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Gary Judd
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 12:13 am: | 
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i'm going to get a hand winch and i need to know whats the best one on the market and where can i find it
price is a factor here
if it wasn't i'd buy an electric one
i'd appreciate the help |
todd
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 12:22 am: |
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why not just buy a high lift and some chain. then you can use it as a jack and winch. Best of both worlds. Bill Burk has a excellent write up about this at http://www.d-90.com/tech/index.html.
Todd |
Dudley Harris
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 12:57 am: |
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I made a kit up using a Hi-Lift Jack and chain. It works really well and it's cheap.
You only need a short length of chain, chain snigs, shakels and a non stretch strop to give a bit of distance. |
John Lee
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 01:32 am: |
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I would recommend the Hi-Lift Jack. True, the Hi-Lift is only $70 by itself, but you'll also need chains, shackles, and other appurtenances to use the Hi-Lift as a hand winch so the total cost will be considerably more than $70. Still, you need these items anyway if you venture offroad, even if you have a winch on your truck. |
Nadim
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 01:48 am: |
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I second that approach. I have winched with the Hi-Lift several times and it hasn't missed a beat. It is easier with the Jack Mate, since you can adjust the chain very easily... |
PerroneFord
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 02:09 am: |
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I'll vote for the HiLift as well. I keep a bow shackle on the top hole and some chain and towstraps in the back. When venturing off-road I carry a winch anchor of some kind.
You need the hilift anyway, and you need the chain and straps anyway, so its a relative bargain. And winches do fail occasionally, and this low tech solution might prove a worth backup.
-P |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 07:39 am: |
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Black rat 3500 lb hand winch doubled over will give you about 50 feet of pull before you need to re-adjust. Its huge cable gives a sense of stability and confidence, and you can winch out of a long mud hole quite quickly and easily.
But its about $300 + shackles
dean |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 07:42 am: |
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Here you are:
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alhang
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 09:12 am: |
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http://www.wyeth-scott.com/
the more power puller, about 120 plus some extra cable or chain,some shackles and straps. a complete kit should be in the low 200's. think of it as a come-along on roids. |
JB
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 12:34 pm: |
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Tirfoir also make a model like the black rat, I pulled a disco 2 owned by one Adam White ( where are you Adam??) out of a huge hole and it was pretty durn easy using the tirfoir, it pulls on both strokes ( back and forth for you ladies not used to stroking) and the cable is THICK. no solenoids or other stuff incase you are not as tech minded as others - and you don't need a super bumper just some Jate rings on the front frame or a bumper ring on the back. Highlifts suck for more than 1 or 3 feet of winching |
Bruce
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 11:13 pm: |
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Very good point on the distance factor using a highlift. I am in the middle of considering an alternative to e-winch. I would appreciate any other experiences others have had using these $250-350 range hand winches versus a highlift jack? |
ravensjk
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 11:40 pm: |
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Where can you buy the Black Rat and has anyone here actually used it?
Jason |
Dean Brown (Deanbrown3d)
| | Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 09:09 am: |
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I have used it a couple of times to get myself unstuck. You gotta imagine - its a 7/16 steel cable, and there are safety stress-braking bars inside the handle that will break before anything else. The cable is engineered to be grabbed on the outside rather than wound over a drum like on a normal winch - hence its relatively thick size compared to an electric winch. In other words, you ain't gotta worry about the cable breaking
Even when I get an electric (or PTO) winch I will always keep the black rat in the back - it will always work no matter what happens to the other one up front.
There are times when a 3 foot pull using a high lift jack will not be too useful - imagine having to secure a rover half way out of a mud hole and resetting the jack?
JMHO
Dean
Ps Axel may have a shot of it in use from the last trip to the barrens |
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