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Lawrence P. Muscente (Nytefog)
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:57 pm: | 
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Is there a differnece in the suspension setup between the D1 and D2? |
haha
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:02 pm: |
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D1 had a 3link setup in the front. with long travel remote resevoir OME shocks |
cartner
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:08 pm: |
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OME? Then why did I pay for a NEW set of Old Man Emu's on my D1...I don't think those were OME, maybe you meant OEM....otherwise, you got a deal |
Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:11 pm: |
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yeah oem he meant
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ahah
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:15 pm: |
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Old Man Emu |
Milan
| | Posted on Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:41 pm: |
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Maybe haha or ahah is just having a few hahas at your expense.
D1 uses radius arms and bushings. D2's setup is more akin to control arms with regular bushings. |
Cameron
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 08:58 am: |
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Which is better? |
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 09:30 am: |
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The main difference in the DI vs DII suspension is in the rear. The DI uses lower radius arms with an upper A-arm, whereas the DII uses rear radius arms with a Watts link.
Up front, they both use radius arms. On the DI, the frame bushings for the radius arms are stud mount, whereas on the DII, they are through bolts. Also, the DII radius arms are longer than on the DI.
Front DI shocks use stud mounts, whereas the DII upper shock mount is eyelet and lower is cross-bolt. DII front spring perch is 1" lower than DI, so a DI front spring will net a 1" lift if mounted on a DII. |
Milan
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 10:12 am: |
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Greg, only "stud mount" bushings could be called "radius" bushings as the term refers to their ability to twist or turn around (in the direction of) the radius. The DII "through-bolt" bushings are the same on the front and the rear arms, so I would not call them radius bushings.
Longer arms assure less movement needed from the frame mount bushing, more comfortable ride with taller suspension and enough droop.
I'm also not aware of any Watts link on the D2 but I'd have to crawl under there to look. |
Greg Davis (Gregdavis)
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 10:41 am: |
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Milan, not sure what you were getting at, but any bushing mounted on the radius arm becomes a radius arm bushing. The term radius is referring to the suspension arm, not the mount.
The busings on the ends (frame mount) of the DI arms are the same design as the bushings on the ends of the front shocks, but they're not "radius" bushings on the shock, they're stud mount. They mount on a "stud".
My point was to explain the differences in the mountings and their bushings so Lawrence would realize that although they are similar vehicles, there are many small differences in the suspension designs. |
Milan
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 02:10 pm: |
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OK Greg, but I disagree. I called it a radius bushing (aka stud mount bushing). The bushing on a stud-mount end of a shock is also a radius bushing.
Radius arm is a control arm mounted so it can twist radially, so effectively only "stud-mount" arms are radius arms. They are atype of control arm/link and in the rear they could be called trailing links.
I don't really give a hoot what they're called but I typically see control arms called radius arms when in fact they are not. I think with DII that's the case a lot.
What about that Watts linkage? Does a DII really have one? I know that's what the promotional brochures call it but what does it look like? |
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