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Chris C.
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 06:46 pm: | 
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Has anyone had experience lifting a disco with a hi lift jack by it's steel rims? I've got an 02 with an ARB / winch on the front but due to the air bags I don't really have any suitable place on the rover to lift it with a jack. I saw a technique using the hi lift bumper adapter (chain and hook) on steel rims. If this is a suitable / safe method of lifting the truck I may ditch the alloy rims and get some steel ones. Any thoughts? |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:11 pm: |
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I guess it MIGHT work for getting yourself unstuck but it won't really help you if you need to change a tire. |
Chris C
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:22 pm: |
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Changing the tire didn't even occur to me. I was refering to a recovery situation. Also has anyone found any good sights on the use of pickets for winching? |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:34 pm: |
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yeah they are nice to have for changing a tire while offroad (especially if you are running larger tires which might prevent the stock jack from working if you are over a low spot in the ground). What are 'Pickets' by the way?? |
muskyman
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 08:39 pm: |
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I have been using high-lifts for 25 years plus and I would say dont even think about it.
much to the surprise of new users,High-lifts are terribly unstable in all but the most level of lifts.
and when they tip the top of them can rip the body of your truck open like a can opener.
well constructed bumpers and sliders that stick out enough are the best place to put them.
as you raise a stuck vehicle on the trail it almost always wants to roll alittle one way or the other.then what?
as handy as they are they are almost always my last resort tool |
Cartner
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 09:19 pm: |
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Yeah, I'll second that, lift under the bumper if you do it, or be on REALLY flat ground. Its very disturbing to see your truck start swaying when one end is a few feet off the ground and your digging under a tyre... |
Chris C
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:00 pm: |
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A picket is a large stake that is placed in the ground to provide an anchor. Often times three pickets will be lined up and tied to eachother to create a system strong enough to hold while a vehicle wiches itself out (deep soft sand would be the example her). I'm just wondering if snow pickets would work for this application. Snow pickets are designed for ice climbing, they are light weight "t" shaped, have holes in them and are 48" long. They seem a lot more portable than a pull pall. |
Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 10:11 pm: |
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Hi-Lifts scare me to death, and would only really consider using one in 1) an emergency or 2) a "hi-lift winch" situation.
We had a situation on our Cow Mountain trip where we tried to lift a Disco2 with steelies with a hi-lift, but nixed that idea very quickly because we found that the wheel is NOT secure enough to keep the hi-lift centered. The wheel started to move when we tried to lift the jack, which told us immediately that it would not work.
Sliders or a bumper are the only appropriate places for hi-lifts to be used, and only then with lots of good judgement and scenario evaluation. Solid, flat ground is paramount when deciding to use a hi-lift. |
Jim Murphy (Murph)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 - 11:45 pm: |
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Quote:Solid, flat ground is paramount when deciding to use a hi-lift.
Or a bottle jack for that matter. :-)
murph
'99 DSII |
Carter Simcoe (Carter)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 01:13 am: |
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you arn't kidding Murph I have a large plywood base with bolts in it that slips on the highlift base when I need it and that set up feels a heck of alot more solid when offroad than that bottle jack. I should probablly make a plywood base for the bottle jack also but im sure I will put it off untill the highlift fails and really screws something up  |
Ali
| | Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 08:02 am: |
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I've used three concrete anchors for my winch when no other recovery anchors were available. Unfortunately, I needed a larger sledgehammer to pound the anchors deep enough in an angle. Worked well enough but a lot of pounding. If that failed then I was going to bury my spare tire for an anchor but it didn't come to that! |
Craig Kobayashi (Koby)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 12, 2002 - 11:11 am: |
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By the way, the pics of the Disco2 with the steelies is up at the Cow Mountain pics.
A good example of what happens when there isn't a plywood base on a bottle jack. |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Friday, September 13, 2002 - 11:03 pm: |
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Another base for the hi-lift is a jackmate. I don't see that mentioned very often as a base but if you replace the base on the hi-lift with the jackmate you can use it to dig into the ground or get a better footing on a fallen tree. Not to mention it's useful for a number of other things too. |
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