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Rugbier said:
Once again I will state that you cannot LEGALLY import any vehicle regardless of year and model for ROAD USE.
If you want to check out facts, kindly go to the DOT's website. End of story.
Continue to believe that "grey market" vehicles are in fact legal. Just because a state puts a tag on it doesn't make it legal. Lack of enforcement and legality are two different and distinct things.
It is just as legal as marijuana in California.
The DOT has actually called out specific rules on the importation of Defenders because of nuts like us trying to sneak them in.
Shady dealers import cars for OFFROAD use and then slap tags on them using state regulations for untitled vehicles. This is how dealers get these cars into the country.
Rugbier said:
PS. Based on your post it is obvious you are confusing importation for road use and the "transfer", registration, or purchase of a grey market vehicle.
Keep your $ 50.00, Come to MD, I WILL SHOW YOU the car, and the MD Title.
Man, I guess now ALL THE POKER PLAYERS WILL RUN AWAY
Regards,
Man, I guess now ALL THE POKER PLAYERS WILL RUN AWAY
Regards,
Mongo said:
No No NO,
PLEASE read the complete POST, I am not in a BIT CONFUSSED.
Also, I am not talking SLAPPING A TAG TRANSFER.
Help me understand where this comes from, HAVING A TITLE from any of the STATES ( I know CALIFORNIA WILL REQUEST THE DOT/EPA Certification ), does not make the car LEGAL? I beg to dissagree with you but it does.
And yes, as very well posted before by other members if you wish the 110 to be North America specs, will run the TAB a tide hide, but this does not take to make the vehicle LEGAL if you take advantages of certain options.
ANYHOW, this is my opinion, and doesn't intend to cause a FEDERAL CASE
PLEASE read the complete POST, I am not in a BIT CONFUSSED.
Also, I am not talking SLAPPING A TAG TRANSFER.
Help me understand where this comes from, HAVING A TITLE from any of the STATES ( I know CALIFORNIA WILL REQUEST THE DOT/EPA Certification ), does not make the car LEGAL? I beg to dissagree with you but it does.
And yes, as very well posted before by other members if you wish the 110 to be North America specs, will run the TAB a tide hide, but this does not take to make the vehicle LEGAL if you take advantages of certain options.
ANYHOW, this is my opinion, and doesn't intend to cause a FEDERAL CASE
Justin Kurosaki said:
Thanks,
Well you are NOT EXACTLY BREAKING ANY LAWS, and to be a tad more semantic, once the title is issued ( correctly put by you , is a state matter ) it also becomes a FEDERAL since the ODOMETER REPORTING takes place.
Regards,
Well you are NOT EXACTLY BREAKING ANY LAWS, and to be a tad more semantic, once the title is issued ( correctly put by you , is a state matter ) it also becomes a FEDERAL since the ODOMETER REPORTING takes place.
Regards,
sean said:
Man I am honored,
I rubbed you the wrong way? I see you linked the thread of the Winch mount, well the ACTUAL QUESTION HAS NOT BEEN RESPONDED BY ANYONE, simply disrespectfull answer .
Marc was not called off, simply he placed his point and I did mine. I know Marc is some sort of Guru on his mods, but the approach was not right. And again, he is not the one lashing out, but 100's of other are?
Again, I read this forum ( as well the others ) for years, never had a question to ask so I did not have the needs to sign. ( nor the time )
So why is all the BS following the 110 THREAD?
AS for the 110 import, thought... people might want to know it is LEGAL ( if you guys want to call it POSSIBLE .. go ahead ) to bring one in.
Thanks for your time
I rubbed you the wrong way? I see you linked the thread of the Winch mount, well the ACTUAL QUESTION HAS NOT BEEN RESPONDED BY ANYONE, simply disrespectfull answer .
Marc was not called off, simply he placed his point and I did mine. I know Marc is some sort of Guru on his mods, but the approach was not right. And again, he is not the one lashing out, but 100's of other are?
Again, I read this forum ( as well the others ) for years, never had a question to ask so I did not have the needs to sign. ( nor the time )
So why is all the BS following the 110 THREAD?
AS for the 110 import, thought... people might want to know it is LEGAL ( if you guys want to call it POSSIBLE .. go ahead ) to bring one in.
Thanks for your time
David Despain said:
I am POSITIVE about YES in NY and NO in CA. ( CA will require the DOT/EPA papers on hand ).
