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Author Message   hendrik Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 06:10 am:    Hi there, I hope I´m allowed to forward a Link to you that has been mentioned by StephanP in a german b/b. Seems like he drives a Nissan so might not bother ?;) Very cute - deserves to be distributed ... http://www.hummerger.de/film/Hummer-Tip.mpeg   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:06 am:    I like the exchanged "high fives" after the idiot tipped it over. Thanks for the contribution, very nice.   Kyle Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 08:12 am:    Yeah , and dude gets "The walk" goin....lol... Kyle   Leslie N. Bright (Leslie) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:12 am:    ROTFLOL! At first, I was just thinkin' there's no reason to bother with a ramp-test if your back wheel's going to go up the ramp too. But when he got out and, well.... I'm just glad that someone had it on video-tape so he can remember that years from now.... -L   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:02 am:    ho needs to keep that link somewhere. we are always looking for a copy of it. "yeah, he's cool" rd   Dee Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:14 am:    Now thats some funny shit....   Dee Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:15 am:    I guess if i ramped my 30 ft motor home it would do the same thing???   Robert Sublett (Rubisco98) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 03:26 pm:    Good lord, what a f*&*ing moron. I'd like to see a shot from the other side to see how high that other side was off the ground in the front. So, had that idiot just finished a case of Cuervo Gold or something?   darrel Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 04:12 pm:    that must have been fun for the two people still in the thing!! what a hummer   Bill Molnar (Circekat) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 05:17 pm:    All that I can think of is: What is this, Idiot's day at the ramp? How slow can you be? I do not believe that this person did that. I hope that wife gets home soon, she'll die laughing. Bill M.   petern12 Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:15 pm:    ...well, at least the guy can now honestly brag to his drinking buddies about having "single-handedly" flipped a perfectly good 6500lbs Hummer over. Man I would've killed to be there in that room when he tried explaining the accident to the insurance Adjuster...   Eric Pena (Evalp) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:24 pm:    That is too good. I kept thinking when is it going to role!!! What a FLIPING idiot. HAHA, I crack my self up.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 07:44 pm:    what a dumb fuck. bet ya he puked off camera   Milan Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 08:17 pm:    Well, I just came upon this thread and I guess I see all the usual responses. The video happens to be from a Show&Shine event our Jeep club put on last year. The driver of that Hummer has a bad-ass Toyota LC that sits on 44 Boggers and won the ramp competition. He drove it in this year's Top Truck Challenge put on by Fourwheeler magazine. The "Hummer Toss" as we call it now was a genuine mistake. He normally drives onto the ramp and when the Hummer starts teeter-tottering, he gets out and bounces it off the front tire. Only our ramp was a bit steeper and he misjudged the distance the front tire was off the ground. Shit happens I guess.   Eric Pena (Evalp) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 09:01 pm:    Shit happens I guess? WTF I have a nice DiscoII that i know does very good off road. I don't know many people on this BBS that gives a rats ass about ramping up. And Show&Shine Sorry Milan but that sounds like a buncha big sex machines waxed and ready for a show off. I don't know about the rest of you, but I like to off road!   Norm Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 10:34 pm:    Yawn. I'm not impressed. If they guy REALLY wanted to prove he had balls, he'd try this stunt in a $300,000 Ferrari or Rolls Royce -- better yet, he could drive one of those vehicles off a high cliff in front of a bunch of drunks. Now THAT would REALLY prove something. I know I'd be impressed, although I don't think I'd care to be a passenger. ---Norm   Yousef ReD90 Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:45 pm:    When he started to walk down the ramp I had a feeling that he will try to lift the back end and when he did I went NO NO NO you idiot there are some people in the Hummer, and instead of going to go check on who ever was in the truck he walked the other way a gave a guy a high five!!!!!!   