

Whooopeee
 

ken knebusch (Charlotterover)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

William,

Don't let this go. Make sure you send in a nice detailed letter. Most of the time people will just take it. If all else fails....I can get on a plane from NC, be there and gone in an hour!!

Good luck!
Ken
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Will:
First off, congratulations for using the "System" to resolve this.

Just imagine what this POS idiot would have thought had you pulled your legally carried concealed weapon and informed him he'd just committed the tortious act of battery and that you were placing him under citizen's arrest and would he be so kind as to call the local constabulary and inform them that he'd just been arrested and would they come over and take him into custody before you shot him!

Somehow, if this happened more often, I suspect we'd have fewer such situations.

I can take a lot, just don't touch me in a rude and unwanted manner. Certainly, don't threaten me with grievous bodily harm-that will get you shot.

Now, for those of you with feeding problems with your automatics, I have never had a feeding problem with my revolver! That should get it going.

Paul, the gun-totin' peacenik
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hmmmm.......

Nope, not had a problem with my Para, no stovepipes or anything.... I do prefer 185gr Gold-Dot JHPs over the heavier rounds... they hit a bit faster, and when you pop 13 off in a hurry, it's easier to manage than going up to the 230+gr wt range...


:)


-L
 

Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

With my Commander, I have problems with some JHP's, but not others. Hydra-Shok loads well and I've never had a jam with them, so that's my load. I've considered going to 185gr. Something to try out.

As for Paul, I have a feeling you're version of what the world would be like would result in a lot of folks getting shot and a lot of guys with guns in jail for manslaughter.

Guy #1 gets a little physical (not life threatening, just a bit of shoving).

Guy #2 pulls gun and says, "I'm making a citizen's arrest!"

Guy #1 says, "Get stuffed." and steps towards Guy #2.

Guy #2 opens fire.

"Your Honor, I feared for my life. He assaulted me."

"Then why don't you have any marks on you? What was his weapon? Did you attempt to leave the scene to defuse the situation?"

"Uh, no. He stepped at me again so I shot him."

Ask the hockey dad in the NE about escalation of force and where he wound up.
 

Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I agree, Jeff.

To be honest, I think William's handling the situation as well as can be... he left when it got physical, and let the authorities deal with the culprit. Guns are only for when there isn't any other way.


-L
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Well put! When you have some means of recourse, such as knowing a person's name or place of employment, the court system has the ability to deal effectively.

As for the hockey dad, he left and returned, hence, that was, and is premeditated murder, the same as if he had left the scene and returned with a gun.

Now, back to Will's situation, he still has the option of a civil suit against this miscreant. Doing this might also change things. He also has the option of a civil suit against the shop where it happened as they apparently condone such behavior on the part of their employees. Now, that would make for some interesting changes in personnel policies.

Here in my home town, the Chief of Police made the mistake of recently saying that it was the citizenry's fault that we had a crime increase. You should hear the outcry from that.

My revolver still doesn't misfeed, nor smokestack.

Peace,
Paul
 

Kingfish (Kingfish)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jeff, the law clearly states that if your life is in danger, you (armed or not) are obliged to RETREAT. You can't shoot someone because they are threating you. Now on the other hand, if you are in your home, you DO NOT have an obligation to retreat. In other words, if someone says they are going to beat you to a pulp with a 2x4 that has a giant rusty nail sticking out of it, you must make an attempt to flee. Shooting the person will get you into heaps of legal trouble (unless this happens in your home). As a note, if it does happen in your home and you have the Sig 220 or colt 1911, 13 rounds wont be needed, 7 will be plenty. Remember, when you're judged by colt and his jury of 6, you're always guilty.
 

William Turner (Wturner)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I only have 2 guns, one is a Remington (870 express?) 12 gauge (synthetic stock, so it blends into the darkness!), and a WWI Russian issue 8mm Mouser.

Neither one is a very discrete approach.
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

hey Paul - I can shoot thirteen 40-cal rounds out of my HK, drop the mag, reload, and repeat same 3 times. All in as much time as it takes to pull the trigger and perform a tac reload. That's 53 rounds (started with one chambered) in less than a minute. How's that revolver doin? :)

-Peace,
Blue

P.S. only had two probs with the USP40 - stovepipe with cheap-ass aluminum casings (ejector chewed-up edge of casing) - when it stovepipes, a quick tap, rack, bang solves it. I also accidentally shot a 9mm out of the 40 once (practicing with both USP9 & USP40). The bullet fired fine, but the blowback wasn't enough to eject the casing. The casing expanded from 9mm to 10mm (inner diam or barrel) without cracking - pretty cool.
 

Jeff Bieler (Mrbieler)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Blue, you are a special human being...
 

Blue (Bluegill)
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Special K, that's what the doctors call me...

Have I told you all about Mr. T. and his merry band of 30-round banana mags?
 

JMcD
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Leslie, don't make the mistake of thinking that because your Para O looks like a 1911 and was modeled after the 1911 it is a colt.. As I am sure you are aware, the ParaO is a far superior weapon in design and assembly.. Comparing the two is like thinking the Monte-Carlo you buy at the chevy dealership is the same one Jeff Gordon raced last wknd at the Rock.

If you have a large enough hand to comfortably hold the Para and like idea of carrying cocked and locked, the para is the way to go. At least in my humble opinion :) JMcD

Though I could be wrong....
 

Stick
Posted on Friday, March 01, 2002 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Humble? no.................. Right? Yes
 

Markd1x2 (Markd1x2)
Posted on Saturday, March 02, 2002 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If one shoots an intruder and he/she makes it into the front yard and or street.... do you need to drag the carcass back into your house ?
The first blood trail might need a "plumber" but If you could explain that you first drug them out so they wouldn't bleed all over you newly reconditioned heartpine flooring ... and then decided that wasn't the right thing to do ... and drug them back in. Don't forget not to mistake unconscious for "dead". Let at least one of those "He/she was in my personal space" Black Talon cartridges must make its way to the cerebral cortex in a terminal way.
Another cup of blood... and some cheese, please.

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