INEOS Grenadier

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Wow, they weren't full of shit when they said by Christmas or New Year's! So surprising that a car company actually delivers on a promise!
 
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Now I'd say the Gren is already at the dealer, who's busy disabling the trailer electrical connections because something doesn't work together. Likely I'll get it with the hitch receiver plastered with a sticker saying I can't tow my 30-foot boat until Ineos comes up with a fix.
Oh snap... I don't have a 30-foot boat.
 

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Now I'd say the Gren is already at the dealer, who's busy disabling the trailer electrical connections because something doesn't work together. Likely I'll get it with the hitch receiver plastered with a sticker saying I can't tow my 30-foot boat until Ineos comes up with a fix.
Oh snap... I don't have a 30-foot boat.
Is there really something wrong that they are disabling your ability to tow with it? That woud completely kill it for me!
 

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Is there really something wrong that they are disabling your ability to tow with it? That woud completely kill it for me!
It is temporary. ROW Grenadiers get a 13pin trailer plug. NAS were changed to a 7-pin but they found a fault between the lighting on the trailer and vehicle rendering it unsafe. They do not want to remove the harness, so they are removing the hitch and fitting a blanking plate. A fix is supposed to be ready in January when they will reinstall your hitch with the update.

To adjust for the inconvenience, the cost of the tow package will be deducted from your final vehicle cost.
 

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A setback, but giving away the tow package for free to make up for it is really great customer service. They could have just done something stupid like a $100 gift card towards a Belstaff jacket.
 
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Land Rover abandoned their base clientele and heritage in the name of money, they haven't produced an off road since the departure of the original Defender. Who's paying upwards of $75K for a vehicle to off roading.
 

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Land Rover abandoned their base clientele and heritage in the name of money, they haven't produced an off road since the departure of the original Defender. Who's paying upwards of $75K for a vehicle to off roading.
Are you asking who buys a $75k Landy to go off road or are you asking who buys a $75k vehicle and takes it off road?
If the latter that is the market the Gren is going after and no doubt the members from this forum as well as NAS-ROW Land Rover Defender forum plus others who purchase them will be going off road in them.
 
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Are you asking who buys a $75k Landy to go off road or are you asking who buys a $75k vehicle and takes it off road?
If the latter that is the market the Gren is going after and no doubt the members from this forum as well as NAS-ROW Land Rover Defender forum plus others who purchase them will be going off road in them.
Uh, 75k... try 93k for my build, which I will not be taking delivery of, LOL. Screenshot_20231128-091957.png
Or 100K

 

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Land Rover abandoned their base clientele and heritage in the name of money, they haven't produced an off road since the departure of the original Defender. Who's paying upwards of $75K for a vehicle to off roading.

A LOT of people nowadays. Just look at the Jeeps with Hemi motors, Ford Raptors, and more. Hell, even RZR"s can get up over 50k now for the top of the line 4 seaters, then add on mods and those don't even give you the daily driver multi-purpose functionality. Not to mention the Rover owners that actually do it, too.

I personally wouldn't do it with a Grenadier, but more power to those who will and enjoy themselves. I am excited to see how these do out in the wild.
 
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Land Rover abandoned their base clientele and heritage in the name of money, they haven't produced an off road since the departure of the original Defender. Who's paying upwards of $75K for a vehicle to off roading.
Discoweb has historically had a "CB" slant.
However - a 1996 Discovery SE sticker price was $35350 (according to cars.com). Inflation-adjusted price in October of 2023 is $69,319.12, which is a hair away from $75K for a Grenadier - which is far more of a vehicle than the Disco. The inflation-adjusted price of a 1993 D110 is almost exactly $75K.
IIRC, "back then" Land Rover boasted that more than 50% of its customers took their vehicles off road.
 

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Discoweb has historically had a "CB" slant.
However - a 1996 Discovery SE sticker price was $35350 (according to cars.com). Inflation-adjusted price in October of 2023 is $69,319.12, which is a hair away from $75K for a Grenadier - which is far more of a vehicle than the Disco. The inflation-adjusted price of a 1993 D110 is almost exactly $75K.
IIRC, "back then" Land Rover boasted that more than 50% of its customers took their vehicles off road.

Exactly. I bought my first Discovery in 1997. I was like 26-27 years old and spent way way way too much for a car for my income like many dumb 20 somethings do. Then even I was even dumb enough to take it wheeling. Land Rover dealers in the area would host off road events for its customers. They were a lot of fun with a bunch of people in stock rigs who had no idea what they were doing (including me) giggling about going through deep mud puddles or struggling up muddy inclines with the stock Michelins. I am very glad for that stupidity which led to far more good times for the rest of my life than whatever else I could have spent my money on. I still think I had more fun in a stock vehicle than I ever had later on after I learned all about lifts, modifications, big tires, etc. Just brings you to the same experience on bigger obstacles with each upgrade.

Anyway, I forget exactly where they held these, but the one I remember most was hosted by a guy who onwed a bison ranch about 1-2 hours North of Chicago and let Land Rover do events there. Lunch was all the free bison burgers you could eat. Good times.
 

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Thinking about this I guess I'm looking at it with blinders on, so to speak. When I think of "off-roading" I'm thinking mud, muddy water, etc, and there's no way I'm doing that to a 75-100k plus vehicle that relies on a shit ton of electronics to simply start. But, considering what off-roading means to most here (desert, sand, rocks, overlanding) I guess that's not so outrageous. That said, even 75k puts it out of the reach of so many people, when there are other good options (Jeep, Bronco, Tacoma). I just don't see them capturing much of the NA market at that price point.

That said, are the powers that be opening a Grenadier forum here? I think you should. Good little group of people here.
 

RVR OVR

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Yeah,
Thinking about this I guess I'm looking at it with blinders on, so to speak. When I think of "off-roading" I'm thinking mud, muddy water, etc, and there's no way I'm doing that to a 75-100k plus vehicle that relies on a shit ton of electronics to simply start. But, considering what off-roading means to most here (desert, sand, rocks, overlanding) I guess that's not so outrageous. That said, even 75k puts it out of the reach of so many people, when there are other good options (Jeep, Bronco, Tacoma). I just don't see them capturing much of the NA market at that price point.

That said, are the powers that be opening a Grenadier forum here? I think you should. Good little group of people here.
Yeah, there are all kinds of levels to it. Fire roads and easy trails are plenty fun in stock vehicles. Its when you start twisting through trees, going in deeper than 3 feet of mud/water, and bouncing off rocks that changes things. I wheeled my first Rover and had fun on 33's with a three inch lift. Then my wheeling buddies all started going to 35's , 38's and now fully caged buggies with 40"+ tires and it kind of was stupid to tag along and just take all the bypasses or drag myself around with a winch or tow strap all day. Totally different ball game.
 

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Here is an example - I only take my RZR off road now. It is capaible on 32's considering the bottom of it is 100% plastic skid plate and I can drag up stuff and its very light. But, I still can't make it where these guys go a lot of times. If this is "off roading" to somebody, then any new vehicle would be a terrible idea.
 

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