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Francois fournier (Francois)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 09:14 pm: | 
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Has anyone completed such a task here.If so how difficult was it or easy.Are there any independent garages here in the U.S.A. that do such work such as Overfinch in the U.K.
Your help will be greatly appreciated.
This is great website.Wishing you all safe travels in your Land Rovers.
Francois |
Carl
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:35 pm: |
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Hi,
Know of someone who has done it.....a few problems but successful. Problems were:
need to slighly panel beat the firewall in one small section for clearance,
need the speed sensor from the GM donor or the CPU reprogramed, custom made brackets for air con/power steer, diff radiator. For those knockers of manual transmissions the box appears to survive even with 400 plus NM of torque at just off idle.
Of cause the adaptor for the same is a Australian invention.
Carl |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 10:51 pm: |
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Robert Davis over on the RN Series BBS (infamous for the 3L crossflow bolt-in Series engine) is working on setting up 4.3L V6 engines in coilers, which would be the same bolt pattern as the 5.7L V8.
Might want to hunt him down, see how it's going....
-L |
Maneesh Kumar (Dmk)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2002 - 11:47 pm: |
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I would really like to put a Vortec in the old Disco. I am sure many of you are familiar with the how good these motors are. |
Dee
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 12:11 am: |
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Good choice on the Vortec.... |
disco1
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 09:15 am: |
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With regards to the manual transmission, if it is a J 'prefix' box it won't last long matched to a 5.7 litre motor. A manual transmission with a K or L prefix might. The ZF auto is the better choice (How do I know? I've a 4.7 litre with a vortec and have had to replace the manual for an auto because the manual trans (J box)cannot handle the torque).You would be better served to fit a chevy gear box and while your at it make sure you get a 5.7 complete with wiring harness if you don't want too many hassles.
Roland K |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 09:33 am: |
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Vortec engines are good, but the injector is junk. Once it goes, expect an expensive repair. I'd still be driving one if it weren't for the failure of the Central Port Injector. Also, the EGR valves are frightfully expensive.
As much as I hate to say it, I think the throttle body injection is more reliable and far cheaper to repair once it dies.
To a great extent, I have to question all of these folks who want to junk the Rover engines. Yes, they don't put out a bunch of horsepower, but other than those which have been beaten, when is the last time you heard of a catastrophic failure that was not the result of missed scheduled service?
Paul |
Dee
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 03:21 pm: |
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Well Paul mine was taken well care of every oil change every 3k with quality oils all mechanical working no hoses leaking even the radio works so the lack of service theory wont fly with me... I repairing a shit load of problems with the top end, A badly bent valve, burnt rocker arm damaged piston. This all on a 67K motor. I trust the Disco about as much as a did the Rangie I that I would under no circumstances go it alone off road....
I use the same oils greases and all exceed the recommendations from LR. My Benz it has 190k and the other one just turned 200 all on the original heads and motor so for me the Rover V8 leaves a lot to be desired. IMO a very poor choice of power plant for the US market.. Lets not talk about how worthless the AC is in 100 deg temps
As far as the injection on a Vortec, id dump it and go with the Edelbroc TBI setup. If I ever move out of California I might upgrade the motor but CARB has us by the balls.... |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:35 pm: |
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Sorry to hear about your truck Dee, mine has 151K on it and the only problems I have had are the small ones-until the PS pump went on me! I can't imagine my truck having any catastrophic engine problems. Electronic maybe, but catastrophic mechanicals, no!
As for CARB, man am I glad I live in Indiana.
Paul |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 04:35 pm: |
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Dee, your neighbors off your back yet?
Paul |
Dee
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 05:39 pm: |
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Well if one more major problem occurs in the next 40K its BBQ time.. It just flames me that I owe 19k on it and its worth 15k and now I have to devote time and upgrade money to make some BS repairs.... Well so much for a winch this quarter. Dear Santa bring me Mile Marker....
Cool thing about the neighbors the Adams Family next door moved out and there is a group of 4 guys who now rent the house. All of them seem to some hot looking girls around all the time, asshloes... No there really cool they also adopted my son gave him a shitload of PS1 games, So I guess life in the Burbs is ok for now. California still sucks really bad I think I'm going to add the hammer and sickle to the state flag. Shit there probably is a fine for doing that...
Get the new digs up? |
Max
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 08:03 pm: |
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I love Rovers more than any other make!
