Diff Locks

Tultime

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Hello everyone, First I want to apologize for my inexperience. I just did my first modification ever. I have a 2002 Disco Sd. I installed a 3 inch Terrafirma lift, skeleton shock tower, stainless brake line extension, front and rear diff guards, front steel bumper, tom woods drive shaft, snorkel, and 285/75/16 KM3.

How do you know if Cdl kit is applicable for your vehicle?
 

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Sometime in 2000 or early 2001, Land Rover denied D2 owners the ability to even retrofit their vehicles with center diff lock (short of replacement of the transfer case with the earlier or 2004 unit). It was reinstated with much pomp and without any explanation in 2004 model year.
You can check if the transfer case in your truck has the "nipple" to attach the CDL linkage.
 

Tultime

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Thank you very much for the quick response. I will be checking later when I get home and for now I’ll just keep my fingers crossed that I have the diff lock spigot
 

Tultime

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Ok so I confirmed that I do not have the nipple in my transfer case. Again excuse my ignorance because I'm new to this.
How do I convert or modify my truck to have the option to lock my Diffs?
 

K-rover

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Ok so I confirmed that I do not have the nipple in my transfer case. Again excuse my ignorance because I'm new to this.
How do I convert or modify my truck to have the option to lock my Diffs?




We are talking about locking your transfer case, not your differentials. The transfer case locks you into basic 4wd. Right now you have AWD. At this point your only option is to get a LT230 case and shifter assembly. Contact Will Tillery who posted above. That should cost no more than $500 for both.



Locking your "diffs" locks the differentials at the axle. Essentially making all 4 wheels spin together. That involves replacing the 3rd member with a locking type. Air and mechanical are the most common. You might as well regear for larger tires as you're having to rebuild the diffs anyway. So that's about $3K Depending on what lockers you get.



You need to start with the transfer case and shifter. If your traction control is working, you will see a huge improvement offroad. Diff locks are useless if you dont have 4wd.
 

fishEH

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You do realize you're locking the DIFFERENTIAL in the transfercase when you "lock the transfercase", right? It's also known as the "center diff", and the knob to lock it says "diff lock" on it. ;)
We are talking about locking your transfer case, not your differentials. The transfer case locks you into basic 4wd. Right now you have AWD. At this point your only option is to get a LT230 case and shifter assembly. Contact Will Tillery who posted above. That should cost no more than $500 for both.



Locking your "diffs" locks the differentials at the axle. Essentially making all 4 wheels spin together. That involves replacing the 3rd member with a locking type. Air and mechanical are the most common. You might as well regear for larger tires as you're having to rebuild the diffs anyway. So that's about $3K Depending on what lockers you get.



You need to start with the transfer case and shifter. If your traction control is working, you will see a huge improvement offroad. Diff locks are useless if you dont have 4wd.
 

K-rover

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You do realize you're locking the DIFFERENTIAL in the transfercase when you "lock the transfercase", right? It's also known as the "center diff", and the knob to lock it says "diff lock" on it. ;)




Well the OP stated "diffs" not diff. That one letter changes the entire meaning. Thats why I covered both. :rolleyes:
 

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A part-time 4x4 truck has two diffs, front and rear. A full-time 4x4 truck has three diffs, front, center (in transfer case), and rear. No D1 or D2s had locking front or rear diffs. All D1s and some late D2s had locking center diffs. Early D2s did not have locking center diff due to the introduction of traction control. However, many of these early D2s still had the locking transfer case diff but without the linkage (shifter). This allowed linkage to be added to gain center locking ability again. Later, the center locking mechanism was completely removed and thus could not be enabled by added linkage. When the 2004 year D2 rolled around LR realized they fucked up and reintroduced the center locking diff and linkage.
 
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K-rover

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A part-time 4x4 truck has two diffs, front and rear. A full-time 4x4 truck has three diffs, front, center (in transfer case), and rear. No D1 or D2s had locking front or rear diffs. All D1s and some late D2s had locking center diffs. Early D2s did not have locking center diff due to the introduction of traction control. However, many of these early D2s still had the locking transfer case diff but without the linkage (shifter). This allowed linkage to be added to gain center locking ability again. Later, the center locking mechanism was completely removed and thus could not be enabled by added linkage. When the 2004 year D2 rolled around LR realized they fucked up and reintroduced the center locking diff and linkage.




Jesus Christ!! I understand the "center diff" The OP stated diffs. As in plural. Since he already stated that he was new to this. I figured Id explain both the center and the axle diffs. Not sure my response needed anymore clarification, but I forget its DWEB.. :banghead:
 

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Jesus Christ!! I understand the "center diff" The OP stated diffs. As in plural. Since he already stated that he was new to this. I figured Id explain both the center and the axle diffs. Not sure my response needed anymore clarification, but I forget its DWEB.. :banghead:

How many locking center diffs does a full-time 8x8 have?
 

ERover82

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Two is better than none, and of course there are various types of "lockers", but I'd question the strength of an unlocked LT230 with f/r lockers. Perhaps someone can comment on that.
 

kennith

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Two is better than none, and of course there are various types of "lockers", but I'd question the strength of an unlocked LT230 with f/r lockers. Perhaps someone can comment on that.

It's more than capable of handling the vehicle itself in 2WD. The problem is wheels suddenly spinning or suddenly stopping. With an axle locked, you're opening up the potential of a shock load generated by two sets of wheels, tires, and brakes.

On my DII, that's around 250 pounds of rotating mass, give or take. I can't remember the exact number at the moment. That's not a small amount.

So long as you're not an idiot, you should be okay. That said, if you pop that thing, it's certainly going to be a hell of a lot more trouble to fix than an axle differential, and odds are you aren't going to make it home. It'll take the same amount of stupidity that it takes to break an axle differential, though; and quite a few have never broken one.

The same forces can be applied in other ways, though; even with a locked center. It's just less likely.

If you've got the time and money, by all means make the swap. The vehicle looks nice enough to justify it. If not, either learn to drive properly, or stay off of rocky terrain with highly variable traction surfaces. Obviously, it would be best to swap the case, but it's not explicitly necessary to enjoy the vehicle.

It's better to go off-pavement and enjoy a compromise, than to focus so much on perfection that you never go off-pavement; it's just not ideal, and you need to be more careful and know your shit. These things aren't nearly as fragile as people make them out to be, but anything can break.

When that "anything" is hiding in the very heart of a complex transfer case, however, it's a good idea to check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Cheers,

Kennith
 
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