Thanks bendts. I really didn't expect a simple question to deteriorate as it has. I think 20 gallons of fuel and 10 gallons of water is reasonable for a family of four in an emergency. Stations were out of gas several days before the last storm and there were no hotels for a couple hundred miles. I don't think it paranoid to have necessities on hand just iin case. God forbid some of the board members here learn I also have a couple cases of MREs at all times. They would surely frown on that and make accusations.
4 Jerry Cans and Two Water Cans?
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After due consideration of the minor poo squall, i would posit the following based on my actuall personal experience.
First thing to consider is you are putting about 250# on the roof. So conside how much oth stuff you plan on putting up there and make sure that the rack/mounts will hold up to the weight. Second, I would use can mounts that can be bolted down. I like the Eropean style cans in twin mounts laying down on the back of the cans. I have seen the reults of vehicle crashes with fuel in the vehicle, not for me. Water on the other hand, fine inside but bolt down a can mount, 40# of water becomes quite the missle in a quick stop senario. Hope that helps.
First thing to consider is you are putting about 250# on the roof. So conside how much oth stuff you plan on putting up there and make sure that the rack/mounts will hold up to the weight. Second, I would use can mounts that can be bolted down. I like the Eropean style cans in twin mounts laying down on the back of the cans. I have seen the reults of vehicle crashes with fuel in the vehicle, not for me. Water on the other hand, fine inside but bolt down a can mount, 40# of water becomes quite the missle in a quick stop senario. Hope that helps.
Thanks Leadvegas,
I am considering these things. I have the heaviest suspension offered by Old Man Emo and may get spacers to add to it. The only problem with water insie is the limited space for gear. I have a soft case for the roof for sleeping bags, pillows, etc. but the other gear takes up the whole rear compartment. If I can secure everything well, I think I would prefer the water on the outside. I feel like I have it figured out but you are right. Gas/watter cans can easily become projectiles. I'm doing what I can.
I am considering these things. I have the heaviest suspension offered by Old Man Emo and may get spacers to add to it. The only problem with water insie is the limited space for gear. I have a soft case for the roof for sleeping bags, pillows, etc. but the other gear takes up the whole rear compartment. If I can secure everything well, I think I would prefer the water on the outside. I feel like I have it figured out but you are right. Gas/watter cans can easily become projectiles. I'm doing what I can.
You got the proportions backwards, numb-nuts.
Either way, bumper mounted fuel cans are pointlessly idiotic on any modern thoroughfare, and you only put that sort of thing on the roof when there's no way to store it inside, in or hooked to a bed, or on a trailer. Those are the ways fuel is carried in the middle of nowhere; where every day is worse than what you'd consider an emergency.
Keep them off the bumper and minimized on the roof as long as you can. This ain't Europe circa 1944. It's a modern civilization that includes nice roads with others on them. Even in an emergency, your circumstances will not be made to improve by outfitting your vehicle in a similar manner to a WWII Jeep.
Cheers,
Kennith
There are auxiliary fuel tanks made for D2's by Terrafirma and Devon 4x4 to name a couple. These would probably work better than Jerry cans hanging off the truck where they can snag zombies and such.
Or you can carry a couple of AR's and several thousand rounds and find all the food and gas you need.
Or you can carry a couple of AR's and several thousand rounds and find all the food and gas you need.
Since I live in the town where all Houstonites think they need to go to avoid hurricanes, I can tell you this: every ill-prepared family in a honda civic with a 1/4 tank of gas still makes it here to fuck up my traffic and buy all the food at the grocery store.
You don't need 6 cans of liquid to go 100 miles.
The most enterprising thing I see is guys in giant Bro-dozers heading towards the storm loaded down with gas to sell. Maybe this is what you are after? A rolling side-hustle?
You don't need 6 cans of liquid to go 100 miles.
The most enterprising thing I see is guys in giant Bro-dozers heading towards the storm loaded down with gas to sell. Maybe this is what you are after? A rolling side-hustle?
What's fucked up about this is I never said "don't be prepared" just don't see the need to carry the food,fuel,water,mre's (that made me laugh), toilet paper,pillows around all the time...
but whatever, you know those pesky little hurricanes sneak right up on you and when it does I say you shuffle up to Colorado and camp together singing Kumba ya, seeing how you'll have gas onboard to do it...
but whatever, you know those pesky little hurricanes sneak right up on you and when it does I say you shuffle up to Colorado and camp together singing Kumba ya, seeing how you'll have gas onboard to do it...
Kenneth- "Numb-nuts?" I had forgotten why I have stayed away from this board for so long. Having said that, your point is well taken. The front bumper is a bad idea. I am just experimenting with different ideas. Was looking for ways to distribute the weight instead of it all being in the rear. Not sure why the name calling.
