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R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Friday, August 23, 2002 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

OK, and look cool while doing it - So, given the current status of out-of-control civil litigation in this country, it makes sense that Land Rover won't say outright what a safe traverse angle is on their cars anymore. Personally, while just fooling around, I have been up to 30 degrees on grassy knoll. I think I could probably go further. But how far? How far could a stock Disco I be turned on it's side before it will roll?? Anyone know? (What was the last image you had of your Lev-o-gauge before you blacked out?)

And no, the photo on my web site is not 30 degrees, I think that is only 24 or so...
http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
 

KJ
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Seems to me I've heard 37 degrees, unless I'm just remembering the little hill at the dealership.

Karen
 

Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I thought the D1's could go to 40 or 42 degrees. I've had my D2 to about 38 but didn't want to push it beyond that.

I've been trying to find out the same thing on the G-Wagens. MB states 53 percent side slope but that only works out to about 26 degrees. My guess is that it can actually do alot more.
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

That's right, I wonder what the slope is at the dealer in Portland. I should cook up some stupid way to ask without looking like I'm asking... maybe a test drive of a 2003 Disco is in order...
 

jay caragay (Jcaragay)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I distinctly remember seeing a video somewhere of some chaps who were involved in some sort of Rover contest and one of the events was a traverse angle thing.

Basically they had built this big dirt mound and mounted a telephone pole in the center. Secured to the pole was what looked to be mountaineering rope that was attached to the roof rack of a Discovery. As the Disco drove on the angle, if the angle became too steep the Disco would start to roll but would be secured from rolling over due to the rope.

This would be a serious undertaking just to test the angle, but it might be something for the dedicated enthusiast.
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

IMHO .. it depends on the terrain you are on and the conditions ... it's just that simple(?), lol

Kim :)
 

Kim S (Roverine)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Doh! I forgot ... in addition to terrain and conditons, it also depends on what kind of tires, suspension, driving technique, etc., you have ...

Kim :)

now, is that a confusing enough answer? LOL
 

Eric N (Grnrvr)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

If you lift your truck you have a better chance of rolling at less of an angle. I always thought stock was 40 degrees for a D1.
 

Axel Haakonsen (Axel)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

It also depends on what you have in the truck, if you have anything on the roof rack and so on, if the surface you are on is soft or hard, and how fast you are going. But the seat of your pants is a pretty good gauge, most of the time you will be in "Oh shit" mode long before you roll. But not always, so use common sense and be careful.
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ya ya ya ya But lets say the fuel tank is full and the truck is empty on stock suspension with stock tires etc... Nothing on the roof but the nearly useless stock roof rack. (Have any of you found a really good use for that roof rack by the way?)
 

Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/pismo/DCP_2220.jpg
 

Chris von Czoernig (Chrisvonc)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Jay,

You might be thinking of the TReK events. During the 99 & 00 events they had a section like that.
http://www.gotmud.org/trek/trek00_17.jpg
http://www.gotmud.org/trek/trek00_16.jpg
http://www.gotmud.org/trek/index.htm
 

Eric Pena (Evalp)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

43 degrees or so on a stock setup with good conditions is what I remember. I don't know if anyone knows for sure. After about 38 I'm feeling really uncomfortable.
 

Tripp Westbrook (Tripp)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

When I went through Land Rover University they quoted a stock D2 at 42 degrees.
 

Nathan Hindman (Nathanh)
Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've taken my Disco to 40+ degrees (with an empty roof rack), but conversely I've seen vehicles roll at 30 or less.

In addition to terrain, momentum can play a huge part in a roll over, whether it's from the suspension suddenly unloading or a wheel rapidly dropping down (or lifting up) and causing a weight shift.

Personally, I get a bit uneasy and start thinking of options when the truck gets over 30 degress.

Nathan Hindman
http://www.PangaeaExpeditions.com
 

R. B. Bailey (Rover50987)
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I think your right Nathan, that is why I am hesitant to go past 30. I know it could do more, but who REALLY knows what is under that tuft of grass, and how it will REALLY cause your truck to react?

30 seems like the truck is pretty comfortable and stable, and that means I have some margine of safety.

http://landrover.mrbaileyshistory.net
 

Ron
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I have seen the gauge peg at 45, I was scared. I also have seen alyssa reach out the window and be able to touch the ground and been ok with it. I layed the series down at about 35 degrees cause I was going too fast and hit a bump. All in the situation. There is a neat pic of a RR in one of my books at 55 degrees on a ramp, but I believe the previously quoted figure was in the range of 43-45 degrees.

Remember turn DOWN the hill and you will be ok.

Ron
 

Camille (Gwagenbabe)
Posted on Sunday, August 25, 2002 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

For a G, it has to be more than 26 degrees... I'm pretty sure I've had mine up more than that!

*Camille

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