17" Tire recommendations on the D1

[forcefed44]

So I've been wracking my brain going back and forth and read alot of technical discussions regarding this rim size subject and have decided to go with a 17" size due to having BFG KO's in 17's in 245/70/17 and 265/70/17 in the storage for my other truck (non LR)..

What I want to know is what would be the optimal 17" tire size to run on a 2.5" lifted Discovery 1. The offset of the wheels would be et 0 to -20 which I'm looking at.

Currently I'm running Freestyle wheels upgraded from the Caster's and I have 16" offset steels for the Disco1 which are just sitting in the storage and I'd be looking into either new AT/MT 245/75/16 or 265/70/16's but the tire prices aren't much different for 16"s over the 17"s.

Thanks,
Chris

 

[Timmy!!!!!!!]

Stick with the 16s. On a Coniston Disco it is just right.

 

[fishEH]

Well if 235/85 and 265/75 are the most common tires for 16" wheels, just do the math an pick a 17" tires with similar dimensions.
What 17" wheels are you getting?

 

[antichrist]

Optimal for what use? 32" OD is about as large as I'd go on road without gearing changes.
I can't imagine that replacing stock 16" (that you already have) with aftermarket 17" wheels could possibly be cost effective.

 

[fishEH]

Optimal for what use? 32" OD is about as large as I'd go on road without gearing changes.
I can't imagine that replacing stock 16" (that you already have) with aftermarket 17" wheels could possibly be cost effective.

17" tires aren't any cheaper than 16" tires, I've checked. The only way its cost effective is if you already have tires which it sounds like he does.

 

[p m]

One of the dumbest ways of reasoning...
Just like "I'd like to swap in a Chevy 350 - because I have one laying around..."

 

[antichrist]

17" tires aren't any cheaper than 16" tires, I've checked. The only way its cost effective is if you already have tires which it sounds like he does.

Yeah, I suppose so, if 17" wheels as good or better than the the stock wheels can be found for less than tires.
I'm also curious what 17" wheels he's looking at.

One of the dumbest ways of reasoning...
Just like "I'd like to swap in a Chevy 350 - because I have one laying around..."

Well, an engine swap is a bit, more work. But, in general, I agree. If it were me, even if 17" wheels were cheaper to buy than 16" tires, I'd sell the tires and apply the money to the difference.

 

[Jake1996D1]

One of the dumbest ways of reasoning...
Just like "I'd like to swap in a Chevy 350 - because I have one laying around..."

Fuck you Peter - it's gonna happen

 

[fishEH]

Fuck you Peter - it's gonna happen

LOL. I thought he was talking about you.

 

[Jake1996D1]

LOL. I thought he was talking about you.

I figured but he doesn't have balls to say it. Besides the fact I have a 350 the Rover v8 is a turd

 

[mgreenspan]

I had a thought about 17" because so many vehicles are going that way. I then realized that I have no need to go to a bigger sized wheel or tire. Here's a price comparison from Discount Tire all for BFG AT T/A KO since that is probably the most commonly selected AT tire or at least initially desired tire(until the wallet is actually opened).

245/75R16 (30.5") - $201
265/75R16 (31.6") - $196
285/75R16 (32.8") - $235

245/70R17 (30.5") - $206
265/70R17 (31.6") - $229
285/70R17 (32.7") - $263

I don't know of anybody selling 17" steel wheels for DI/RRC/D90 except for Lucky8 because I really haven't looked much farther than that. They charge $110 for their 17"x8" steel wheel that fits DI/RRC/D90.

Lets say we already have the tires in the first two sizes. We'd still have to spend $550 on parts alone and maybe an additional $93 on steel wheel lug nuts. Add on shipping @$149 listed on the L8 site($27 per wheel $14 for lugs), we have a total of $792. We still haven't factored in mounting, balancing, valve stems, choice of weights or Equal/Dyna Beads. If you are buying everything you need you're going to be spending close to $900 at best in the end to use tires that you already have. Brand new 265/75R16 tires would run you just under $1000 @ $196 per tire if you buy five. You could knock that down cheaper by picking up a used same size tire to use as a spare if you really wanted to. All things equal, you may save some coin by going with the size you already have. After your next tire purchase; the cost would be maybe about even. After the next, not so much.

