109 Diff | Axle Options
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Don't take me the wrong way, that's cool man. If I were going that route, I'd use Rangie/Disco 1 axles then, so if you're out somewhere exploring, parts might be a little easier to come by than looking for Sals stuff.,.... yes I know about the Dana 60 stuff,...TurdFerguson said:
AND if you were to convert to an lt230, you could swap a third this way if you grenaded one and still limp home. Just my .02. Good Luck with the build!
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eric w siepmann
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Blueboy said:
Sounds stupid to me. You could easily sell them to other folks for more than the cost of scrap. Buyer pays shipping and pallet cost and bob's your uncle!
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whatroad said:Ford 9 inch from an early Bronco, Sals are too big, hang too low, and are still just 10 splines... weak. If you're going to pony up the coin to upgrade a Sals to 24 spline stuff, consider the 9 inch. They are darn near bullet proof, compact and the gearing selection is far greater to allow you to tailor it your needs. Unless you're a Rover geek and have to run everything Rover..........
I don't know why everyone wets themselves over a Salisbury rear.... we throw them in the scrap pile EVERY chance we get!.
You sure about the Salsbury being 10 spline? Pretty sure they aren't. I'd love to go to a ford 9" too but would have to deal with the front gearing and the rear pumpkin being centered. Just have to go with 9" front and rear! Sounds like you could hook TurdF. up with a good salisbury for the cost of scrap.
Jason T.
Salisbury.
In a 109 you can install a Detroit locker in it and hardly ever know its in there. Call up Performance Off Road Center (porc) and they can get you a detroit for the salisbury for like, 400 bucks. My locker only speaks up when I hit the gas around a corner and once every 6 months it *might* pop. The 109 wheelbase is so long that it minimizes the effects of the locker.
Why lock it? The 109s are so big and heavy, they need all the help they can get.
My Salisbury is 24 spline. I beat the piss out of it, locked, hammer down kinda stuff with 34" super swampers. Never had a problem. It'll bolt right in and you're good to go.
For the driveshaft, call up Carolina Driveline and they can custom make whatever you want. I plan on dropping mine off there sometime in the next few weeks. I'll tell them to write down the specs in case you decide to call em. He can build you an awesome driveshaft for cheaper than a used driveshaft (most of the time!).
In a 109 you can install a Detroit locker in it and hardly ever know its in there. Call up Performance Off Road Center (porc) and they can get you a detroit for the salisbury for like, 400 bucks. My locker only speaks up when I hit the gas around a corner and once every 6 months it *might* pop. The 109 wheelbase is so long that it minimizes the effects of the locker.
Why lock it? The 109s are so big and heavy, they need all the help they can get.
My Salisbury is 24 spline. I beat the piss out of it, locked, hammer down kinda stuff with 34" super swampers. Never had a problem. It'll bolt right in and you're good to go.
For the driveshaft, call up Carolina Driveline and they can custom make whatever you want. I plan on dropping mine off there sometime in the next few weeks. I'll tell them to write down the specs in case you decide to call em. He can build you an awesome driveshaft for cheaper than a used driveshaft (most of the time!).
Jason T. said:
no the salisbury's are 24 spline w/~1.24" shafts. Regular leafspring spiral bevel Rover diffs are 10 spline ~1.10" shafts.
You could get the 4.7 ratio Toyota diffs that Mercedes Rover was talking about a while back and and leave the front alone, that would get you a hypoid diff- and 30 spline 1.3" shafts.
http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/reply/6306#reply-6306
A Stock Salisbury would be easiest though, snag this $200 one:
http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/topic/4462
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eric w siepmann
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whatroad said:
Club member sold one locally for $600. Scrap ain't doing that well...
See Yorkers link above as well...
You might actually take a look at them before you toss any more. You might realize they are significantly better than you have led yourself to believe. They make alot more sense than a ford 9 inch.
I'm an employee,... and when the boss says scrap them, I do so.leafsprung said:
I don't readily agree with them being better than a 9 inch, and by NO means am I a Ford fan...
A Sals gives up a lot of ground clearance, just like a 60, so if you're telling me that doesn't matter, maybe we just wheel in different terrain. The same could be said of a corp. 14, where this is the only rear that Detroit doesn't have to provide a new carrier for.
I'm not saying that a Sals can't be built to "almost not break", but the original post was someone was looking to turn a 109 into an expedition rig, with a Series( I assume) Sals rear (10 spline), Yes I know that these were used in the 1 ton versions as well, .....
Personally I feel that ALL rover axles in STOCK trim suck the minute you go above the duty of stock. Dana's would be a far better choice as well.:yawn:
Also, by running a non rover axle set might prove to easier to repair if you break down in some remote location and the local mechanic asks what year is that Jeep(WTF). Yes I know parts can be ordered and drop shipped, but if said mechanic hasn't even seen a rover before,.. I don't know if I'd want him working on it. Unfortunately, those said mechanics usually have a fair amount of exper. fixing Ford, Chevy crap., so Dana's and 9 inchers seem better.
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Whatroad,
The question is framed as the best of the 4 alternatives based on keeping it simple, keeping costs down and keeping 4.7:1 gearing. Modifying a 9" is beyond the average Joe, would be a custom axle due to it's width, lug pattern and pumpkin location (more expensive) and doesn't offer a 4.7:1 gear ratio.
If your employer is a company like ECR that does first class conversions then I imagine their choice of not reusing the old axle is based on not wanting to use old parts as a matter of economics and warranty rather than the attributes of the axle.
And a salisbury is NOT a 10 spline.
Jason T.
The question is framed as the best of the 4 alternatives based on keeping it simple, keeping costs down and keeping 4.7:1 gearing. Modifying a 9" is beyond the average Joe, would be a custom axle due to it's width, lug pattern and pumpkin location (more expensive) and doesn't offer a 4.7:1 gear ratio.
If your employer is a company like ECR that does first class conversions then I imagine their choice of not reusing the old axle is based on not wanting to use old parts as a matter of economics and warranty rather than the attributes of the axle.
And a salisbury is NOT a 10 spline.
Jason T.
whatroad said:Huh?... then the last three that I removed must have been freaks of nature:rofl:
Who's ECR?
Well I would agree with that I guess. How do you know the spline count? Does your employer pay to to inspect the axle before eagerly throwing in the scrap bin? That's kinda odd...
Jason T.
I found a good deal on a Sals ARB Locker so Sals it is.
BTW, is it Salsbury or Salisbury? I keep seeing both...which is correct?
BTW, is it Salsbury or Salisbury? I keep seeing both...which is correct?