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Jorge
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 12:33 pm: | 
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Guys,
I know this is a very common topic, but I am trying to find out if my Disco II (1999) has CDL! how can I confirm it?
Thanks! |
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 01:55 pm: |
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Because of the year of manufacture, your transfer case is equipped with the CDL stud. Now you just have to decide on the way you want to engage it. If you don't mind a third knob on your console, look in the tech section for my CDL linkage instructions. Very easy to do and cost is less than $40. Plus, it's mechanical so you don't have to worry about it failing, unless you can twist a 3/8" drive extension in half! |
Michael Noe (Noee)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 07:13 pm: |
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Jorge:
If you don't have the fab capability for Greg's deal, which is very simple and elegant, check out Skerrit's kit on disco2.com. |
Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 07:33 pm: |
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Jorge,
I just finished putting in the solenoid CDL kit from GBR. It's more expense than other solutions, but there's no mechanical linkage coming up into the vehicle. This supposedly cuts down on noise.
Kyle |
Rick Lindgren (Slacker)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:02 pm: |
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Jorge,
I guess that I will chime in with the final option. I just installed a T-case shifter from a DI and it activates the CDL just fine. There are comprehensive directions for installing one on expeditionexchange.com but the DI linkage can be hard to find at times. Cost between $100 - $150 and some installation time one weekend.
Rick |
Dave_Lucas (Dave_Lucas)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:10 pm: |
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"but the DI linkage can be hard to find at times. Cost between $100 - $150"
I have one sitting here for sale if anyone is intrested. For pics look in the for sale section about 1/4 of the way down called "Complete DI CDL"
I even have an extra high/low arm so if you mess up when bending it you will have a backup |
Brian (Rover_Wannabe)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 08:24 pm: |
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What years came with a CDL? Do the earlier models (1994-1997 series 1) have a CDL? If so does one need to add a linkage, or is it already "plumbed in"? |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 10:38 pm: |
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Brian,
All earlier Discos, ie, '94 through '99, have a CDL, already in place, functioning (unless, of course, a soccer mom never used it, in which case it might be stiff). Disco II Rovers, '99 through now, don't have a CDL installed. On '99 and some '00, you can retrofit the linkage to add CDL capabilities. On '01 and '02 models, you would need to swap the transfer case, or, at least the end, according to Ron.
-L |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 17, 2002 - 11:27 pm: |
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Correction... 1999-mid 2001 D2's are CDL capable. After mid 2001 until end of 2002 D2's are castrated and will need a new t-case. I still haven't seen a 2003 (NAS edition) to check to see if it's capable or not. Rest of world versions seem to have it since you can get one from the dealer with the CDL in solenoid form. |
Michael Noe (Noee)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 06:52 am: |
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Jorge
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 11:25 am: |
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Kyle,
I have not seen the solenoid CDL kit...what does GBR stands for so I can check it out. is it possible that you might have more problems because it is not mechanically operated? again, I am not familiar with it! is it easy to install?
thanks for the info guys!
on an unrelated item..I run my Disco II on unleaded gas. should I use premium? does it matter?
Jorge |
Dave_Lucas (Dave_Lucas)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:36 pm: |
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GBR = Great Basin Rovers
www.greatbasinrovers.com
I do not think he has it listed on his site so you may need to call him. |
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 12:56 pm: |
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Premium fuel is recommended by the dealer and in the owner's manual. |
Rans (Rans)
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:05 pm: |
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Jorge
There are probably more messages on the web about the use of premium vs lesser grades as to the possible effect of "knock" (aka detonation) when there is insufficient octane in the gasoline. You can't always hear "knock" so it might be occuring without your knowledge. It's not worth the potential damage to run regular, but you MIGHT get away with some higher octane mid-range gasolines. Just note that manufacturers recommend it for a reason, not like they get a kickback from the gas companies or anything!
Best bet is to do some research on this site and others and read up on it. |
Jorge
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 18, 2002 - 03:32 pm: |
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Well, I am confused because the dealer told me that unleaded gasoline would be fine! perhaps they were setting me up for future problems ah!! really, I was confused because in the gas tap it has a message that says "use premium unleaded" and I am not very knowledgable in the differences! but it looks like I will start using premium from now on!
Thanks,
Jorge |
Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:42 am: |
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Jorge,
It took me the better part of a day for my brother and me to put it in. I installed it from the underside of the vehicle instead of removing the console. It's kind of a tight working space underneath, so it slows the install down.
The solenoid is supposedly very reliable, but only time will tell.
Kyle |
Al Oliveira (Offroaddisco)
| | Posted on Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 11:57 pm: |
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The solenoid is supposedly very reliable, but only time will tell."
Not to bash on the solenoid but I think if reliability is a big issue it's hard to beat a metal link. Electronics can and do fail. I work with over 20,000 host computers a day and even when in a humidity and temperature controlled environment we often have, electronic hardware, failures but I have yet to see a simple metal structure such as a chassis fail even 5% as often. Now if you want less noise transferred into the cabin the solenoid may have an edge there.
As for the octane question check out...
http://theserviceadvisor.com/octane.htm
and...
http://chemistry.about.com/library/weekly/aa070401a.htm |
Kyle Beckman (Kbeckman)
| | Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 10:34 am: |
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Al,
I've heard the solenoid is very reliable. It's been used in Australia for some time with good result. I only say "time will tell" because if anything can fail, it usually does on me. My luck is that way. I hate to claim something is reliable when I've only had in the truck a week!
Kyle |
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