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Mike T
Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am looking at putting a second battery in my 99 Disco 1. I was told that I can remover the jack from under the bonnet and put it there. I have also been e-mailing a guy a Opposite Lock about an isolater. He has suggested the MH10. Does anyone use this model? I checked ARB and TJM, but wasn't able to locate any isolaters on their sites. Also once I get all the stuff the install is it very difficult? I am quite the novice when it comes to this kind of thing. Any input will be greatly appreciated.
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mike:
There are even blind threaded bolt holes beneath the jack to make it easier. The only difficulty you will have will be moving the power steering reservoir (bend the bracket). I don't use an isolator and have my batteries wired in parallel.

When you go about hooking up the cables, start at the new battery and connect the positives, then, go to the negative and work from the new battery to the old one. If you have to remove the new battery, disconnect the negative from the new battery and then, disconnect the positive from the old battery. In this fashion, you will be isolating the batteries from each other and minimizing your opportunities for catastrophic failure. Batteries can be dangerous, but it is clearly an acceptable risk as we don't see batteries exploding on the side of the street on a daily basis.

Use the isolator if you wish, but it is nothing more than a solenoid and they can be bought at almost any parts house-sorensen P/N SS94-they (Sorensen) list this particular solenoid as being suitable for this application, as well as being a direct replacement for most winching applications and snow plow control applications. You can buy prepared cables at your local parts house also-just get the end connectors you need. I use battery clamps on one end and ring terminals on the other.
 

Mike T
Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Paul: Thanks for the input. Do you have any diagrams or photos?
 

Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Sorry Mike, it looks so bush-league, I'd be embarrassed to show the pics on this site!

I believe that there may be some pics of how others have done it in the gallery, though.

The best part though is that I had mounted the battery under the hood, but not run the cables. On the coldest day of the year, I went out to my truck to go to lunch and found the battery dead. After an embarrassingly long period of time, I discovered I'd left the lights on and drained my primary battery. Again, using just a screwdriver, crescent wrench and needle nose pliers, I hooked up the cables and drove to lunch! The cables were in the boot!
 

Mike T
Posted on Friday, August 16, 2002 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Paul,
Thanks again for all your input. I have checked the "tech" portion of the site and did a "keyword search" but no joy.

If anyone else has a diagram, photos, or both please post them. I am very interested in adding the new battery, but I am honestly a little scared about blowing myself up. I'm kind of kidding, but not really.
 

Cliff Reade (Cliffreade)
Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I recently did a dual battery install with an isolator from a company called Hellroaring. Check out their website. This was on a 99 Disco 1. I really had no electrical experience but after a couple of days and multiple trips to autozone I had it installed. It was actually kind of fun. I can put pictures up if you want, I've been told it's a real clean install by professionals -- how I did that I have no clue.
 

Glenn Guinto (Glenn)
Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cliff,

Please do post some pics... I would love to do the same thing with my 99D1. Also, do you have the link to the "Hellroaring" website? Thanks!

-glenn
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cliff, Do you have any pictures to share yet? That dang Engel discussion has me thinkin.

thanks
pwc
 

Cliff Reade (Cliffreade)
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hey guys, sorry I haven't checked the page lately. I'll be glad to take some pictures of the layout for the dual battery as soon as I get home from work today. As for the Hellroaring site it is www.hellroaring.com. I've been very pleased with the product. On their web page they advertise the BIC-75300A but when I called they actually have an 800000 or so series that is available that is supposed to be even better, so that is what I got. I purchaed the remote module and installed that as well which has been nice. I have 6 Hella lights, a rather large stereo system, power inverter with mounted computer and gps, and CB and all are powered nicely. I purchased the Optima Yellow top as my main batter and have everything connected to it directly, then I purchased an Optima Red top as my backup battery. I realize this is pricey but I make some treks where it's very expensive to get a jump and there is nobody else around so I wanted to be very secure. The Hellroaring unit allows the alternator to supply current to your main batter and also to continuously charge your backup. In case your main batter goes dead, all you do is flip a switch and your backup battery is connected to the setup for your main batttery so everything is powered. I chose the yellow top for the main battery because of the long load time it can deliver. I then chose the red top as a backup for its craking amps if I ever need it for cold weather, although not probably necessary in NC but if I ever make that trek to Alaska it will be nice. I'll post the pictures later--
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks Cliff.

pwc
 

cliffreade
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, here are three pictures, the red top is the backup battery, the yellowtop is the primary battery, and there are two views of the isolator. I mounted this on the back of the fan housing unit as I could not find much room elsewhere. I haven't had any problems with this mount.

1,cbackup

2,primary

3,overhead

4,isolator
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Pictures didn't come through. If they are too big, shrink 'em down. Otherwise send them to me directly and I can make sure they show up. I hope. :)
pwc
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

also he needs to be a registered user (and signed in)

rd
 

Cliff Reade (Cliffreade)
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, sorry for the delay, but I couldn't get decent enough quality pictures around 1kb, so here's the best I could do.

primary

backup

overhead

isolator
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Cliff,
If you go through the simple registering process you can post pics up to 80KB.
Can you send me each of the pictures normal size, please?

thanks!
pwc
[email protected]
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Here are Cliff's pics a little bigger. Although I must say, I'm impressed with his ability to get them under 1K. :)
backup
primary
top
close
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Duty called me away from the computer....
again:
primary
backup
top
close up

pwc
 

-Otto-
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Hi Peter!
I saw the picture and i`m wondering about the airfilterbox.Got the same but have a TDI.
I didn´t saw a snorkel,only a hole in the box
I closed the stock hole in front,put another hole
on the left side use the stock snorkel and put it beside the cooler right near the servopumpreservoir.
You need the stocksnorkel to put enough air in the fiterbox!!!!!
Greatings from good old Germany
-OTTO-
 

Mike T
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Thanks for the pictures Peter. That looks great. Knowing that a fellow novice did it gives me hope for me.
 

Peter Carey (Pcarey)
Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 05:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Just to clairify, those were Cliff's pictures.

The easy way to tell Cliff's engine from mine:
If it's black and clean - It's Cliff's.
If it's brown and in need of steam cleaning - It's mine. :-)

pwc

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