10lb CO2 tank - lateral mount?
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CO2 is liquid so it wouldn't work on its side if the tank was more than half full, I believe but I am no expert. Mabe Nitrogen??
Or better yet get a couple of 5 lb tanks that will stand up in that space
Or better yet get a couple of 5 lb tanks that will stand up in that space
I wouldn't put any compressed gas tank on it side. That's a recipe for trouble if you ever damage the regulator; it'll turn in to a missile. Upright it'll just vent the gas (the resulting force would be downwards).
Keep the OBA, it's slick. Do you not have enough capacity? Add an additional tank underneath the truck?
Keep the OBA, it's slick. Do you not have enough capacity? Add an additional tank underneath the truck?
It's ok to be stored on it's side, But while using it, it needs to be upright, or you may send liquid co2 into your regulator, which is going to die pretty fast like that. If you're looking for a way to store it, check this place out, and use a mount for a scuba tank.
http://www.ecpdb.com/rollcontrol.htm#PVC%20Track
http://www.ecpdb.com/rollcontrol.htm#PVC%20Track
I fully understand that you can't mount a regular vertically oriented tank on it's side, that's why I'm looking for a tank that is designed to mount horizontally... similar to the tank I have now, w/ ports coming out the top.
The setup I have now has plenty of capacity for running an air locker, but isn't enough if I want to run air tools. I'm going to either go with a laterally mounted CO2 tank or just wait see if I can figure out a way to up a York.
Craig
The setup I have now has plenty of capacity for running an air locker, but isn't enough if I want to run air tools. I'm going to either go with a laterally mounted CO2 tank or just wait see if I can figure out a way to up a York.
Craig
Scott, it's liquified gas cylinder, not compressed.SGaynor said:
The issue here is that the regulator won't work with the liquid - I don't know how will it fail, most likely, the diaphragm will rupture when it is exposed to liquid CO2 evaporating off its surface.
Also, regulator is mounted on the side of a CO2 tank, so if it is ripped off, it'll be a missile when a tank is upright. The valve should be protected, in any case.
Agreed, I think the diaphragm will rupture due to the extreme cold temp it will be exposed to as the CO2 evaporates, it will become very brittle and more than likely crack then complete failure. PV=nRT.
SGaynor said:
The pump is rated for 2.5cfm at 30 psi (max 120psi, 100% duty cycle), but it drops way down at 90psi. I have another pump just like it that I planned to install in parallel to this one, but there isn't enough room to fit it in this location. The other thing is that these pumps pull about 30 amps, making a second one pretty undesirable.
The tanks are bulky, so I don't really want to add another one. If anything, I'll pull the tank and install something like the ARB compressor with the tank built in. The one I have now doesn't do anything but hold air for the locker anyway, so there's really no point in having one this big. Now, if I could get a York to work....
Thanks for the link. I'm hopefully wrong, but I don't think that will work with the Bosch 4.6 (DII).
So, back to my original question... Anyone know of a tank that mounts on its side w/ the regulator port coming out the top when it is on its side? It might be uncommon, but someone has to make one.
Craig
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p m said:
Yes, they will both freeze the regulator and the CO2 liquid is highly corrosive. I'd hate to squirt CO2 liquid into my locker, air tools, or anything else.
Craig
p m said:
Second poster suggested N2, but same deal for liquefied gases. I agree that for liquefied gases, they won't work (put out liquid, not gas) on their sides and the regulators will likely fail.
Regulators are on the top of CO2 tanks. Maybe we are confusing terms? The valve is at the top; the regulator is at 90* to that. I'm referring to the valve/regulator as "one" unit. The valve is not on the side of a tank (any portable compressed/liquefied gas tank that I've ever seen, maybe one in a plant setting). In general, if the regulator fails and the tank is on its side, it'll probably spin, not take off like a torpedo/missile. Break the valve and watch out.
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CO2 is not corrosive.
Find something somewhere that supports that bullshit.
If it was how come fountain soda machines around the world aren't corroding away.
Find something somewhere that supports that bullshit.
If it was how come fountain soda machines around the world aren't corroding away.
Bannon88 said:
I shouldn't have said corrosive and definately shouldn't have used the word "highly". What I read is that the CO2 in liquid form can be kind of gritty which might mess up the regulator. It definately doesn't cause Steel to rust, or cause other types of corrosion.
Craig
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SGaynor said:
I am looking for a wide fat tank w/ the valve/regulator coming out the top. For example, my VIAIR air tank that is in the truck now has an air port on the top and feet on the bottom for mounting. I'm looking for a similar tank certified for use with CO2. I haven't seen one before either, which is why I'm asking here.
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I'd be very surprised if you found one.craig said:
Scott - the valve is threaded into the tank, and this thread is very stout. The thread the regulator attaches to the valve, and the pipe between the valve thread and the regulator, are much less robust. What that means is - if you drop the tank on the floor, valve down, the valve is unlike to break off, while the regulator almost certainly will. Here's the difference in margin of safety.
p m said:
Me too. Google didn't show up anything last night. Air tanks, propane tanks, but not CO2 tanks.