Mongo said:
I love this argument.
All i have to say, and not that anyone cares about what i have to say, is that everyone who claims to have a way to import and make legal 110's or what ever, never seem to come clean with how the entire process goes.
There is always some "mystery" and "secret ways" and "if i told you i wouldn't be able to corner the market on this".
All i can say is that if there was a legal way to do it, then there would be a lot more 110's in the country and we wouldn't have to pay fuckingstupidretarded prices for them because they would be everywhere.
Word.
I am not saying BS, but it sure smells like cow poo.
All i have to say, and not that anyone cares about what i have to say, is that everyone who claims to have a way to import and make legal 110's or what ever, never seem to come clean with how the entire process goes.
There is always some "mystery" and "secret ways" and "if i told you i wouldn't be able to corner the market on this".
All i can say is that if there was a legal way to do it, then there would be a lot more 110's in the country and we wouldn't have to pay fuckingstupidretarded prices for them because they would be everywhere.
Word.
I am not saying BS, but it sure smells like cow poo.
We all DO RESPECT,
There is no MARKET CORNERING or 007 SECRETS, etc, it is just the Process is extensive, detail and oopppss I almost forgot NOT FREE.
I have ( as I can see in the post ) told pretty much, if YOU or ANYOTHER person ( that sometimes claim to be in the market for one of this, but then tell NO INTEREST ) some of the steps to take.
Can I bring vehicles to the country from EU, OF COURSE I CAN, I have done several, sold few, and 2 are on my garage.
I don't understand the need to ACCUSE SOMEONE of not telling the truth, when if in doubt, call the IMPORTERS.
Several of them will work with you, anf even better, if you DO your search in EU ( I have only brought cars from there ), locate the Vehicle, their fee is much lesser.
Would be nice ( but maybe like MLK , WILL BE JUST A DREAM ) that people RATHER than jumping on People's Throats that have the item at hand, they will just listen, if they want to do it great, if not fine.
AS FOR THE Prices, well if you bring a newer 110. after you are set and done you will still pay ( for your consideration maybe ) CRAZY AMOUNTS, but I will rather pay that amount than make someone with a 93 happy with 70k.
ONE FINAL POINT. There is a MEMBER here from MD, he used to work with his Dad ( before he started his own LR Repair Shop in PA ) in MD, VERY VERY WELL KNOWN AND RESPECTED PLACE ( Father owns a very respectful Collection ) , they have worked on 2 or 3 of my ( according to the KNOW ALL WITHOUT A PHYSICAL SAMPLE " NOT LEGAL " ) Euro Cars.
So once again, I can CALL THE BLUFF, but others DO NOT.
So I always wonder WHERE THE COW POO POO really sticks?
There is no MARKET CORNERING or 007 SECRETS, etc, it is just the Process is extensive, detail and oopppss I almost forgot NOT FREE.
I have ( as I can see in the post ) told pretty much, if YOU or ANYOTHER person ( that sometimes claim to be in the market for one of this, but then tell NO INTEREST ) some of the steps to take.
Can I bring vehicles to the country from EU, OF COURSE I CAN, I have done several, sold few, and 2 are on my garage.
I don't understand the need to ACCUSE SOMEONE of not telling the truth, when if in doubt, call the IMPORTERS.
Several of them will work with you, anf even better, if you DO your search in EU ( I have only brought cars from there ), locate the Vehicle, their fee is much lesser.
Would be nice ( but maybe like MLK , WILL BE JUST A DREAM ) that people RATHER than jumping on People's Throats that have the item at hand, they will just listen, if they want to do it great, if not fine.
AS FOR THE Prices, well if you bring a newer 110. after you are set and done you will still pay ( for your consideration maybe ) CRAZY AMOUNTS, but I will rather pay that amount than make someone with a 93 happy with 70k.
ONE FINAL POINT. There is a MEMBER here from MD, he used to work with his Dad ( before he started his own LR Repair Shop in PA ) in MD, VERY VERY WELL KNOWN AND RESPECTED PLACE ( Father owns a very respectful Collection ) , they have worked on 2 or 3 of my ( according to the KNOW ALL WITHOUT A PHYSICAL SAMPLE " NOT LEGAL " ) Euro Cars.
So once again, I can CALL THE BLUFF, but others DO NOT.