Milan Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 11:56 pm:    "Shit happens I guess? WTF I have a nice DiscoII that i know does very good off road. I don't know many people on this BBS that gives a rats ass about ramping up. And Show&Shine Sorry Milan but that sounds like a buncha big sex machines waxed and ready for a show off. I don't know about the rest of you, but I like to off road! " Man you sound too hard-core for me. LOL. Show&Shine is one way for our club to make money. It's open to public, we fire up the BBQ, sell burgers raffle tickets, etc. Are you a member of any club? Know what it takes to run one? Or do you just off-road? Do you ever go for trail clean-ups? Off-roading for us involves more than just running trails. Ramp may not mean shit on the trail but it's fun and a great spectator event. Also, our club is actually an association (a brand name club), so "non-wheelers" are included and they happen to enjoy these events as much as we enjoy wheeling.   Eric Pena (Evalp) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 12:42 am:    Yes, I am a member of a local club in Denver and yes I do trail clean ups when I have time; I don't care to RUN a club! Glad to here you are so involved but as I said before, most people don't care much about ramping. I spend my $$ and time doing the real thing and breaking my rig on a trail and not in a paved parking lot!!   hendrik Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 01:53 am:    Shit happens .. True so far But I wonder if it´s a question of "shit happening" or "MAKING shit happen". H.   Milan Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:55 am:    "most people don't care much about ramping" Eric, I disagree. I see the ramps everywhere. In magazines as well as at most if not all major club PR events. I also see the guys that run "trails only" to pose flexing for pics. Seems to me people just like to see rigs all crossed up. Besides, ramps are good to check things out. To me it does not matter. I prefer trails to parking lots also and I don't care how much my rig ramps. I do want it to flex well for the trail but if bunch of people buy raffle tickets and what not just to see it on the ramp, so be it, I'll run up the ramp. I also do not RUN the club but I am one of the founding members and have seen how much work it is and putting on a Show&Shine is a good way to bring in some money and get some of the public introduced to 4x4's (even if it brings out the "sexy machines"). That's all. Anyway, seems like I'm ranting but it was really just the dissing of the guy and the event that cought my eye. Nothing personal. Over and out.   brian friend Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 10:27 am:    I liked it when the guy tried to "catch it" and keep it from going over. that link made my day. problem it now I can't see the screen through the tears in my eyes. And then I wonder if I would ever do anything like that? HHHmmmm. I'm sure that would impress my wife to no end. brian friend   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:35 am:    Well Milan , its funny as Hell . Instead of having the accurate reaction "Jesus H what kind of a dumb ass am I ??" He instead got his strut going and caught some High 5s ? Is there anyone on the planet that could actually think that flopping your truck in a parking lot for no reason at all is means for a victory dance ? Kyle   Ho Chung (Ho) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 11:39 am:    everybody now!!!   Douglas Jones (Ozaukeedoug) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 02:16 pm:    Holy Shit, I thought it was stupid when I didn't know there were people in it. That was just f-ing callous, how could you not check on the people inside? What a complete fuckhead.   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:16 pm:    That looks like an event to be avoided. Cerveza goes a long way toward mis-guided and dangerous behavior. Did he just finish a game of quarters before the ramp-over gig? Hot dogs, beer, metal-fleck paint and a big ramp - yee-haw! Oh, my club maintains the Rubicon, before you get any wise ideas, sport. e   Dee Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:34 pm:    Kyle, If you can afford to spend 100K on a toy laying it on it side should not be cause for alarm. In other words a fool and his money, Must be an ex Enron VP. PS I saw a trashed out beat to death 2001 Ferrari last week and it was a trade in by the PO, no respect   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:38 pm:    wow, I, too, didn't realize that there were passengers in that cute little hummer. and now I learn that this joker has a little routine where he drives up the ramp (with passengers), gets out while ramped (bad idea), and bounces his little hummy to the delight of the crowd (obviously a very bad idea). Now that I know all this, I'll have to downgrade him from "dumb fuck" to "liability". what a maroon.   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 03:38 pm:    Well , rolling shit happens. Rolling shit in a parking lot with passengers for absolutely no reason at all and then strutting around like you have just "Crossed the Rubicon" is hysterically funny.... Kyle   Rob Davison (Pokerob) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 04:11 pm:    cross the rubicon? i heard that trail wasn't so bad.. like a kia or something did it. anyopne here done it in a disco? rd   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 04:43 pm:    Hmm Well my statement wasnt about the trail,,,but ok,,,yeah , I think it was an ML...lol kyle   Mike Carino (Mikec) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 04:47 pm:    Obviously more MONEY than BRAINS. Causing him to think more of his ego then his family or friends in the vehicle!!! What an ass wipe ! No wait, he doesn't even rate as a poop stain!!   