2009 Nobel Peace Prize

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If you think he is so great, surely you kow enugh about him to talk intellegently.... Or are you the "Other 50%"


Dont feel bad. Your fellow countrymen are equally hypnotized by the Chocolatte Jesus.
 

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Ok, one very last thing, from ze german perspective:
whatever your political position is, please don't fool around with these Hitler / nazi comparisons. Because it simply devaluates / plays down the extend of horror and cruelty the nazis have brought to the world. Obama might raise your taxes (don't know if he will), but he will not kill 6 million jews or raid canada. Therefor don't say he is the new Hitler.
 

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Jenzz said:
Peter, maybe you're right, though I wonder which media then you get your knowledge from.
Anyway, just to be clear about this: my 50/50 rule does not refer to any election results. What I was trying to say was,
50% of germans are idiots, 50% are decent people.
50% of americans are idiots, 50% are decent people.
continue as you like with norwegians, Iraqis, russians, catholics, Land Rover Owners, republicans, whatever. There are good, and there are bad.
And now continue to beat your heads, thank you for reading.
Well first I am from Chicago & have seen first hand how currupt BHO & his pals are.
Second I don't go spouting about Petra, Horst or the CDU.
No head beating here! just sayn.

I have to agree with Jens BHO ain't killing people.
If there was no Kiser I would not be.
 
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Jenzz said:
Ok, one very last thing, from ze german perspective:
whatever your political position is, please don't fool around with these Hitler / nazi comparisons. Because it simply devaluates / plays down the extend of horror and cruelty the nazis have brought to the world. Obama might raise your taxes (don't know if he will), but he will not kill 6 million jews or raid canada. Therefor don't say he is the new Hitler.

You guys voted him in power.... Did he say he was gonna kill Jews when he was running?
 

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While the comparison to Hitler is wrong, we should learn from previous political and media awards. Awards should be based on years/decades of accomplishments, not empathy and feelings.

A good example of "What could go wrong?" would be:

Schicklgruber was Time's Man of the Year​

I found wikipedia's entry on the Nobel Peace Prize interesting:


.....The latest controversy is Obama's receipt of the Nobel Peace Prize. He invited genocidal, dictatorial madmen onto US soil to rant about the evil American and Israeli satans. He increased the national debt three times faster than even Bush did, and there's been absolutely nothing redeeming to show for it. He's hired a bunch of racists, Marxists, and all-around loons to his cabinet. He's pushed for unparalleled 1984-esque measures that practically mirror those used by the Soviets and the Nazis to ensure loyalty and order. And he's traveled the earth just to apologize to the rest of the world for America being so prosperous and free. This has given the public a sense that the award has become meaningless. Al Gore's prize, in addition to this, have demonstrated that the Nobel Peace Prize is now awarded to an individual who pushes a Marxist agenda the hardest.​


Wikipedia is known to lean Left so the above is interesting.
 

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landrovered said:

I think it's cool, I mean, talk about HOPE! If Obama can earn the Nobel in just the first 10 days of his presidency, think of all he can accomplish in the next four years!





(....yes, the nominations had to be turned in to the Nobel committee no later than 10 days after he had been in office... :smilelol: )


In other words, even you have to admit, this is a joke.
 

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Yes, and... can you tell me what he did to earn it?

Should be pretty easy, since it was only the first 10 days -- you could probably go back and review those 10 days in the next half hour or so and then get back to me.
 

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I don't agree. The award is a global acknowledgement of the change in tone of the US' stance on foreign policy, nuclear policy, the end of the Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive regime change.
Scott, for God's sake, WHAT CHANGE IN TONE?????
NOTHING, note a single thing changed in the U.S. tone. NONE.
 

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The decision was not made until recently in spite of the cut off for nomination. So it is incorrect to assume that only the first ten days were the sole basis for the selection.

You are pissed, I accept that but this is a stupid line of arguement.
 
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Barack Obama entered the Oval Office to find a note marked “44” written by his predecessor, George W. Bush. He then spent the day planning to push his $800 billion stimulus package in the house and senate. His first phone calls as president were made to leaders in the Arab world. He also placed limits on lobbyists and froze the salaries of White House employees making more than $100,000 a year as a gesture to stop frivolous spending in Washington.


Day Two: January 22

HIs second day was spent marking a strong departure from many of President Bush’s policies. President Obama signed an executive order stating that the prison at Guantanamo Bay would be closed within the year. He also ordered the closings of secret CIA “ghost prisons” and the cessation of advanced interrogation techniques. In addition, George Mitchell was assigned special Middle East envoy to help tackle the strife in Gaza.


Day Three: January 23

President Obama reversed a policy that restricted federal aid to be delivered to organisations that promote or provide abortions overseas. George Bush reversed Clinton’s similar policy 8 years prior. The president nominated former defence lobbyist William Lynn as Deputy Secretary of Defense as unmanned American drones killed 18 in a series of missile attacks on the Pakistani side of the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.


Day Four: January 24

On the first Saturday of his presidency, President Obama delivered his first radio address. In keeping with the internet strategy used during his campaign, the address was posted as an online video. He stressed the importance of his stimulus bill and the urgency at which it needed to be passed


Day Five: January 25

While Republicans voiced their opposition to his stimulus plan, the president spent the day with his family.


Day Six: January 26

President Obama allowed states like California to decide their own emissions and fuel efficiency standards. The President also gave his first television interview as president with Dubai-based al-Aribiya. He used the interview to stress to the Muslim world his empathy and diplomatic intentions.


Day Seven: January 27

President Obama met with high-ranking republicans to discuss his $800b bail-out package. They viewed it with extreme scepticism.


Day Eight: January 28

The President had his first visit to the Pentagon to speak with Defense Secretary Robert Gates about US planning in Iraq and Afghanistan. Later, he delivered another speech detailing the urgency at which the economy needs be handled-specifically through his stimulus bill. President Obama invited ten senators (five democrats, five republicans) and twelve congressmen (six democrats, six republicans) to a cocktail party to discuss the stimulus plan.


Day Nine: January 29

The president and his wife began the day by attending a class presentation at daughter Sasha’s school. He then approved an equal-pay legislation dubbed “Ledbetter’s Law.” It was the first bill he signed into law. President Bush had previously opposed the legislation. His stimulus bill passed through the house without a single republican vote.


Day Ten: January 30

At the ten day mark, President Obama created a middle class working families task force to be headed by Vice President Joe Biden. He also signed a series of pro-union executive orders. The President received help from union workers during the campaign and subsequent election, and he looked to reverse President Bush’s policies that were perceived by some as anti-union.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...arackobama/4401025/Obamas-first-10-days.html#
 

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This I find very fitting (although from a source I haven't heard of before):

From NY Times:
"Sergey Karaganov, a prominent political commentator, told RIA Novosti, the state news agency, that the prize was a down payment on the future. “First of all, they gave it because they pin great hopes on him,” Mr. Karaganov said. “Secondly, because he tried to fundamentally change the philosophy of American foreign policy, though these are only promises. And third, because he gave Europeans — who, as I understand, define the policy of the Nobel committee — a chance to still not do anything and hide behind America’s back, holding out their hopes for Obama.”
"
 

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People. It?s not our award. They can give it to whomever they want. Do you really think you?re better qualified to determine who should and who should not get it? Be glad that it went to an American.
Who?s side are you on anyway? The election is LONG over. Man up or shut up.
 

MarkP

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hamsquatch said:
.... Do you really think you’re better qualified to determine who should and who should not get it? ...


Based on the Nobel award committee's track record I think Discoweb could do a MUCH better job.