So I always wonder WHERE THE COW POO POO really sticks?
msggunny said:
lets clarify something before we continue.
I AM NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF IMPORTING VEHICLES FOR LIVING, I simply have done it for my OWN pleasure.
You have asked if it was legal in CA or NY before, so I have answered from experience, I do know MD will be ( as I live here ) and NJ and FL as well as I did have cars on both states titled.
I know some states in the NE do not even issue titles, so I am sure if a vehicle is imported there it will very very easy ( HINT ) to register it afterwards in other states.
If you want to spend more time ( and be serious about it ) contact the importers as they will not do it just as a WEB THREAD.
I AM NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF IMPORTING VEHICLES FOR LIVING, I simply have done it for my OWN pleasure.
You have asked if it was legal in CA or NY before, so I have answered from experience, I do know MD will be ( as I live here ) and NJ and FL as well as I did have cars on both states titled.
I know some states in the NE do not even issue titles, so I am sure if a vehicle is imported there it will very very easy ( HINT ) to register it afterwards in other states.
If you want to spend more time ( and be serious about it ) contact the importers as they will not do it just as a WEB THREAD.
Mongo said:
Neither in OHIO as in laws live there
Timmy!!!!!!! said:Alabama! No emissions test and no inspections in this state
found this after :30 seconds of searching...basically says if the importer of a NON US VEHICLE doesn't make it meet DOT/EPA standards...your fucked. I'm sure that there a people that will import it, but they will make you responsible to bring it up to DOT/EPA standards, and even if you get tags, they still can override the state that it's tagged in. Which means, you could spend a shit load of cash, tag it, then have it confiscated because IT AIN"T LEGAL. You really want to risk it...good luck, hope it's never in a accident
Emission Standards
The following passenger cars, light-duty trucks, heavy-duty engines and motorcycles are subject to Federal emission standards:
Gasoline-fueled cars and light-duty trucks originally manufactured after December 31, 1967.
Diesel-fueled cars originally manufactured after December 31, 1974.
Diesel-fueled light-duty trucks originally manufactured after December 31, 1975.
Heavy-duty engines originally manufactured after December 31, 1969.
Motorcycles with a displacement of more than 49 cubic centimeters originally manufactured after December 31, 1977.
Beginning with the 1974 model year, vehicles that were originally manufactured to meet U.S. emission requirements, if driven outside the United States, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia, Taiwan or the Bahama Islands, may be required to have their oxygen sensor and/or catalytic converter replaced. You may import your U.S.-version vehicle under a Customs bond and have any qualified mechanic perform the necessary work. You should contact the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) directly for detailed requirements and options before shipping your vehicle.
Nonconforming vehicles must be imported for you by a currently certified Independent Commercial Importer (ICI), a list of which is available from the EPA. This list should be obtained before you decide to import a car. The ICI will be responsible for assuring that your car complies with all U.S. emission requirements. (As of July 1, 1988, EPA no longer has the one-time exemption for vehicles five or more model-years old.) Be aware that EPA will deny entry to certain makes, models, and model years if an ICI is not certified or is unwilling to accept responsibility for the vehicle(s) in question.
For importing motor vehicles, the EPA has an Information Faxback System: 202-564-9660, and additional Voice Help: 202-564-9240. Ask for a copy of the Automotive Imports Facts Manual (order #EPA420B94006), which describes emission requirements for imported vehicles. You may also contact the EPA by faxing (202) 565-2057, or writing: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Manufacturers Operations Division 6405-J, Investigation/Imports Section, 401 M Street, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20460.
Individual state emission requirements may differ from those of the federal government. Proper registration of a vehicle in a state may depend upon satisfaction of its requirements, so you should contact the appropriate state authorities prior to importation. Be aware, however, that EPA will not accept compliance with a state's emission requirements as satisfying EPA's.
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A Word of Caution
Both the Department of Transportation (DOT) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) advise that although a nonconforming car may be conditionally admitted, the modifications required to bring it into compliance may be so extensive and costly that it may be impractical and even impossible to achieve such compliance. Moreover, some vehicle models are prohibited from importation. It is highly recommended that these prohibitions and modifications be investigated before a vehicle is purchased for importation.
whatever...
Emission Standards
The following passenger cars, light-duty trucks, heavy-duty engines and motorcycles are subject to Federal emission standards:
Gasoline-fueled cars and light-duty trucks originally manufactured after December 31, 1967.