You may look cooler than everybody else because you have different sized wheels and tires. I don't really see the point, though. If your tires laying around are already worn or used then this comparison really is pointless. In these smaller sizes, you're really losing sidewall flex 1.2" in the 285 size and 1" in the 265 and 254 sizes and not gaining much in terms of road manners. Does it really make a difference? Probably not because you're not doing the type of wheeling where airing down and using that sidewall flex really matters.

 

[p m]

I figured but he doesn't have balls to say it. Besides the fact I have a 350 the Rover v8 is a turd

... that weighs half of 350 SBC.
(I could understand an idea behind a Buick 350 or a Chevy 5.3)

 

[forcefed44]

17" tires aren't any cheaper than 16" tires, I've checked. The only way its cost effective is if you already have tires which it sounds like he does.

Yes I do have them.. Brand new still with stickers in 245/70/17 and 265/70/17's AT/KO's. As for 17" rims I am importing a couple of sets from UK.. I know that the 18's on the D2 are 65 series if not 60's..

I do alot of on road driving but occasionally shuttle my DH bike up the mountain trail and then back down... So I do see trailwork.. Not much for bogging though..

As for prices for tires.. I buy them wholesale in bulk so Retail is never going to happen..

Chris

 

[mgreenspan]

As for prices for tires.. I buy them wholesale in bulk so Retail is never going to happen..

Chris

Then why even bother getting 17" rims if you can get tires at wholesale prices? Your wholesale prices should be cheaper for 16" tires than the 17" rims.

 

[forcefed44]

Then why even bother getting 17" rims if you can get tires at wholesale prices? Your wholesale prices should be cheaper for 16" tires than the 17" rims.

Because I already have the 17's in storage... That is the point of this whole posting, the fitment issues and what would be the best fitment to fit a lifted D1. Some people have already stated 31's or 32's.. I am not interested in 33's

Not about:

• procuring 16" tires for cheaper prices than 17"
• looking and finding 17" rims
• If it's a bad idea to do install

It's strictly about rolling diameter comparisons from 245/75/16s and 245/70/17's aswell as 265/75/16s and 265/70/17s. Hence the fitment question from the start.

Chris

 

[antichrist]

You buy tires wholesale and you couldn't figure out the comparisons? :ack:

 

[mgreenspan]

It's strictly about rolling diameter comparisons from 245/75/16s and 245/70/17's aswell as 265/75/16s and 265/70/17s. Hence the fitment question from the start.

Chris

Then my post should have helped you. They are nearly the exact same rolling diameter only different by about 1/10th of an inch which I rounded to the same numbers. Spending more money on 17" rims to use the tires you have is not cost effective considering you can probably get 16" tires cheaper due to your wholesale access than the cost of the rims unless your wholesale tire access also gets you some incredible deal on imported 17" rims.

 

[Jake1996D1]

... that weighs half of 350 SBC.
(I could understand an idea behind a Buick 350 or a Chevy 5.3)

What heads are on my engine? Right you don't know.... What's the weight difference in the block MAYBE 100lbs??? Wooow I'm sure I could cut that out in wiring alone..

 

[fishEH]

Yes I do have them.. Brand new still with stickers in 245/70/17 and 265/70/17's AT/KO's. As for 17" rims I am importing a couple of sets from UK.. I know that the 18's on the D2 are 65 series if not 60's..

I do alot of on road driving but occasionally shuttle my DH bike up the mountain trail and then back down... So I do see trailwork.. Not much for bogging though..

As for prices for tires.. I buy them wholesale in bulk so Retail is never going to happen..

Chris

Not to mention the wrong bolt pattern.

 

[forcefed44]

Not to mention the wrong bolt pattern.

What are you on about??


anticrist... I have already been told about you by local parts sellers who are reputable so I really don't need to hear or read about your comments other than answering a post..

mgreenspan... Yes and thank you much, yours was the only posting that made sense.. Jake answered my question on another post, I know where to go with it all.

Chris