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Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I am have a problem installing my Master-Pull rope that I do not know how to solve. As you can see from the picture, the Rope is braided around a metal eyelet with a hole in it. The steel cable on the RE12K is set into an opening, with an allen set screw used to secure the cable to the drum. The hole in the eyelet on the rope is a smaller diameter than the threaded hole on the drum.

How do I attach the rope to the drum? The width of the metal eyelet is to wide to fit into hole which holds the cable.

Not too mechanically inclined here; would appreciate any sharing how they solved this problem. Thanks.

Michael

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Rob Davison (Pokerob)
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

redrill the hole so that the allen threads into the metal beneath what looks to be a chain link. my guess is the reason for that link on top of that plate is so that the rope isnt laying ontop of a sharp bolt head.

it's not doing anything but keeping the rope from sliding around when you first start to wrap it.

rd
 

Milan
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Take out the allen screw, replace with round head, drill out the hole in the loop to be able to put the bolt through and attach at the top of the drum I.e. do not use the hole through which the steel cable goes through. Keep in mind the synthetic rope is way more slippery and you will need to have a full layer of rope one before you can put some serious load on it. If it still slips, I'd suggest using a clove hitch to tie the rope to the drum before you start spooling it.
 

Mike Little
Posted on Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Mike, here is what I did.
Wrap some duct tape around the rope near the eyelet and then cut it off cleanly through the duct tape.
This should allow you to insert the new line through the hole in the drum and tighten the set screw.
As Milan has previously stated you will need to leave most of the first wrap on the drum when you use the winch but it will hold fine.
You will also find that the new line will not spool on as well and it will flatten out under load, some crossing is okay with this line but you should still try and avoid it.
Regards,

Mike
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I did the same as Mike Little on my RE12K and after some swearing, did manage to get the 3/8" Masterpull through the hole without enlarging it any.

Bill
 

Milan
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I don't know if I'd trust the allen set screw only to hold the plasma rope on the drum. The rope is really slippery and it's asy to make a mistake and unravel just a bit more rope than intended and then the slip might tear the tip from the drum and let go. Not really arguing your method guys as it obviously must work for you. I'm just warning new users to be extremely carefull when setting up the new rope and then using it. Know the rope's limitations.
 

Milan
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Actually, come to think of it, I'd like to add to my original suggestion. Looking at the pic again, it looks as if the rope's end can be pulled right through the hole. Then I would do that and use a hitch or a loop to make sure the end is firmly attached around the drum.
 

James F. Thompson Jaime (Blueboy)
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Consider using a bowline knot as no matter how much pressure has been placed on it, you can always undo it.

http://www.tollesburysc.co.uk/Knots/Bowline.htm

Jaime
 

Bill Bettridge (Billb)
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

I've got a clove hitch after it comes through the drum - the set screw does nothing except hold the end down. In addition, I'd never let it get below half the drum width on the last wrap anyway.

Bill
 

Milan
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Yeah. Bill, that's exactly what I'd do. Sounds like the best solution.

James, bowline is too bulky a knot for the drum. Clove hitch is best IMO.
 

Michael Villanueva (Michael)
Posted on Monday, September 30, 2002 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post

Ok, thanks all for your time and input. I will implement the Mike & Bill Slice, Swear & Thread plan this weekend. I'll even take a picture of my success.

It never even once occurred to me to cut the fricking rope. Arrrgggghhh!!! Talk about not being able to think my way out of a paper sack!

Thanks again.

Michael

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