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Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 09:48 pm: | 
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I just put a new battery (optima yellow) in my DI and now it won't start. All of the electrical systems are working (radio, lights, etc..) but it will not turn over. I already tried the alarm thinking it was the starter disable, but it arms and disarms fine. Any suggestions?
Chad |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:39 pm: |
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did you check for a blown fuse? Just a thought. |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 10:44 pm: |
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I am checking the fuses as we speak. I can't find any that are blown. |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 28, 2002 - 11:09 pm: |
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HEEEEEELP!!!! I checked all of the fuses, and they are fine. I have to be at work in 8 hours. Is there a trick to starting these things after changing batteries.
Chad |
Ross Thoma (Rossthoma)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:32 am: |
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Check the grounds to the starter and don't panic just think it through
RT |
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 08:14 am: |
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Did you also check the maxi-fuses under the hood in the power distribution block?
Does the solenoid click or do you get nothing?
What voltage is the battery putting out? If it is under 11, it will not spin the starter.
Bill |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 09:28 am: |
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The battery is putting out 12.3 volts. It clicks once when you turn the key, but it does not turn over. It acts like the starter disable is doing it's job, but the alarm disarms properly. I checked all of the fuses, both under the dash and under the hood. Is there any reset procedure for starter disable when you switch batteries?
Chad |
Bill Bettridge (Billb)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 09:35 am: |
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If your old battery was working - what happens if you put that back in? Will it start then?
I think if it was the alarm interlock, you would not even get a solenoid click because power is not allowed to the starter at all. (at least this is the case on mine)
Was the frame ground right beside the starter motor ok - not loose or corroded. I've seen those cables pull out of the crimped fitting before so it looks OK, but actually is not making a good contact.
Running short on ideas now - sorry.
Bill |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 09:49 am: |
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Well...the old battery was so caroded that the posts stapped off. As far as the grounds, I checked them all and they are OK. I called LR and they said that if it is much below 14 volts I will need to jump it first. I ordered the battery so it has sat on the shelf for a while. The voltage is 12ish, so hopefully that works.
Chad |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 11:46 am: |
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OK, I tried to jump start the truck and nothing happened. I have checked every ground, fuse, and voltage that I can. They all check fine. The battery is sitting at 13.7 volts. I would assume this is enough to start the truck. Does anyone have any suggestions? As I said before, the truck started fine with the old battery which was trashed so I am confident that it is not the starter.
Thanks |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:05 pm: |
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if your corrosion was that bad, double and triple check your connections to the battery. Last year I sourced a starting problem to plain old poor connection. Scour the insides of your cable's connectors down to virigin metal. |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:06 pm: |
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Have you checked the voltage at the starter?
pwc |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 12:19 pm: |
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I used all new connections and cut the corrosion off of the wires. The only place I have yet to check is at the starter. Where the hell is it and I will go check now!
Thanks |
Rans (Rans)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:08 pm: |
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I was on a road trip this summer and after getting gas in a station I tried to start the pig (DII) up and I got "the click". (Called LR roadside assistance, still under warranty, and they picked me up in 10 minutes and took me to the local LR st**ler only 10 min away.) They diagnosed that the starter was shot! |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 01:39 pm: |
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Chad,
It's right under the left (looking front to back) exhaust. Look right under it and you will see a heat sheild for the starter. From underneith, it will look like this picture (once again, with a heatsheild).
pwc |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:13 pm: |
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OK...so I check the voltage at the power wire for the starter while the ignition is being turned. If I have low voltage should I then check the ground? If the ground is solid do I then need a new starter?
Chad |
JB
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:30 pm: |
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oohhhmmmmm oohhhhmmmm
bubble bubble bubble
ohhmmmmmmm koff-koff-koff oohhmmm koff-koff-koff
calming down now...... now what were we talking about???? Oh yeah....
Try using a third battery to ID if it is your new yellow top or not - you still haven't ruled it out yet have you!!?? |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:32 pm: |
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Yes.
Check the lines all the way back from the starter if the ground is solid. If you have normal voltage going into the starter and the shit ain't movin'....well....
pwc |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 02:51 pm: |
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JB, it's not Friday yet.... |
JB
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 03:15 pm: |
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In doobidably.. but it's always friday somwhere ...(that was a joke P.C. Chad seems frazzled..)
Get the 3rd good battery buddy - you ain't ruled out a bunk yellow top yet have you ? Just cause it won't jump start doesn't remove yellow top itself from consideration...
Did you get mad and yank out the old battery forcibly..that would indicate a bad wire but how else could you have hurt a wire or ground in carefully removing the old one.. "does not compute"
Bad battery or alarm issue I say...
huh? were we talking about something.... who just said my name....where did I put that Snickers Crunchy bar...;) |
Blue (Bluegill)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 04:00 pm: |
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Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 04:29 pm: |
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Rans - I had the same problem this past summer with the starter on my DII. 40k miles seems too soon to replace a starter. Maybe it's a quiet recall like the radiators on 1999 and 2000 DII's that failed. The dealer told me there was no recall and as I walked around back to pick up my truck there were about 9 or 10 radiators next to the dumpster. |
Chad Meyer (Ccdm3)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 06:55 pm: |
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I fixed it!!! It was a bad starter wire. The thing was so caroded from the battery, about 3 inches in, that it couldn't carry the current. I put a new 2 guage wire from the battery to the starter and viola. Thanks to all that responded.
Chad |
Peter Carey (Pcarey)
| | Posted on Thursday, August 29, 2002 - 07:16 pm: |
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Good to hear.
pwc |
Rans (Rans)
| | Posted on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 07:30 am: |
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Al, Mine had about 38,500 on it when the starter went. We should keep an eye out for this issue!
Glad Chad got his issue resolved without the starter being to blame. |
Jason
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 03:53 pm: |
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Move the gear shift to neutral and then completely back to park. If it is not completely in park it will turn over but not start. |
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