1st car for your kid

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So the one shot that didn't make it down the ex's throat or on her tits,ass or face is getting his license this year. So my question is, if your son was about to get his dl what would you buy him as a first vehicle? Note that I have had full custody since the divorce and the x won't be contributing at all. Also, he goes to alot of rover events and he really wants a d2 but I kind of like him so I'm not sure I would do that to him.
 

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Both of my kids had a Classic to drive as their first vehicle. If I had to do it again... it would still be a Classic.
An XJ Cherokee comes a distant second.
 
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I like the old pickup idea. Big and safe, sucks gas so allowance won't take him very far, only fits 3 in the cab and insurance is relatively cheap.
 

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Was going to say 88" but then I remembered what kids do to nice things.

Old Mazda pickups aren't too bad on gas.
 

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I like the old pickup idea. Big and safe, sucks gas so allowance won't take him very far, only fits 3 in the cab and insurance is relatively cheap.

If your sons like his father or should I say the unlucky truck driver that picked the one chick that doesn't swallow, get him a minivan so he can be like you. Fits two in the front and five in the rear.
 

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Minivans and station wagons don't make good first vehicles. Fathers don't like boys picking up their daughters in something they can lay down in :D

Toyota mini truck or civic for reliability.
 

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I can't imagine any of you guys suggesting getting a Civic as a first vehicle.
Maybe it is specific to SoCal car market, but every single one I see on the road under $5k still seems to have whatever's left of factory motor oil in it. They are so damn reliable that most people don't ever take them in for any service. And since the demand among foreign students is so high, the prices are ridiculous.

At least, a 240 wagon is a solid choice. My nephew is one of very few people I know who's managed to get a hefty speeding ticket in one; otherwise, it's stellar. You can buy the whole spare car at a junkyard for $200. Timing belt can be replaced in 45 minutes with most-basic tools on the parking lot.

Addressing az_max concerns: I thought it was the most benefit of a wagon. But a subtle offer to install a big-ass subwoofer, universally accepted, will cut down on that valuable lay down space.
 

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I hope to start an 88" build with my son when he's around 13 or so. He's pretty wild about Land Rovers right now but If he's not into them at 13, I'll probably just get him some crappy beater with some metal around it, like Peter's Volvo or similar.

The 88" Series is just about the perfect truck for a 16 year-old, in my opinion. Not fast enough to get into trouble, too small to hold a bunch of friends, no stereo to distract him, tough enough to withstand the dumb things that we all did at that age, and unique enough for the free thinker that I hope he becomes. Plus, if he helps build it, he'll hopefully have respect for it and take care of it.
 

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My dad gave me his MGB. When he handed me the keys he said "Don't drive it any further than you care to walk home from"

I figure the 88" is the Land Rover version of the MGB...
 

kennith

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The first things I'd get him are a few performance driving courses at racing schools applicable to your climate.

As for the car, it's got to be something at least a little special. I have a couple of reasons for that. The most important is desirability; purely because his friends will want to ride in his car.

That will keep his friend count low, but more importantly keep him out of their cars, which will invariably provide an environment in which he has less control over the evening and is less safe. You can prepare him to handle fuckups (not prevent them, but handle them), but you can't prepare his friends.

In order for that to work, it needs a back seat. It's best if it fits four people comfortably, and five people incredibly uncomfortably. That will wind things down to "double dating" and a just few buddies hitting events, and encourage them to stay that way.

Something nice will also increase his credibility among various groups if he can't do it all on his own. Not too fancy, just a bit better looking than average; a badge the kids respect these days. I'm not sure what that is anymore, but I know most kids aren't as picky at this point.

Behind the rear seat is a big decision. Do you want him fucking in a sleazy hotel or a neighbor's house? Is the potential risk of being caught by a girl's father worth avoiding the risk of being caught by a cop?

Either way he's double-fucked, but in at least one event, the guy might just send him on his way.

Personally, I... No. You don't want to know what the hell I was like. You'd never let him leave the house.:rofl:

The sound system is an incredibly important part of the decision that you should be involved in. This is more important than it's ever been, and the car plays a small part in it.

You want that receiver to have Blutooth and voice activated everything.

Drop the cash, man. He'll just think it's cool, but you'll know his navigation, Internet radio, phone calls, and texts are taking place in the air and on the dash instead of in his hand. He won't have an after-market GPS impeding his visibility or becoming a projectile, either.

As for the rest of the system, let it be his business.

In order for Blutooth to work properly, you'll need a car that's decently quiet; and that means avoiding all the suggestions of old Land Rovers or out of date pickups. This is a new world, with new threats. Everyone needs a smart phone these days to remain relevant without too much effort, and the easiest way to keep it out of their hand is a fancy receiver.

I'd consider safety, as well. A Jeep is not safe. A Volvo is safe, but not necessarily cool unless it's a slightly newer model. The difference can be split somewhere by adjusting model years and vehicle types. The safer, slightly modern vehicles will land lower insurance premiums, which will take the shock out of a higher sticker price.

A great way to have a bit of control over his life without him noticing is very calculated manipulation during the first vehicle purchase. It might cost you a bit more, but you'll know you are probably avoiding a few talks and arguments simply by making certain actions easier decisions, and he'll feel more free.

With the performance training under his belt, he'll be more likely to survive stupidity.

Cheers,

Kennith
 

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damn, wish I my dad thought like you guys. My first car was a 93 Plymouth Sundance hatchback, complete with 88hp 4 banger and slushbox. Couldn't spin a tire in the rain. Stock XJs are damn well fast enough to get into trouble in, especially the 91-96 5 spds.
 

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My son's first (and still current) car is an '05 Range Rover.
My daughter's first (and still current) car is a '13 Jeep Patriot.

Jeeps not safe?
Compared to what?
Is standing on the side of an interstate, cars flying by at 70mph a foot away, waiting for a tow truck & scratching your head because the piece of shit old-ass land rover your dad thinks is cool broke down again safe?

The RR is a tank. Decent sound system, no bluetooth capability because that technology is just now arriving in the British Isles. Comfortable for up to 5 people including driver. Can carry some stuff in addition to people.
Remarkably fast considering it weighs 48,000,000 pounds.

The Patriot is small, not too fast, all-wheel drive for the snow, comfortable for 4, squeeze in 5, carry just a little bit of stuff. Decent sound (including sat. radio), no bluetooth, but an aux connector she uses for phone that allows hands-free.

Both vehicles have navigation.
Both drivers have AAA cards.
Both drivers have practiced in a snow-covered parking lot in the vehicles they actually drive.

The first day my wife & I watched each of them back out of the garage and wave as they drove down the street was emotional for us.
 

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Come to think of it Kennith, do you even have kids?

What the fuck are you talking about? Jeeps unsafe? Volvos safe but uncool unless a newer model? I think you have no clue whatsoever.
And you not only don't want Bluetooth receiver, you don't want anything, even a cell phone in the pocket of your kid when he/she is driving in his/her first few months.
 

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Volvo 240 is a good choice. However, Brett lives in the NE which translates to rust, which means no Volvo 240.
Not necessarily. It would be a killer trip - to go to the Southwest, buy a rust-free, clean car, and drive it back home.
Still, an old Volvo is for those who dig it. My son needed a car in Berkeley, and we bought one on a spot in San Diego for $900. It was by far and large simplest and easiest car to maintain; and we cracked up when we were turning from 24 to 13 on the way to the campus and five other Volvos took the same turn.