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 04:47 pm:    I drive the Rubicon every day on my way to work. ...okay, technically speaking, I drive past the Rubicon Mall in Dominguez - but it's almost the same thing. There are some very technical sections of the parking lot in front of Nordstrom Rack. Oh, and the spaces in front of Jamba Juice are very tight.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:16 pm:    the rubicon? now who would be crazy enough to take their stock disco on that? heheehehehe   Paul T. Schram (Paulschram) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:17 pm:    Hey ya'all watch this. Talk about a candidate for Darwin awards! I really, really hope he'd been drinking when he did this.   Brian Dickens (Bri) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:48 pm:    Watch what Paul?   Chris (C_M_Sharpe) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 05:50 pm:    Sad that after rolling the car, he walks away to do a high five w/his friend...how about checking on your passengers!!!! What a liability...   Peter Carey (Pcarey) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:05 pm:    I think you're all over-reacting about the passengers. Raise your hand if you think they were stone cold sober and didn't actually enjoy tumbling around in there? No one??? pwc   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:11 pm:    just hope they enjoyed it and the person on the passenger side didn't have their arm hangin out the window. I doubt the idiot driver made sure they had their seatbelts on. I'm not Mr. Safety but I'm also not Mr. Stupid like that hummy homo there...perched on 2 wheels on a frickin ramp and you get out of the driver's seat to play games. what a chumpified sucka.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:13 pm:    and Milan, nothin personal man, but you can't defend raw stupidity like that. You associate with shit, you're bound to get some on you...   muskyman Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:15 pm:    peter, i dont care how long you have been wheeling when a truck is rolling over people reach for the sky/ground and then get caught between the roll bar and the ground...its just natural reaction rolling even slow in a parking lot can have complications this guy is a knuckle head at best and damn lucky nobody was standing near by milan, sorry dude but this kinda shit is and always will be what gives all of us a bad name if it looks dangerous in the local show and shine grocery parking lot how do you think that makes people vote when they have a chance to decide if that old local 4 x 4 trail should be closed?   Milan Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:18 pm:    I guess I'll pitch in one more time. We don't sell alcohol at our events. They were all sober as not everyone that rolls is a drunk redneck. Not everyone that drinks, gets drunk either. I also never said that he always has passengers when he bounces his Hummer on the ramp. All I know is that a few times before he bounced it at other events. The passengers were clearly OK and there were many other people on hand to help. If he wants to strut that's his business. Most of us had opinions on the whole deal that were not too far off what I read here but liability? I guess next you wanna sue him, eh? I guess one should not even get into his 4x4 fearing the politically correct. Oh, and Erik, I'm full of wise ideas, sport.   Milan Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:19 pm:    Oh, Erik. Sorry, first I forgot a smiley and then I even realized that your sport remark was probably not aimed at me to begin with. Or was it?   Peter Carey (Pcarey) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:19 pm:    What's great is the commentary by the camera. Listen closely: person 1 - "He'll roll over" person 2, kid - "No it wouldnt" person 1 - "Flip right on its side and fall right over" I want that guy running my portfolio. pwc   Milan Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:29 pm:    Musky, Good call on that reaction to catch the rig. I think that's only natureal too and who knows, if You catch shit early, the 200lbs one weighs, may make a difference. Nobody was standing near by on the low side just because of the possibility of a rollover. The whole area was supervised. No matter what we do there may always be an idiot doing something dangerous and it may affect how we are all viewed in the public eye. I actually thought the whole incident was stupid but was trying to defend a point that even if one does something dumb, he may be an OK guy otherwise. He could have just screwed up. Don't we all do that sometimes? I was also trying to point out the validity of our event. And the roll actually made our S&S more known which from PR point we needed. And no, I'm not saying that PR for our club is everything or the only thing we're concerned about. I guess if a Disco had shown up and out-ramped everybody, this discussion would be quite different.   