He's been around Dweb for at least 13 years, and as the other chucklehead noted, has over 5,000 posts. He's not going anywhere.
And the answer you're looking for is ratchet straps.
fishEH- Thanks. With the stiffest OME suspension, do you think I need to consider spacers or something to prevent the rear from sagging? I've had the vehicle pretty loaded and have not needed them but four fuel cans and two water cans seems like a lot. Thanks for your opinion in advance.
Don't take it personally. Just think of Discoweb as the Mos Eisley Cantina of Land Rover internet forums. It's just not a good discussion until someone gets their arm sliced off. Now, if you can get over that...
...here is a product that sounds like it better suits your needs than finding creative places to affix a bunch of jerry cans:
The Long Ranger
It ain't cheap and it ain't as simple as ratcheting some cans to your roof, but it is a superior solution to your problem:
- it keeps fuel out of the cabin
- it frees up storage capacity inside the truck and on the roof
- it is secure
- it keeps the weight low
- no dicking around with 35-pound jerry cans
So if you want to definitively solve your problem, figure out a way to acquire and install this product. If it's more commitment than you are prepared to make, then this thread has already provided your next best answer. Good luck.
Yes. Install spacers for your once a year evacuation.
If you indeed have the stiffest HD rears you should not need spacers. I'm going to be honest, you are over thinking this way too much. Leave this shit in your garage and strap it down when you need it. If you sag a little(which you won't) nobody else will give a fuck so don't worry how dumb your truck will look. Everybody in a normal car not scrapped for fuel will still think you look like a doofus for having 4 jerry cans to drive down the highway.
OK, I'll jump in. Those Aux fuel tanks are for diesels only, be nice if they had them for gasoline, that would be the cat's ass. Anyway, consider the change in center of gravity on an already tall truck, jack it up and things get worse. Weight of this kind should be fairly centered on the frame, and a 500# load limit roof rack isn't going to like being loaded like that on the front end. And the 500#'s of weight should be evenly distributed across it. The high center of gravity (if you put the cans on the rack) will cause trouble in hard cornering, or on undulating ground off road. Where would I put them if I had to, behind the rear seat just in front of the rear axle. Then make canvas bags or some other water proof container and put the lighter goods on the roof rack. OK, fire away...
Ratchet strap four NATO cans inside the truck behind the rear seat. Done. If you use quality cans, they won't leak or smell. I promise you. I drove all around the West on dirt carrying gas this way. Peter (p_m) has done even more miles like this. Try it. You'll see. Don't put cans on your roof rack. It's a bad idea for a number of reasons.
Don't leave gas sitting in your cans for more than a few weeks. Gasoline does not last that long. You will hurt your fuel system running old gas.
Don't leave gas sitting in your cans for more than a few weeks. Gasoline does not last that long. You will hurt your fuel system running old gas.
Actually been around since 2001
This fucking hilarious, you're serious about being concerned that the back of the truck is going to sag and you need to add spring spacers to level it out. WHY, for emergency trips to mall and those speed bumps are hard to navigate? Because the months supply of MRE's is loading down the truck so much it's rubbing while clearing pot holes on the highway?
They do make long range fuel tanks for gas, oh wait, or should I call it petrol to be cool like dmoron and snowflake up in Colorado...He's not going wheeling, he's driving a couple of 100 miles north to try and escape his own stupidity from a storm that could "possible" come on shore and has cleaned out every gas station, grocery store, convience store within 500 miles...
And Chris and Peter are right, I did a 13k trip with 2 jerry cans in the side comaprtments inside the cargo area...but what do we know
This fucking hilarious, you're serious about being concerned that the back of the truck is going to sag and you need to add spring spacers to level it out. WHY, for emergency trips to mall and those speed bumps are hard to navigate? Because the months supply of MRE's is loading down the truck so much it's rubbing while clearing pot holes on the highway?
They do make long range fuel tanks for gas, oh wait, or should I call it petrol to be cool like dmoron and snowflake up in Colorado...He's not going wheeling, he's driving a couple of 100 miles north to try and escape his own stupidity from a storm that could "possible" come on shore and has cleaned out every gas station, grocery store, convience store within 500 miles...
And Chris and Peter are right, I did a 13k trip with 2 jerry cans in the side comaprtments inside the cargo area...but what do we know
Don't take it too hard. I just think that word is funny, and also fun to type.
Cheers,
Kennith
Mongo. You are a pretty tough guy online. I am asking questions because I do not know the answers. If I did, I wouldn't be asking. Why is everyone else civil except you. I don't mind being wrong but you are an ass. Would love to meet you in person. My address is 649 N Post Oak Ln, Houston TX . Stop by and we will see how things work out for you. You Fuck.