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M. Recke (Disco_Obsession)
| | Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 06:45 am: | 
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I read on Discoweb that some of you guys have done suspension lifts and body lifts.
Being a novice, I ask this question. On a body only lift, which I presume, but I could be incorrect, involves placing spacers between the chassis and the body creating a lift. My question is, if you lift the body, does it shorten the gear lever and the already short high/low range lever. I presume that the engine and gearbox is attached via mounts that are attached to the chassis and remain at there previous hight. Or does one need to lengthen the levers as well.
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Eric N (Grnrvr)
| | Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 08:12 am: |
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Yes, you will need to lengthen the transfer case lever. The transmission shifter is on a cable so you don't need to worry about that. However, you are also going to have to do some thing about your steering linkage as 1 3/4 inch body lift will put it pretty close to the end of it's threads so you will need some thing to lengthen it or weld the thing on.. |
\Mike... (Mpeters)
| | Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 09:41 am: |
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actually, you can add up to 2" of lift under body mounts on both a NAS Disco and classic range rover without really having to change anything.
true: transfer case lever will be very low, but will function (you will almost certainly want to extend this with a 2" lift, maybe/maybe-not with a 1-1.5" lift). The steering linkage extends sufficiently with no mods to compensate for up to 2" of body lift. i believe rovertym includes an extension in part of their consumer kit, most likely to cover possible liability issues, as you begin to get close in the steering linkage as you lift 2" or more.
Nothing wrong with extending the transfer case lever, or most certainly the steering linkage, but don't assume you HAVE to do this with just any amount of body lift until you exceed 2". |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 02:21 pm: |
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How many here have actually done body lifts, though?
Given how simple it is just to swap in new springs for a quick 2" of lift, why go through the hassle of a body lift instead of the spring swap?
I agree, if you've got the suspension lift and need still more clearance, the body lift might be reasonable, but I don't see a good reason to do a body-only lift instead of a spring swap.
IMHO, FWIW....
-L |
muskyman
| | Posted on Monday, October 07, 2002 - 11:36 pm: |
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-L
I have never done a disco or rangerover body lift but I have done dozens of them on other trucks over the years and have mixed feelings on them.
when just bolting in some of the early examples made from aluminum or plastic blocks and having to fab most of the other mounts such as rad,fans,shrods,brakelines...ect ect they really were just a pain in the ass.
but I have also done hockey puck 1" body lifts on a number of trucks and just got a true 1" body lift for $20 bucks and never a problem.
I have recently done a complete TJ body kit that was down right perfect in every way. so well thought out that it seamed like OEM parts we were bolting on.
body lift is a great way to get bigger tires without the big change in drivline. and because as you move from stock to more and more angulation in your drivline you also weaken it making u-joints wear faster and vibes more common.
the disco body is pretty snug to the frame putting a 1" body lift wouldent be a bad way to go but I'd make sure to really do it right by going to all the points not just the majors as many jeep kits do. those supports back under the back floor are pretty well done and dont use a simple bolt and washer style mount so you would need to figure out how to extend those as well.I dont know if the rovertyme kit does that or not?
all in all if you just have to have a disco on 35" tires body lift in conjuntion with say a 3" spring lift sure would make more sence then all the hacking you'd need to do with 100% suspension lift. let alone the fact that the center of gravity on the all suspension lift would be mildly worse. |
Blake Luse (Muddyrover)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 12:00 am: |
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i put one under mine
pics soon. |
M. Recke (Disco_Obsession)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 06:28 am: |
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Thanks for all the info guys! You include some good points. All your reasoning suggests a spring/suspension lift would be a better solution to just a body lift. |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 07:54 am: |
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I have a body lift on my CJ7 and did one for a friend (1988 RR 4.6). Used the RTE kit for the Rangie. The only problem was that he recently broke his transmission cooler lines while offroading and I think it was related to his body lift (check out the thread under RR "Do I really need this part?") I wasn't there but I have a feeling it was due to the body lift. Something to look into.... |
Leslie N. Bright (Leslie)
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 08, 2002 - 08:36 am: |
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Musky,
Good points. I was specifically meaning a Disco body lift, but, your comments are still very valid to the topic.
For just the 2", I think the spring swap is the route to go. If you're wanting to get more lift that that, then yes, I would start to consider adding the body lift in place of just taller springs, but, as you said, there are good and bad points to each.
IMHO, FWIW....
-L |
M. Recke (Disco_Obsession)
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 06:33 am: |
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Guys, when I do a spring/suspension lift, do I then need to modify brake line length and the like to compensate the lift? |
John Cinquegrana (Johnc)
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 07:44 am: |
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Depends on the lift. I have a 3" lift but with stock Bilstein shocks (short) and I did not have to extend my brake lines. If you go with a longer shock you will need longer brake lines (specially in front). |
Paul T. Schram (Paulschram)
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:16 pm: |
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Given the difficulties that most of us have had (and some of us have had recur again and again) with vibrations, the body lift has great attraction.
Gotta go, still trying to find out why I have new vibes and the truck pulls to the right.
Peace,
Paul |
alhang
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 09, 2002 - 02:19 pm: |
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Paul if your truck pulls to one side you will have to relocate the panhard bar. |
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