Peter Carey (Pcarey) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:37 pm:    musky, I guess my point is I have little to no empathy for someone who accepts a known risk and then gets hurt. Sure it stinks and I don't like to see people bleeding, but if this guy is known for this trick, I have to think the passengers knew what they were getting into and WANTED the ride, albeit not all the way over to the side. Milan, do you have a video of his trick actually working? that'd also be funny to see. pwc   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:37 pm:    Milan, I meant liability in the sense of "if you associate with people that do stupid shit like that, in a parking lot no less, you're takin on excess liability." Trust me, I'm not very PC, and I've only been on the receiving end of lawsuits. I'm also a ramp virgin, and will always be Sure, good people do stupid shit all the time, but it's just so beautiful captured there in living color for the world to laugh at and comment on. Viva la internet!   Milan Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:52 pm:    Peter, Sorry no other videos and yes the people riding as pssengers had some idea of what they were getting into. Blue, OK, I see what you mean. But like I said, we try to take all precautions we can to avoid big liability. However, running a ramp in itself can be dangerous even if you don't intend to do any "stunts" and so we have wavers and we guide and supervise beginners closely. This guy is a veteran 4-wheeler and we actually asked people to stand a bit farther away for this stunt. Hey, we figure we're all adults and if somebody wants to show off at our event and if somebody else wants to watch it, they take that responsibility for associated risks on themselves. There were kids there but under their parents care and we always warn the parents to take the kids a bit farther away from the machines than adults tend to stand. I also know that waivers and warnings don't always work and so I don't really care for either too much. Hopefully I have enough common sense and good judgement to protect myself and my loved ones.   Eric Pena (Evalp) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 06:54 pm:    OK, I guess I will pipe in one more time to. Milan, everytime you type a message you sound like a salesman for this Show&Shine thing. PR...Dosen't sound much like a club, more like a business to me. And, yes like Blue said, you associate with shit, your bound to get some on you. With all this said. THAT GUY IS STILL AN TOTAL FUCKING MORON, HANDS DOWN.   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:38 pm:    I don't use -type images - ever. I find that it makes it too easy to figure out what I really meant in my soapbox statements. You'll have to re-read my post a thousand (or at least two) times to dissect and disseminate the sarcastic from the serious. e   Erik Olson (Jon) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:39 pm:    Hey, this is kinda fun... e   Kyle Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 07:54 pm:    Milan , if a Disco showed on the ramp I would dog it twice as hard.. Kyle   Ramsay (3toedsloth) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 08:24 pm:    Arguing is fun isn't it? However, I seriously doubt those passengers were forced into the truck. I'm fairly certain they knew that trucks can flip, even Hummers. As for the 'strut'... Look at the motorcycle video that went around a few days ago. Every single one of those riders (except for the guy who looks dead) walks AWAY from their crotch rockets as soon as they bust. It's a natural reaction. It's embarrassing when you fuck up and it's human nature to initially walk away from failure. JR   Milan Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 08:32 pm:    Oh my god! We had a show&shine and a ramp. What fucking loosers we are. LOL Eric, I sound like a salesman for the S&S because I get defensive about our club and what we do (I like our club and its main membership). Maybe I should not. Maybe I should just be an Internet critic like most people. I don't know why I bother because as you said, if you associate with shit...the problem is I don't think our club or our events are shit, just some people that attend or talk/type about the event later. And usually they're not even our members. Anyway, I made PR sound important because our club was only about a year old then and we were trying to be more recognized. Erik, Luckily if I were to bother to re-read your statements, they're short enough to do so. Kyle, Hehehe. Anyway, enough typing from my keyboard. Laters.   Frode H�bertz Haaland (Discofrode) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:41 am:    Anyone know the RTI of a Hummer?   