2001 P38 Holland and Holland #170 of 200, 171,953 miles (Off Market)

StangGT5

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These are super cool. I imagine one would have a similar problem to Rhino owners in finding specific wood parts though.

I had a similar issue with a P38's valve block. The previous owner said they had the block resealed but the issue remained. It would even exhaust while driving and throw fault codes. I replaced it with a known good unit and it went away. I want to say there is a control board made onto the valve block and I suspected that went bad...but it's been a few years.
 

bri

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Folks, a comparable vehicle just went for 24,550 on BAT with at least 4 active bidders in the last few minutes. Make me an offer and flip it, or if you are young keep it for a decade and triple your investment just please drive it a bit.
 

StangGT5

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The truck that just sold on BaT was in comparable shape. It was not missing wood though and had fewer miles. I have sold classic SUVs on BaT and Doug's site. Mileage and aesthetics matter more than anything else in my experience. It is also an exponential drop off with large cliffs at 100K, 120K and so on. It works the same under 100K but in reverse.

All that said, I used to horde P38s and I'd say your asking price is right on target given the rarity and condition of the truck. If you put some effort into the presentation, BaT may accept it as a no reserve listing and you'll probably end up close to your asking price. They can very picky, but they like rare vehicles and honest descriptions.
 

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One word of caution on BaT. Don't allow them to end your auction at 'off' hours. Fridays before long weekend, Sunday evenings, etc, etc.
 

bri

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The truck that just sold on BaT was in comparable shape. It was not missing wood though and had fewer miles. I have sold classic SUVs on BaT and Doug's site. Mileage and aesthetics matter more than anything else in my experience. It is also an exponential drop off with large cliffs at 100K, 120K and so on. It works the same under 100K but in reverse.

All that said, I used to horde P38s and I'd say your asking price is right on target given the rarity and condition of the truck. If you put some effort into the presentation, BaT may accept it as a no reserve listing and you'll probably end up close to your asking price. They can very picky, but they like rare vehicles and honest descriptions.
Fewer miles on the OD for sure and it is a tough comparison. This engine was replaced before 117k with a 44k engine, so really engine miles are comparable. Unfortunately the only proof I have is a perfectly clean, undetailed engine bay. On the wood, for a really good wood worker, easy fix.

I will admit though it was more complete and in better shape. But 15k will get you a long ways on restoring this to equal or near equal condition.

At any rate, if BaT does not take it, it will likely get donated. Since no enthusiasts from dweb,rr.net,expo have shown any interest, it is off market.

If admin see this and wish to delete the thread, it would not bother me at all.
 
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bri

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What just happened here? I was going to send this link to a guy who might have wanted it.

What happened is that not a single interested buyer was generated from DiscoWebt, so I pulled all the pictures and information. If I knew how to delete the entire thread, I would.

I still have it and no pending offers. clear title. Have him contact me directly, my mobile number is still above. If he texts me his name and email I will send all of the information to him directly.
 
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discostew

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What happened is that not a single interested buyer was generated from DiscoWebt, so I pulled all the pictures and information. If I knew how to delete the entire thread, I would.

I still have it and no pending offers. clear title. Have him contact me directly, my mobile number is still above. If he texts me his name and email I will send all of the information to him directly.
LP Range Rovers don’t have a lot of fans. I think the technology scares people away. Under rated in my opinion. Special edition trucks will always be desirable and I think your price is good. I’m not in the market for a truck right now, but if I was I would be all over this thing. I was going to tell a friend who worked for Rover for a long time. Now he’s got a real job so maybe he’s in the market. There’s a couple people I was going to tell about it.
Don’t give up, someone is going to want that truck.
 

bri

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LP Range Rovers don’t have a lot of fans. I think the technology scares people away. Under rated in my opinion. Special edition trucks will always be desirable and I think your price is good. I’m not in the market for a truck right now, but if I was I would be all over this thing. I was going to tell a friend who worked for Rover for a long time. Now he’s got a real job so maybe he’s in the market. There’s a couple people I was going to tell about it.
Don’t give up, someone is going to want that truck.
This P38 is FAR more reliable than all 3 D1 and all 3 RRC that I have owned.
 

pinkytoe69

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This P38 is FAR more reliable than all 3 D1 and all 3 RRC that I have owned.

This is an intriguing statement.

I remember a post here stating a 98 D1 is arguably one of the most reliable Land Rovers ever made.

Is p38 hate more anecdotal than real?
 

discostew

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This is an intriguing statement.

I remember a post here stating a 98 D1 is arguably one of the most reliable Land Rovers ever made.

Is p38 hate more anecdotal than real?
The P38 Range Rover started out being hated by all the purists. I think it’s like what the purists are going thru now with the new Defender. They stop making the old standard and offer up something different.
I think the older GEMS P38 might be as dependable as a ‘98 Discovery.
 

discostew

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It’s kind of overblown. Sometimes that thing is why you have no tail lights. There’s a place in England that still fixes them.
It’s kind of a strange bird when you start looking for dead batteries and stuff like that. Like if the fuel flap button gets stuck down or shorted it will kill the battery. Not because current is flowing thru that switch, because that’s a wake up signal and the truck won’t go to sleep.
I like P38s a lot. I was new at Land Rover and didn’t give a shit about the Classic.
 
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