Diesel-fueled cars originally manufactured after December 31, 1974.
Diesel-fueled light-duty trucks originally manufactured after December 31, 1975.
Heavy-duty engines originally manufactured after December 31, 1969.
Motorcycles with a displacement of more than 49 cubic centimeters originally manufactured after December 31, 1977.
Beginning with the 1974 model year, vehicles that were originally manufactured to meet U.S. emission requirements, if driven outside the United States, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Australia, Taiwan or the Bahama Islands, may be required to have their oxygen sensor and/or catalytic converter replaced. You may import your U.S.-version vehicle under a Customs bond and have any qualified mechanic perform the necessary work. You should contact the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) directly for detailed requirements and options before shipping your vehicle.
Nonconforming vehicles must be imported for you by a currently certified Independent Commercial Importer (ICI), a list of which is available from the EPA. This list should be obtained before you decide to import a car. The ICI will be responsible for assuring that your car complies with all U.S. emission requirements. (As of July 1, 1988, EPA no longer has the one-time exemption for vehicles five or more model-years old.) Be aware that EPA will deny entry to certain makes, models, and model years if an ICI is not certified or is unwilling to accept responsibility for the vehicle(s) in question.
For importing motor vehicles, the EPA has an Information Faxback System: 202-564-9660, and additional Voice Help: 202-564-9240. Ask for a copy of the Automotive Imports Facts Manual (order #EPA420B94006), which describes emission requirements for imported vehicles. You may also contact the EPA by faxing (202) 565-2057, or writing: U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Manufacturers Operations Division 6405-J, Investigation/Imports Section, 401 M Street, S.W., Washington, D.C. 20460.
Individual state emission requirements may differ from those of the federal government. Proper registration of a vehicle in a state may depend upon satisfaction of its requirements, so you should contact the appropriate state authorities prior to importation. Be aware, however, that EPA will not accept compliance with a state's emission requirements as satisfying EPA's.
Return to Contents
A Word of Caution
Both the Department of Transportation (DOT) and the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) advise that although a nonconforming car may be conditionally admitted, the modifications required to bring it into compliance may be so extensive and costly that it may be impractical and even impossible to achieve such compliance. Moreover, some vehicle models are prohibited from importation. It is highly recommended that these prohibitions and modifications be investigated before a vehicle is purchased for importation.
whatever...
I was expecting to read from the EPA/DOT guidelines smething more like " WE WANT TO SUCK YOU DRY OF YOUR CASH IF YOU WANT YOUR UNIQUE CAR, OUR LAWS ARE THESE.. BLAH, BLAH.. HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO EXCERCISE THE OTHER OPTIONS, GO AHEAD, WE DON'T CARE, WE JUST WANT YOUR CASH...we'll look the other way as we have being doing forever..."
I hope you are not serious about this.
BTW,
accidents? TOTALLY COVERED
confiscate? half of california and florida will be inpounded
ALL Enzo's , Challenge's, Veyron's, McLarens F1's, Leggero's, 959's amongst few of them WHERE NOT / ARE NOT / PROBABLY WILL NEVER BE, DOT/EPA vehicles, and man.. they are all over our highways..
BTW, all you have to do if you dissagree with the importation, simply don't do it, and if you want a 110, drop 70k on a vehicle tha twas 40k msrp 15years ago... or as you put it before...
WHATEVER
I hope you are not serious about this.
BTW,
accidents? TOTALLY COVERED
confiscate? half of california and florida will be inpounded
ALL Enzo's , Challenge's, Veyron's, McLarens F1's, Leggero's, 959's amongst few of them WHERE NOT / ARE NOT / PROBABLY WILL NEVER BE, DOT/EPA vehicles, and man.. they are all over our highways..
BTW, all you have to do if you dissagree with the importation, simply don't do it, and if you want a 110, drop 70k on a vehicle tha twas 40k msrp 15years ago... or as you put it before...
WHATEVER
Mongo said:
Rugbier said:
Sykesville Maryland must be the exotic car Valhalla because I live in Southern California and even we don't have these cars "all over our highways".
lrsafari said:
No big deal, he is military. I have Ohio plates on mine and i live in NC, Ohio is my home of reccord and i get to keep my reg there as long as i am in.
Makes it eaiser than haveing to re-register it every 3 years when i have to move.