Norm Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 03:18 am:    Hey Milan, At your next Show & Shine event, I'd like to do a William Tell thing with the Hummer Stud (with a full beer can on his head) and a Benelli M-3 loaded with 00 buckshot -- I'll be operating the shotgun, of course. Lots of beer with laffs and high-fives galore!!! ---Norm PS: How many weeks or months is the average life expectancy for members of your club?   Frode H�bertz Haaland (Discofrode) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:47 am:    Just found it: A Hummer RTI is 385, as opposed to stock Jay type Disco at 667   Brian Dickens (Bri) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 11:53 am:    In my opinion the guy is not showing the experience of a "veteran 4-wheeler" but is showing the skills of a veteran jackass. If he is known for such a stupid, dangerous (people inside) stunts then if the SS event was a professionally run event, they would not allowed such an inappropriate stunt. Allowing such a stupid stunt is not a good introduction to the sport of 4-wheeling as Milan implies. Someone running this event should reconsider their strategy for qualifying ramp testers. Using this as a promotional item of any typeshows that the event/club promotes the idea of being an unsafe jackass. Anyone that ramps a vehicle with people inside and deliberately tips the vehicle is not worthy of the term veteran 4-wheeler. You will never see me at any of the putrid SS events and I will never recommend them as an introduction to offroading.   Chris (C_M_Sharpe) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 12:17 pm:    I don�t know if its because we are snobs or just not back ass stupid like these folks, but I, for one, am glad I am not part of the "hold my beer and watch this� crowd. Milan, your club is your club, and its commendable for you to show loyalty, but those ramp games are just stupid and no matter how you explain it, when a car rolls over, your passengers do have a chance of getting their arms pinned. That�s just inexcusably dangerous and for your group to promote such juvenile antics is...asinine.   Eric Pena (Evalp) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 01:43 pm:    Brian, Chris...That is what I'm saying. Milan, You seem like a great sales pitcher for your club but it seems to go to far. Ramping (as far as I am concerned) is stupid, but those who induldge need to be resposable. It's always dangerous dealing with vehicles doing extreem things, I just choose to do it off road and not in a paved parking lot. Regardless of who runs the club, who loves the club and who oversees the club, that guy was just being plain dumb. First he got to high on the ramp and the front right wheel was off the ground. Second there were passangers and third he got out and started lifting the thing. I don't know why but this all just makes me so angry. People can see that and it gives us a bad name. I'm sure most of us on this website are responsable enouph not to do something so God damn stupid.   Brian Dickens (Bri) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 02:58 pm:    I have no gripe against ramping. It is one method of having a metric to measure articulation, travel and tire/wheel fit. However I thought that the goal of ramping was to keep all wheels on the ground. Clearly this hummer dude did not do that.   brian friend Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:13 pm:    I still think it is funny as hell. brian friend   Bill Molnar (Circekat) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 04:42 pm:    I still think it is funny as well. And, my wife couldn't beleive it either. Thank God for watching out for Sailors and fools. Milan: Do you or have you ever thought of inviting your local Mountain rescue team/EMTs or Fire Department Vehicle Extraction teams to set up a display at any of your events? If not, you might want to invite them. It might be a good PR for your club. I am assuming that you are located in California by the dress and background that I could see. As a volunteer Firefighter, I am just so relieved that all the people involved were okay. But I still laugh as I watch that Hummer flop off the ramp. Bill M.   Milan Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 05:35 pm:    I was not going to comment anymore but since some people were refering to me, I'll go on for a little bit. Bill, We mostly work with Fish&Wildlife officers and no firefighters were invited. Thanks for the suggestion. The event is done in a small mall parking lot with the local merchant supporting and sponsoring the event. It is a S&S event and the ramp is there just because we have one. I'm in Alberta, Canada not Cali. Eric + Chris, Yes maybe it did go too far with the toss but I still believe that if people want to ride in a ramping vehicle as passengers it's a risk they're taking on their own. If anybody god hurt, you could not say they were innocent bystanders. I still don't see why this should "give us bad name" as opposed to some dumb-ass blazing a new trail. Maybe that's why we disagree. The reason I think the S&S is a good promotion is that you get the people that don't wheel out there asking about the trucks and the club. They don't come out into the woods if they have no idea about wheeling to begin with. I see the S&S as PR event and the ramp as a tool (man-made obstacle) to promote the product (4x4s). Kind of like the little track some LR dealers have, only the ramp is much easier to build. When not used in shows, it allows us to test suspension and clearences on the vehicles. Norm, This is Canada. Your Benelli is prohibited and there's no discharging of firearms allowed within city limits. You'll have to find some other redneck-type activity like ramping. ;)   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:06 pm:    Did somebody say Canada.......? Strange Brew comes to mind. Molson XXX and Special Dry 7.2% by volume.