Sorry to say the engine is crap or I should say It has a lot of built in potential to be crap. I know you all have millions of miles on your trucks and good for you! Before you bash back too much just check the facts they are well documented. When I do need a new engine I probably will end up going LR mainly due to cost in conversions(in most cases) out way the potential cost of rover repairs.
Max
P.S. Check out marks adaptors out of Australia for conversion info and parts. |
p m
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 08:45 pm: |
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Dee, ROTFLMAO on hammer and sickle, put'em right over the bear's head!
Ditto on the A/C - with my car being white, it took the A/C to the max on the stretch between Phoenix and San Diego. The rear doors have gap good enough for a sharpie to fall through, and it blew hot air right up to the rear passengers' butts (just like it does cold air when we go skiing to mammoth).
However, LR's V8 is a good old Buick engine. I never realized how good they were until I bought that 68 with a Buick 350 - with a dinky 2-barrel carb, it just screams off the line!
peter |
Chris (C_M_Sharpe)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 10:27 pm: |
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Dee,
California rocks, you just have to live in the right area, dont read the opinion sections of the local papers and ignore anything that comes out of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. Oh, I think the hammer and sickle is on their next meetings agenda...
There are a couple more do's and donts, but this is a start.  |
Milan
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:09 pm: |
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Dee,
I agree with everything you posted. Even the hammer & sicle comment (I obviously was not in the right neigborhood).
The POS electricals and engine have stopped my mods dead in the tracks. So much so that I'm even leare of putting the stuff I bought on this D1. Maybe I should save them for some other D1. Too bad I also owe money on it and too bad the resale value went down the toilet early this year. That and my lack of time is why I'm so slow with putting the rims and tires on as well. I even considered putting that darn Cheby engine in instead but luckily I was lacking the funds to do so. I was gonna go Edlebrock carb or Cheby TBI. |
Milan
| | Posted on Thursday, September 05, 2002 - 11:12 pm: |
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Man I have to spell-check my stuff. Leare was meant to read leary. |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Friday, September 06, 2002 - 10:00 am: |
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Dee:
I'm being jerked around by a development company that wants to buy my real estate for enough to retire on, but, they want forever to dick around and "Inspect". Every time I get ready to do something, they send another offer and then, I'm tied up for a few months for them to decide they need to counter my counter offer with the exact same offer they gave in the first place.
At this point, I'm still working in the driveway. Imagine my embarrassment when a fella with a Defender dropped by to leave his truck and asked to see the garage! I still have the roof shored up with 2X4s and little else inside. I did get his truck going for him, but I am still embarrassed and have folks dropping vehicles off almost every day. I have a Plymouth mini van and an older Toyota in, both for new engines. How can I turn away work like that?
We will try again to start building the week after next, in spite of the future opportunities, I must have a building.
Glad your neighbors have improved, mine (those that complain) live almost a quarter mile from my house, but still think they have a right to complain about little chicken shit stuff and the city investigates and cites me and I have to pay to fight the citations! I can't wait to sell and move to Ruby Ridge, I hear the 'wheeling is great up there.
Peace,
Paul |
Norm
| | Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 01:11 am: |
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The main problem I see with the Rover 3.9/4.0 V8s is that they are barely adequate powerwise for every day city/highway driving to haul that much weight with full time 4WD -- especially if you drive hard -- with an aluminum block so prone to overheating/destruction in hot weather with dual a/c, etc. The 4.6, while not a hot rod, has plenty of power and is much better suited to a Disco. In fact my 4.6 has as good or better gas mileage than my old 3.9 -- and I drive it pretty hard.
I suppose you know what you're in for if you really want to adapt a GM motor to a Disco. So if you're already going to that much trouble, why not go the extra mile and put in a heavy duty GM/Dodge NV4500 transmission? These are supposed to be really tough and would assume they easily fit the motor.
If you want to stick with an R380, you might get a rebuilt one from Ashcroft, which are apparently an improvement over the original as far as durability (I haven't had any trouble with mine for 20K miles behind the 4.6). I think the factory "L" R380 has shot peened gears and was originally for the Tdi motor so it's a different length and bell housing than the V8 R380s.
If my Ashcroft unit ever dies, I'm toying with the idea of putting in a NV4500, but can't find an adapter -- not even from Marks 4WD.
---Norm |
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