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:20 pm:    Strange Brew....classic   gp (Garrett) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:37 pm:    "I gotta take a leak so bad i can taste it!" "It's a jelly."   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 07:42 pm:    "Hey, take off Eh, that's my beer you hoser!"   Norm Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:04 pm:    Milan, Now just calm down and think of the possibilities -- since it's Canada, maybe we can't get the Lablatz Brewery to sponsor this event. It's not like we need a backstop to stop the buckshot from overpenetrating in an urban environment -- the Hummer Stud's large, thick skull ought to be adequate. Of course, it may be difficult to balance a can of Lablatz on the Hummer Stud's pin head. The Hummer Stud -- proof that gun control in Canada is an abject failure -- they obviously need to thin out the herd up there. ---Norm   niall forbes (Forbesn) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 08:51 pm:    Or stop importing American trucks ;-)   Milan Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 09:00 pm:    Norm, I'm as calm as can be. Maybe that's why I don't go as far as shooting people for plipping their own trucks. Now, if he flipped mine on the other hand... As far as the thinning goes, I think your country could use more of it. If you don't believe me, turn the TV on. Ooooh. I managed to turn one more topic off topic.   Norm Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:32 am:    I know, you (what do you call yourselves up there, the Canooks or something?) seem to all be on Prozac, watching US TV and drinking like fish all the time way up in the Frozen North. You Frosty Ones better watch it, or we'll send Wal Mart up there to buy your whole flippin' country!!! ---Norm   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:57 am:    I thought we already owned Cananda?? Kinda like Puerto Rico .   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 08:38 am:    Oh this is good stuff man.... Milan stated, "As far as the thinning goes, I think your country could use more of it. If you don't believe me, turn the TV on." Oh man, I can't stop laughing. Everytime I have been to canada, I have "socialized" with your women. That's right Milan, those Canadian Women love us Americans and our TV. LOL!   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 09:14 am:    when you say "TV" you mean..........uh.......nevermind!   Milan Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:15 am:    When I say TV I don't mean •••••• , I mean television. Puerto Rico and Wal Mart(?), eh? LOL You guys must be on something way better than Prozac and beer. Anyhoo, hosers, it's been fun. Signing off one more time...Milan   Norm Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 11:37 am:    Come on, Milan, come clean: How many times have you and your 4x4 club spent the winter snowed in with a truckload of Lablatz and a "Dukes of Hazard" marathon on the tube -- and loved every minute of it? ---Norm   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:08 pm:    A man walked into the produce section of his local supermarket and asked to buy half a head of lettuce. The boy working in that department told him that they only sold whole heads of lettuce. The man was so insistent that the boy went to ask his manager about the matter. Walking into the back room, the boy said to his manager, "Some asshole wants to buy half a head of lettuce!" As he finished his sentence, he turned to find the man standing right behind him, so he added, "And this gentleman kindly offered to buy the other half." The manager approved the deal and the man went on his way. Later, the manager found the boy and said, "I was impressed with the way you got yourself out of that situation earlier. We like people who think on their feet here. Where are you from, son?" "Canada, sir, " the boy replied. "Well, why did you leave Canada?" the manager asked. The boy said, "Sir, there's nothing but whores and hockey players up there." "Really?" said the manager, " my wife is from Canada!" The boy replied, "No shit??? Who did she play for?"   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:12 pm:    Norm, That is twice now, that you have made me laugh so hard at work that management checked on me! Good Shit Man, Paul '00 pig   Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 12:15 pm:    Hey Milan; Liked the video, got great laughs from all my Jeeper buddies on the coast! (B.C. that is) Don't let Norm, Paul and Garrett get away with too much! Over 800 registered members on the Discoweb board. Wanna bet about 10 - 12% are Canadian ehhh??   gp (Garrett) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 02:17 pm:    yeah but we usually lump them in with the Mexicans and PR's. least they don't type in all caps. "whores and hockey players" funny stuff.   Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:33 pm:    Garrett, always nice to be 'lumped in', very generous of you! I trust that you'd be as appreciative of a few derogatory remarks regarding your nationality?   brian friend Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 03:39 pm:    How did this get so controversial? You would think that we are all talking ab out adventure roof racks or something. very entertaining. brian friend   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 04:25 pm:    go ahead and rip on Garrett's ancestry. nothing is sacred here. Except for my people...we're Irish   Milan Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 05:34 pm:    Hey, you guys can't leave good enough alone, eh? Oh, so now it's "we" against "them", is it? WE USUALLY DON'T LUMP YOU WITH ANYBODY. YOU'RE ONE OF A KIND, THAT'S FOR SURE. (OOPS, CAPS, SORRY) And then there's the Irish. Chris, don't sweat it. Most of the jokes/pokes are in fun. And you have to admit Norm's D of H remark was funny.   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 05:47 pm:    Hmmm that reminds me of another great movie: Blazing Saddles "we'll take everyone, but the Irish"   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 05:48 pm:    Milan said "eh" wow, it's true....   Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:35 pm:    Milan - didn't assume it was anything other than fun!! The way I figure it, if we gotta take a few pokes on the chin, it just wouldn't be fair to our southern cousins if we didn't swing back....just a little! Dukes of Hazard was pretty funny, I agree! All except that I've spent a lot of time in Alberta in the winter and -30 C (Thats -22 F) in a snow storm, the streets in Calgary and Edmonton are still pretty busy with moms taking kids to hockey!!! Hell at -30, the Labatt Blue is just starting to get cold enough!!!   Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:45 pm:    Blue; Hope you inherited the Irish ability to drink. I've got a few Irish friends, heading out for a 'few beers' usually means a long night!   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 06:50 pm:    I don't consider it an ability. I consider it my duty.   Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:21 pm:    well said laddy, well said!   Paul D. Morgan (V22guy) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 07:55 pm:    "oh all right, The Irish can join us!"   Milan Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:39 am:    Chris, True. They may outnumber us but they'd freeze their asses off here. Hehehe Blue, you clumpet! I can drink any Irish under the table. Well I used to be able to. Not these days.   gp (Garrett) Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 01:00 pm:    yeah nothing is sacred. i mean we are all just busting on each other here all the time. all in jest dude. i am scottish/english. do whatever you can with that. i could care less. blazing saddles........yes indeed. a very PC movie. "the sheriff is near!!" haha. "doc that chink a days pay for napping on the job!" ps: i mean Blue is a lesbian, mexican/canadian, speach writer for Bill Clinton.....bash on him some.   Blue (Bluegill) Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 02:06 pm:    yes, and my greatest work was, "Let me repeat, I did not have sexual relations with that woman."   Chris Merritt (Smokinbro) Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 04:10 pm:    Milan; I actually froze my old Toyota in Calgary. Brought it out of the Hotel underground and...turned it off. 5 Minutes later - all the coolant froze. Took 3 hours in the garage to unfreeze. Good news was that the only thing I ruined was the heater. Bad news was that I still had to drive to Vancouver without heater at -30. had to keep scraping the inside of the windsheild to drive! By the time I got to Kamloops I was totally hypothermic. Took a big steak and a few beers to cure!   Milan Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:43 pm:    Yeah. I know hwat you mean exactly. I used to dirve a car (68 Ford Falcon) that had the heater working but very little actual heat. Those -30 days were quite adventurous. Looking at the road and traffic through a peephole and all dressed up inside with a tuke and gloves and still freeing. Brrrr! Gives me chills just thinking about it.   f0de Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 03:23 am:    if i had the money to spend on a hummer.. and the money to fix it if i broke it.. or dented up the side a little bit.. i'd flip that shit too.. lol thats awesome